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timothyu said:
In other words, as He told A&E and all through the Bible, put His will before our own will which tends to be self centered.
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@SabbathBlessings: Selfishness is the reason behind all sin our will above God's.

Autonomos - self law.
 
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BobRyan said:
Paul says in Gal 1:6-9 there is only ONE Gospel
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And according to Romans 2:5-16 that Gospel of Paul's also says:
  1. God will impartially judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ:
    1. God will recompense men according to their works
      1. Some will receive eternal life for persevering in good works/doing good/doing law
      2. Some will receive retribution and rage for disobedience to truth/obedience to unrighteousness/doing evil
 
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Soyeong said:
You were almost on the right track by saying that we have to exist within its particular rules, but then you contradicted yourself
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This seems to be one of the norms for the antinomian; contradiction, or outright negation, or hostility, or...
 
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BobRyan said:
It is established. period.

Interesting that you only quote that one snip from my post
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I just take your repetitive core teaching that is Legalism and then i post The Gospel of the Grace of God, in response.

You believe you can lose your Salvation, which means you dont Trust in Christ to keep you saved, BobRyan.
This means that your faith is in yourself to try to keep from losing your salvation.
 
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Chaleb said:
I just take your repetitive
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I just take it that you find the texts I present to you - too difficult to address given your bias.
Well you have free will you can go down that road if you wish.
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core teaching that is Legalism
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condemning statements prove nothing.
read.
deal with the actual texts in the post
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You believe you can lose your Salvation, which means you dont Trust in Christ
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1. I did not author those texts you are avoiding
2. ending your post with another condemning statement - proves nothing. We can all do that if it were proof of something.

How is this the least bit difficult to see in your POV.

The objective unbiased readers can see it.
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This means that your faith is in yourself
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More pejoratives instead of addressing the actual texts posted?
How "unexpected" at this point.

Hopefully this "textless" post matches your textless-post above enough for you to actually go to the texts posted and address them.
 
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BobRyan said:
Hopefully this "textless" post matches your textless-post above enough for you to actually go to the texts posted and address them.
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You feel that posting verses proves your point of view.
Actually, it proves you can post verses.
There is a lot of that on Forums, pretending to be a "teacher".

So, let me show you this...

In Adam, we all became fallen.
Adam's iniquity is the fall of us all.

Now, we are "all have sinned"., and that has to be dealt with by God, as we can't of our own selves deal with it.
God did.

Here is the issue He had to solve.

"Im God, im Righteousness, and humans are all SINNERS, so defined by my LAW and Commandments".

So, How do i solve their "unrighteousness" , as until this is solved, by GOD = i can't have them as my "Sons/Daughters'".

A.) God became a man. He became One of us to save ALL of us.

How?

B.) Born of a Virgin, JESUS the God man, lived under the law, kept it and fulfilled it for us. Then, as a sinless sacrifice God on the Cross, "became sin for us, "God made JESUS to be sin for us".

= 2 Corinthians 5:19.

And when God becomes our Sin, as "faith is counted as righteousness, and we are "born again" as "" a new Creation "in Christ""" we have RECEIVED
"the gift of Righteousness" that God has Provided so that we become it.
And based on that, """"GIFT of Righteousness""""= that is "the Gift of Salvation" that is the Blood Atonement, that is the New Covenant, that is : REDEMPTION....

A.) God, having now made us Righteous....(if we are born again and not just water baptized-sprinkled, and RELIGIOUS but LOST).......... now that God has imputed HIS Righteousness to us, we are now accepted by God, and become "in Christ", "made Righteous", .... Born again.
 
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Chaleb said:
now that God has imputed HIS Righteousness to us, we are now accepted by God, and become "in Christ", "made Righteous", .... Born again.
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That is just like saying God removed gentiles from the authourity of the false gods He has been doing battle with since the revolt (having previously only had the Hebrew people as His team)
 
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timothyu said:
Self justifying people find it easier to reject law in their speeches than saying the will of God even though they are the same.
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Agreed, but that's their problem. Let's speak like God does in His Word and be the light. There is some wisdom in bending a bit at times in certain situations (as you clearly know) but bend too far and lose the argument. I prefer God's Word in all its glory and at this point the spirit and Spirit in me says the same. Part of our judgment will be on what we were taught and determined to do with it John12:48-50. Christ, our first-born brother, spoke exactly like our Father.
 
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