Smoking (Pot, not Cigarettes)

[DeathMagus]

What do you think of people who smoke pot? Do you think anything less of them than of those who don't? Could you ever see yourself smoking pot (assuming it was legal)? Why or why not?

Do you think it is unethical to smoke pot?

 

[Steezie]

I personally cant PHYSICALLY smoke anthing, asthma with a smoke trigger means I'd better know how to intubate someone and have an O2 tank handy if I want to light up.

I tried pot back when I was younger, I cant honestly say it was that interesting.

If someone wants to smoke it, I don't really care that much as long as they aren't under the influence when they're at work or driving and they keep it out of my face.

As far as it being legal, I dont really support it simply because there isnt enough information to support it's safety. I'd very much like to see a full-course study done on the effects, short and long term. If that result turns out to be benign, then I'd be more willing to support legalization. As it stands, I've seen too much firsthand to support it being legal at this stage.

 

[jarrettcpr]

Hey, DeathMagus, there is a thread in the Theology Section (Christian Only) called 'Cannabis'.

I dunno, if you're a Christian of not, but you can still at least go over and view the posts if you like.

 

[DeathMagus]

Hey, DeathMagus, there is a thread in the Theology Section (Christian Only) called 'Cannabis'.

I dunno, if you're a Christian of not, but you can still at least go over and view the posts if you like.

Thanks (of course, one of the reasons I made this thread was so we could have a "Smoking (Pot, not Cigarettes)" thread as well as a "Smoking (Cigarettes, not Pot)" thread.)

 

[jarrettcpr]

Thanks (of course, one of the reasons I made this thread was so we could have a "Smoking (Pot, not Cigarettes)" thread as well as a "Smoking (Cigarettes, not Pot)" thread.)

LOL

The thread so far is 12 pages(120 posts)

To answer the question here. I believe it should be legalized, and definitely decriminalized. It's not necessarily a hardcore drug, and IMO too many people are crowding the prisons, that belong to the true criminals (thieves, murderers, rapists, kidnappers, violent offenders, and etc).

At the same time people should know the risks and will have to decide if and when should I use this drug responsibly. Last thing we need is a bunch of people walking around stoned, eating Big-Macs, and a sack full of krispy kreme donuts.

Oh Wait, we already do that.

 

[PassionFruit]

I can't stand the smell of it, in all honestly. But I don't have any real objections against smoking pot. I have friends who are pot heads so I don't think less of people who smoke it. And I wouldn't say it was unethical.

 

[DeathMagus]

As far as it being legal, I dont really support it simply because there isnt enough information to support it's safety. I'd very much like to see a full-course study done on the effects, short and long term. If that result turns out to be benign, then I'd be more willing to support legalization. As it stands, I've seen too much firsthand to support it being legal at this stage.

As a general rule, shouldn't we support the legalization of all things unless we have reason to make them illegal?

 

[Steezie]

As a general rule, shouldn't we support the legalization of all things unless we have reason to make them illegal?

Not necessarily. With marijuana there is a suspicion of harm and therefore making it illegal is a precautionary measure.

 

[Axioma]

Not necessarily. With marijuana there is a suspicion of harm and therefore making it illegal is a precautionary measure.

Granted, but the suspicion of harm is less than the suspicion of harm of alcohol and tobacco, and therefore making it illegal is frankly hypocritical.

 

[bigbadwilf]

To answer the question here. I believe it should be legalized, and definitely decriminalized. It's not necessarily a hardcore drug, and IMO too many people are crowding the prisons, that belong to the true criminals (thieves, murderers, rapists, kidnappers, violent offenders, and etc).

Surely that should re-legalized?

After all, it was legal in the US until 1937 wasn't it?
and in the UK until 1928?

 

[Paul1965]

I'm an ex-pot head. I believe pot alters the mind and our thinking. I also believe God wants us to avoid mind altering drugs, so we can think clearly about reality! Not sure how I feel about the legality of marijuana!

 

[Steezie]

Granted, but the suspicion of harm is less than the suspicion of harm of alcohol and tobacco, and therefore making it illegal is frankly hypocritical.

We dont actually know that for sure, which is one of the reasons I support a huge research effort to find that out.

 

[morningstar2651]

What do you think of people who smoke pot?

They smell bad because it smells bad.

Do you think anything less of them than of those who don't?

Not really. I have a few friends that smoke it. It isn't really a defining characteristic of them.

Could you ever see yourself smoking pot (assuming it was legal)? Why or why not?

Nope. I can't stand the smell.

Do you think it is unethical to smoke pot?

It isn't inherently unethical. It's unethical to break the law. I support the legalization of pot.

 

[SiderealExalt]

or more accurately folks, the de criminalization of it. Which I also support. The stuff is not for me. Alcohol is much much worse.

 

[Joachim]

What do you think of people who smoke pot? Do you think anything less of them than of those who don't? Could you ever see yourself smoking pot (assuming it was legal)? Why or why not?

Do you think it is unethical to smoke pot?

