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Demoninilisation is the first heresy by definition.As i study God's Word, i can't help but notice that the early church did everything together as one, and where told to be likeminded.
Philippians 2:2 KJV — Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.
Acts 2:44,46
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things in common; 46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart.
Acts 15:25 KJV — It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
Romans 15:5 KJV — Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
Acts 4:32
And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of these things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things in common.
We are pretty much commanded to be of the same mind. Here is what Apostle Paul wrote on the matter.
1 Corithians 1:10-13
10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
Is Christ divided?
Mark 3:24-25
24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
The only purpose for these different denominations, to me, is confusion, and scriptures state:
1 Corinthians 14:33 KJV — For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
I personally long for the way the church operated in the Book of the Acts. The only way that is possible is for everyone to go back to the source, that is the Word of God. Remember:
2 Timothy 3:16 KJV — All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Isaiah 48:17 KJV — Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.
With Love, In Christ
You can pick the right church if you know what to look for. There are only 3 possibilities in salvation. 1) God alone saves sinners = salvation by grace. 2) God and sinners work together to save sinners = salvation by grace and works. and 3) sinners save themselves = salvation by works. Depending on your understanding of salvation, it's easy to narrow the field to one search area.
A love for the word of God is precisely what created this mess of tens of thousands of denominations.
The fact is that Our Lord founded one visible Church and He prayed that it would always be unified in actual fact rather than the horrible situation we have to deal with today. A huge percentage of Christians thumb their noses at His prayer every single day.
No. Not a love of the word of God. That is not a wrong love. That is a good and proper love. A love we as Catholics endorse. So much so that you can gain an indulgence just for reading the Bible.
But an expectation that the Bible alone was the answer key for everything doctrinal and liturgical and moral, now that is a flawed understanding. The Bible never was supposed to be that in the first place. So the cure to the ailment of so many contradictory denominations isn't to double down on Bible reading as if therein was the cure. It is to read the Bible in keeping with the Tradition and in keeping with the Community of faith called the Church. It's the three legged stool. Not the one legged stool of Bible alone.
We love the Bible within the environment it was written in and written for, the Church which follows Tradition and speaks with Authority. Within that more Bible is better. Outside of that more Bible means more division.
This will offend some people. Not my intent to offend. Yet there is a way out of the mess, which is to look to the Fathers, to the bishops, and to the Bible, all at the same time. We Catholics should have been extinct many times over, but it does work as we are still here.
Christ does not wish for us to be divided.As i study God's Word, i can't help but notice that the early church did everything together as one, and where told to be likeminded.
Philippians 2:2 KJV — Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.
Acts 2:44,46
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things in common; 46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart.
Acts 15:25 KJV — It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
Romans 15:5 KJV — Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
Acts 4:32
And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of these things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things in common.
We are pretty much commanded to be of the same mind. Here is what Apostle Paul wrote on the matter.
1 Corithians 1:10-13
10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
Is Christ divided?
Mark 3:24-25
24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
The only purpose for these different denominations, to me, is confusion, and scriptures state:
1 Corinthians 14:33 KJV — For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
I personally long for the way the church operated in the Book of the Acts. The only way that is possible is for everyone to go back to the source, that is the Word of God. Remember:
2 Timothy 3:16 KJV — All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Isaiah 48:17 KJV — Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.
With Love, In Christ
Actually, no. There were dozens and dozens of branches or sects of Christians in the first century. It is just that Scripture doesn't record all of their doings, so we think in terms of the assemblies, etc. that are recorded in the New Testament. For several hundred years, the goal was to pull these together and stay away from the ones that were irreconcilable or taught something too far from the norm.As i study God's Word, i can't help but notice that the early church did everything together as one, and where told to be likeminded.
Actually, no. There were dozens and dozens of branches or sects of Christians in the first century. It is just that Scripture doesn't record all of their doings, so we think in terms of the assemblies, etc. that are recorded in the New Testament. For several hundred years, the goal was to pull these together and stay away from the ones that were irreconcilable or taught something too far from the norm.
A love for the word of God is precisely what created this mess of tens of thousands of denominations.
I sense most Christians feel the same way you do. Good thing the Church does not dwell in denominations, it resides in the true believer who hears His voice. Those sheep make up the Kingdom of God and walk towards the narrow gate where they will one day meet their King. For now, while we are in our flesh, we are commanded to love and forgive one another regardless of Spiritual maturity. After all ,it is the mature Christian who walks with the Holy Spirit daily spreading the Good News in truth and conviction growing the true Church for the Kingdom of God.
Blessings
The entire book of Acts has one main theme "The Jews as a nation have rejected their Messiah".
The early "church" in Acts 1-4 only had Jews. It is not supposed to be a model of what the current church comprising mostly of Gentiles, are to be.
Yeah, but not really though.Wrong. The "New Testament" needs to be interpreted by the Light of the "Old Testament" and not according to man's tradition, aka, science...schizo...schism...
Actually, no. There were dozens and dozens of branches or sects of Christians in the first century. It is just that Scripture doesn't record all of their doings, so we think in terms of the assemblies, etc. that are recorded in the New Testament. For several hundred years, the goal was to pull these together and stay away from the ones that were irreconcilable or taught something too far from the norm.
Yeah, but not really though.
The Church provides the authoritative teachings and she should be listened to and submitted to.
I wasn't commenting on which of the many varieties of Christianity in the first century was the right one, which correctly understood the Gospel, or any of that...just that there were many of them.Scriptures state:
1 John 2:19 KJV — They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
It was and will always be only one sheepfold:
John 10:16 KJV — And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
I wasn't commenting on which of the many varieties of Christianity in the first century was the right one, which correctly understood the Gospel, or any of that...just that there were many of them.
Oh boy.This is exactly why you do not understand that I have said just that...you separate "The Church" from Torah. Are you aware that Moses was with the Church in the wilderness (Deuteronomy 10:4) Strong's Hebrew: 6951. קָהָל (qahal) -- assembly, convocation, congregation? Any "church" that is not rooted in Torah...is not His Qahal.
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