Skepticism

[MaxP]

Where people say we cannot trust anything we can experience from our senses, it could be totally fake.

This is often defended by saying that our senses are just electric impulses, nerves, etc., and can be simulated. I was thinking about it today(and doi, took me long enough), but would not accepting that this is true be trusting that which we have investigated with our senses? So, using that argument, proving the premise involves violating the premise. And the argument that we could just not exist is best refuted by "I think, therefore I am."
So, any really good, founded arguments for skepticism, sensory or just overall?

 

[b&wpac4]

Where people say we cannot trust anything we can experience from our senses, it could be totally fake.

This is often defended by saying that our senses are just electric impulses, nerves, etc., and can be simulated. I was thinking about it today(and doi, took me long enough), but would not accepting that this is true be trusting that which we have investigated with our senses? So, using that argument, proving the premise involves violating the premise. And the argument that we could just not exist is best refuted by "I think, therefore I am."
So, any really good, founded arguments for skepticism, sensory or just overall?

Well, I can't prove that I'm not really in an insane asylum and all that I experience and everything I do are just delusions in my ill mind. I posed this to other people, and none of us have ever been able to come up with a way to prove this is real and not an illusion.

That being said, I doesn't make any sense to stop living my life because it MIGHT not be real. Since all we can do is experience our own world, that's all we can explore.

Does that make sense?

 

[MaxP]

Well, I can't prove that I'm not really in an insane asylum and all that I experience and everything I do are just delusions in my ill mind. I posed this to other people, and none of us have ever been able to come up with a way to prove this is real and not an illusion.

That being said, I doesn't make any sense to stop living my life because it MIGHT not be real. Since all we can do is experience our own world, that's all we can explore.

Does that make sense?

Yes.

But even if it was all fake(which I don't see a basis for, and since the assertion is made, it must be backed up by those who make it, right?), wouldn't be "real," to an extent? I mean, if we don't know its all fake, then why can't the fake be the real?
Kinda makes you think about what "real" is.

 

[tansy]

Maybe there's always a greater reality than you know. Maybe if a whale landed on abeach, somehown got back in the sea and reported what he'd seen to the other whales, they'd all say he was delusional or lying or whatever. (Well, assuming whales can talk). But it wouldn't mean what he'd seen wasn't real.

Anyway, usually when one gets into these deep philosophical discussions, one's mind tends to go into a spin, and starts thinking, maybe nothing's real , or whatever. At least my mind does.