1. I really don't feel any different for them. It is simply a recreational activity for them and despite what the anti-drug ads tell you it is not a gateway and it has not destroyed their lives

2. No


3. If it were legal it would be a possibility.

4. Because all signs suggest that it heightens creativity and personal insight.

5. No

 

[Paul1965]

Do any of you think smoking pot is a sin? Why or why not?

 

[visionary]

kaneh-bos'm -- reed or cane like aromatic plants (mistranslated in the Greek Septuagent to calamus which is a marsh plant of little value -- calamus was carried over in mistranslation into the King James version of the Bible)

kaneh is the root word from which we get the English word cane (sugar cane etc.)

bos'm is the plural of the word spice or aromatic. in Hebrew the plural is supplied by the sound of "m" so the singular is bos (or bis).

kaneh-bos or kaneh-bis is singular...doesn't take a lot to hear cannibis.

Exodus 30:23 is where you will find it. in the description of the annointing oil used in the tabernacle.

 

[visionary]

The first solid evidence of the Hebrew use of cannabis was established in 1936 by Sula Benet, a little known Polish etymologist from the Institute of Anthropological Sciences in Warsaw

The word cannabis was generally thought to be of Scythian origin, but Benet showed that it has a much earlier origin in Semitic languages like Hebrew, and that it appears several times throughout the Old Testament. Benet explained that "in the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament there are references to hemp, both as incense, which was an integral part of religious celebration, and as an intoxicant ."

Benet demonstrated that the word for cannabis is kaneh-bosm, also rendered in traditional Hebrew as kaneh or kannabus. The root kan in this construction means "reed" or "hemp", while bosm means "aromatic". This word appears five times in the Old Testament; in the books of Exodus, the Song of Songs, Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel.

The word kaneh-bosm has been mistranslated as calamus, a common marsh plant with little monetary value that does not have the qualities or value ascribed to kaneh-bosm. The error occurred in the oldest Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible, the Septuagint in the third century BC, and was repeated in the many translations that followed ..

THEN THE LORD SAID TO MOSES, "TAKE THE FOLLOWING FINE SPICES: 500 SHEKELS OF LIQUID MYRRH, HALF AS MUCH OF FRAGRANT CINNAMON, 250 SHEKELS OF KANNABOSM, 500 SHEKELS OF CASSIA - ALL ACCORDING TO THE SANCTUARY SHEKEL - AND A HIND OF OLIVE OIL. MAKE THESE INTO MAKE THESE INTO A SACRED ANNOITING OIL, A FRAGRANT BLEND, THE WORK OF A PERFUMER. IT WILL BE THE SACRED ANNOITING OIL.

THEN USE IT TO ANOINT THE TENT OF THE MEETING, THE ARK OF THE TESTIMONY, THE TABLE AND ALL ITS ARTICLES, THE LAMPSTAND AND ITS ACCESSORIES, THE ALTAR OF INCENSE, THE ALTAR OF BURNT OFFERING AND ALL ITS UTENSILS, AND THE BASIN WITH ITS STAND. YOU SHALL CONSECRATE THEM SO THEY WILL BE MOST HOLY, AND WHATEVER TOUCHES THEM WILL BE HOLY.

ANOINT AARON AND HIS SONS AND CONSECRATE THEM SO THEY MAY SERVE ME AS PREISTS. SAY TO THE ISRAELITES, "THIS IS TO BE MY SACRED ANOINTING OIL FOR THE GENERATIONS TO COME. DO NOT POUR IT ON MEN'S BODIES AND DO NOT MAKE ANY OIL WITH THE SAME FORMULA. IT IS SACRED, AND YOU ARE TO CONSIDER IT SACRED. WHOEVER MAKES PERFUME LIKE IT AND WHOEVER PUTS IT ON ANYONE OTHER THAN A PREIST MUST BE CUT OFF FROM HIS PEOPLE."

EXODUS 30:22-33

 

[FlamingFemme]

We dont actually know that for sure, which is one of the reasons I support a huge research effort to find that out.

Yes we DO know that for sure: Nearly 500,000 people die every year from tobacco and alcohol use.
Cannabis has been cultivated and used by humans for tens of thousands of years. Total deaths from simple use of cannabis? Zero.
Source

 

[Paul1965]

Yes we DO know that for sure: Nearly 500,000 people die every year from tobacco and alcohol use.
Cannabis has been cultivated and used by humans for tens of thousands of years. Total deaths from simple use of cannabis? Zero.
Source

I don't think you can be so sure of zero deaths attributed to cannabis. Regardless of the physical deaths, the spiritual deaths are more significant. Smoking pot gives a person a distorted view of reality. Smoking pot is an escape mechanism from reality. As is alcohol. Initially, a person may smoke pot or drink alcohol for the pleasurable feeling. With prolonged and habitual use, not only is the pleasurable feeling obtained, but a feeling of ease from frustrations and problems is attained. I was a pot junkie for 15 years. After coming to Christ, I gave it up. I can attest that I not only feel better having a clear mind, but I am able to face problem rather than just smoke a joint. Now, I'm sure marijuana affects people in different ways. This is just my experience and opinion on the matter!