Skirts for men??

[huck77]

DT 22:5
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so [are] abomination unto the LORD thy God.

By your argument women should not allowed to wear pants. Pants as we know them have only been around for about 450 years. At the time of there creation they were only intended for men (Made by man for a man.) Women didn’t get the right to wear pants until after WWII. They wore pants during WWII to work in factories for safety reasons. After WWII women were expected to return to wearing skirts and dresses but didn’t want to and forced clothing manufacturers to make pants for women.

But what makes a piece of clothing for a specific gender?

FYI - Jesus didn’t wear pants. He died for us 1500 before they were created. Men didn’t wear bifurcated garments for a large percentage of human history.

I just don’t see how it is sinful to wear a garment that is similar to what they were wearing in the day that DT 22:5 was writen.

DT 22:5 "I do NOT agree with ANYTHING that society tell me is "ok" to do. I feel and have learned in the past that if you have any questions about anything, the answer will always do the oposite of todays sociteies ideas/morals(or acually lack there of)

So i take it you don't wear pants because society tells you it ok to do so. The reason men wear pants in the western Hemisphere is because society told us about 500 years ago the men were to wear pants and not to wear unbifurcated garments.

 

[Tuffguy]

I would totally wear a kilt on halloween. That would be pretty funny i think. Awesome, thanks for the idea.

 

[rainbowprism]

It would take a very very confident man to wear "man skirt". I think kilts are sexy though...

 

[fishstix]

DT 22:5 "A woman shall not wear man’s clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman’s clothing; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD your God.

I do NOT agree with ANYTHING that society tell me is "ok" to do. I feel and have learned in the past that if you have any questions about anything, the answer will always do the oposite of todays sociteies ideas/morals(or acually lack there of)

Peace and I still will NEVER agree with it.

But it is and always has been society that tells us whether a particular garment is men's clothing or women's clothing or unisex clothing. It is not the Bible but segments of society that associates dresses with women and pants with men. The Bible doesn't specify precisely what qualifies as men's clothing or women's clothing. Garments change with both time and location. We don't wear the same clothing as was worn in Biblical times or in Biblical places. And what would you do with something like a t-shirt? Or an academic gown? I think the message in the verse you quoted is that men shouldn't masquerade as women and vice versa, not that a particular garment has to forever remain tied to one gender or the other across all times and cultures.

 

[StevenS]

My theological study led me to an understanding that Deut 22:5 was written at a time when some men made themselves look like women to avoid going to war and some women made themselves look like men so that could go. In that context the verse has a completely different meaning from the restrictive code that says in 21st century "Western" society only women wear skirts so men can never reclaim their right to wear them.

Men quickly learn how to sit, and not to sit; and skirts don't put unnecessary pressure on the man's anatomy - unlike trousers.

 

[JPPT1974]

The highlanders of Scotland wore kilts and skirts.

 

[Ginsu]

Oh yeah! I totally forgot... I was going to buy a kilt a few months ago, but in time it escaped my mind (just like school)... thanks for reminding me people!

 

[huck77]

My theological study led me to an understanding that Deut 22:5 was written at a time when some men made themselves look like women to avoid going to war and some women made themselves look like men so that could go.

This is what i alway understood it to be. Think klinger from M*A*S*H* just wearing womens clothes to get out of the army. I don't think Duet 22:5 was meant to stop guys from wearing an unbifurcated garment as long as it is a man's unbifurcated garment.

 

[fishstix]

This is what i alway understood it to be. Think klinger from M*A*S*H* just wearing womens clothes to get out of the army. I don't think Duet 22:5 was meant to stop guys from wearing an unbifurcated garment as long as it is a man's unbifurcated garment.

Especially considering that there probably was no such thing as pants then anyway...

 

[TheTempleTeam]

As A Scot, I feel it's VERY important to let you know that a kilt is not a skirt. Utilikilts or such like are not kilts, a kilt is a traditional garment. We've been wearing kilts for over a thousand years.

 

[rainbowprism]

As A Scot, I feel it's VERY important to let you know that a kilt is not a skirt. Utilikilts or such like are not kilts, a kilt is a traditional garment. We've been wearing kilts for over a thousand years.

And they're hot!

 

[TheTempleTeam]

I'll be getting married in a kilt

 

[rainbowprism]

(wants to marry a man in a kilt)

 

[sweetlambofgod]

I'm scottish too!

 

[TheTempleTeam]

Cool Why the Canadian flag?

 

[garryk6]

HI, this is my first post,
I lived in Scotland with the military for 2 years, and since I am of sScotish decent, I bought and wore a kilt while there. I wore it every sunday to church and whenever else I could, and if I wore it wrong one of the little old ladys walking down the street or at church would always make it a point to correct me. Since returning to the states, I have wore it several times a month, and about a 4 years ago I got a "Utilikilt" for a more casual kilt. I have enjoyed wearing it as well, and I am not mistaken for a woman, as I am 6'4" and crew cut.
I have wore my kilt to grade schools and Jr highs to talk to kids about Scotland and of kilts, and I have wore my utilikit to the beach as it is definitely more comfortable. I still wear my kilt to church several times a month, and have never recieved any bad comments. I have even wore it cross country through the airports, and did recieve some looks, but all the comments were positive.
I have been a Christian for 32 years, and believe that if we men are not trying to portray ourselves as women, then the piece of clothing we wear should not make a difference wether it is a pair of jeans, a kilt or a men's skirt. I know that the hardline consevatives may not agree with me, but I will agree to disagree as I know some people will never change their minds.
Take care all, and God Bless, Garry

 

[JPPT1974]

I go into this store for books and there's the owner always proud of his Scottish heritage but is an American wears skirts and isn't ashamed at all by no means.

 

[Psalms34]

it's a kilt! Get over it lol
Being an American Anglo-saxon/Celt I don't see any prob with it, but then again some of my ancestors ran into battle naked.
Okay lets let this thread sink even deeper.... Why did Jesus run around in a dress??
Kilt is to skirt as robe is to dress?
It's just a kilt

Anyway, after reading a few of these posts... I'm tempted to put one on for a date! But make sure you pick me up cuz I ride a motorcycle

 

[Diane_Windsor]

Even though some of them have kilt in the name I know I saw one also on a tv show on Tech TV and my sister and I thought it was a skirt. So again my question is what do you all think of men wearing skirt like garments that are made for men for no reason other than preference (not wearing because of cultural reasons or because of heratige)?

There's no harm for a man to wear a skirt IMO. I'm betting that when women started to wear trousers that they were breaking a social taboo too. Who knows in 50 years we might see the majority of men wear skirts like we see a majority of women wear trousers today.

Now if they start wearing stiletto heels, there might be a problemo lol

Diane

 

[tiuliucci]

Heels were worn by both men and women from their creation date in the 1400s through the 1800s. American cowboy boots and Cuban boots still have high heels.

Men will be wearing stilleto heels in the near future.

In fact, almost every piece of clothing worn exclusively by women today was worn by men. Skirts and tights were first worn by the Roman military. Makeup and heels were both unisex from their creation.

Clothing and makeup do not have gender. Humans assign gender where this is none.

Take care,
Troy
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