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Since this forum looks like it is going to be spilt.

Which forum are you going to?

  • Tradtional forum

  • Progressive fourm


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Mankin

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Since this forum looks like it is going to be spilt in two, I have started this thread to find out how many people will be going to the progressive forum and how many will be going to the traditional forum. I just want a head count. I also don't want to hear any "crap" about whose fault it is that the forum is being spilt.
 

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I am honestally going to miss my traditional friends on this board and I honestally enjoyed the civil discussions on doctrine. But, this forum needs to be split for the time being. Perhaps we could have an interdenomantional forum where both Adventist groups can dicuss.
 
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Earlier we voted, the idea was to have the traditional and the progressive forum and then a debate forum. Now it seems that this is not good enough because some can't debate like reasonable people. So instead of making full separate forums why not just keep our sub-forums and police ourselves. We don't need to ban anyone if someone violates the rules we simply restrict them to either the progressive or traditional sub-forum. If they become a pain there perhaps then the members of that forum can decide a punishment.

We are always going to have discipline problems, at least till the CF rules determine ways to deal with the really nasty folks.
 
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The vote on what this forum will look like has already been taken. Icedragon has correctly noted that any other structural poll is invalid. There can only be one SDA forum with the four subforums that have been voted. This is the word of the people. So let it be written. So let it be done.
 
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I guess I'm what y'all consider traditional. :confused: I just want a forum for Bible study, a place to search the scriptures and gain insight. I have no interest in trying to convince other SDAs that our doctrines are wrong or outdated. I hope all this works out and 'thank you' to all of you who are putting it together.
 
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I guess I'm what y'all consider traditional. :confused: I just want a forum for Bible study, a place to search the scriptures and gain insight. I have no interest in trying to convince other SDAs that our doctrines are wrong or outdated.
I hope you will contribute to my "Through the Bible" thread.
 
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Since this forum looks like it is going to be spilt in two, I have started this thread to find out how many people will be going to the progressive forum and how many will be going to the traditional forum. I just want a head count. I also don't want to hear any "crap" about whose fault it is that the forum is being spilt.

oh, I voted wrong on your poll, are you going to put me in the progressive forum.... dont think so.......how meaningless and ridiculous this thread is and only helps evil in dividing us.
 
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Since this forum looks like it is going to be spilt in two, I have started this thread to find out how many people will be going to the progressive forum and how many will be going to the traditional forum. I just want a head count. I also don't want to hear any "crap" about whose fault it is that the forum is being spilt.
what are you doing Mankin?

Are you trying to split the forum? The forum is not going to split.
Mankin you are being devisive I think we need to ban Mankin from polling. Nothing personal. i am sharing your views, but you are not mature enough

you are 15 years old and a child you are not old enough to claim the type of authority or respect that you want.

Sit down and be quite
 
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what are you doing Mankin?

Are you trying to split the forum? The forum is not going to split.
Mankin you are being devisive I think we need to ban Mankin from polling. Nothing personal. i am sharing your views, but you are not mature enough

you are 15 years old and a child you are not old enough to claim the type of authority or respect that you want.

Sit down and be quite

You know what? I NEVER SAID THAT I WANTED AUTHORITY OR RESPECT! I am just trying to debate with you guys, IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK! Honestally, I am done with this forum. How do you know how mature I am or not? You barely know me! I am not trying to DIVIDE Anything. I was under the impression that this forum was going to be spilt so I started this poll to see how many people would be going where if the forum was spilt. Whatever, I am leaving this forum. You will find me at the liberal congregation forum.:mad:
 
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Part of the problem with this whole tempest in a teapot is that from the very outset, only one side has taken it upon themselves and has been allowed to not only define what they believe but also to define what others believe as well. I have been an Elder in this church for over 10 years and I believe, preaching and teaching the 28 fundamental beliefs of this church in sermons and bible studies and Sabbath School Classes and small groups... yet I was told repeatedly that I could not be a traditional SDA because I would not embrace the flawed perspectives of others who insisted they were traditional SDAs and if I disagreed with them then I could not be "traditional".

The only way to solve this issue is for each to define him or herself...and no others. 2Cor chapter 13 tells us to know ourselves, whether we be in the faith or reprobates... it never, however, calls on us to make that call for our brother or sister... and the bottom line is neither wing of this church is monolithic and whether one deems himself 'traditional' or 'progressive' there will be points of divergence not only with those who align themselves with the other camp, but also with those in their own camp as well...why? Because each and every one of us sees darkly, as in a glass. Each one knows *in part* and understands *in part*... and while I believe in my heart that all 28 beliefs are true, they do not encompass all of the truth and as progressive truth is revealed, I reserve the right to change my mind on any one or all of said beliefs as the Holy Spirit leads and guides me into all truth. Whether one moves while God remains still or remains still while God shifts, the end result is that one is still no longer in God's will.

That was the stance of the Adventist pioneers, not the psuedo-catholic posturing of "we have the truth" that is so prevalent in the church today. Without their having taken such a stance to continue seeking the truth, we would not have the Sabbath... we would not have the health message and so much more of this church's doctrines which the Millerites never held or embraced as truth.

For those whose toes were stepped on in this post... Dr Scholl's can help you with that... but I stand by all of what I've said with respect to all and apology to none. If folk feel they cannot abide being around anyone who doesn't see things exactly as they do, then my suggestion is that you can find the Kingdom Hall in the Yellow Pages... but neither segregation nor the path of least resistance that is to have "separate yet equal" subforums is the answer. Those who find themselves unable to abide others need to pray hard for them... but they have to pray even harder for themselves *first*... because, to paraphrase Cassius... the fault lies not in our stars... not in our man-made delineations or the pigeonholes we like to use to demonize those who disagree with us in order to cast aspersion on their arguments without actually addressing the arguments perse... not in our willingness to eschew what is right in lieu of what is easy... because all of those things are symptoms of the fault that is in ourselves.

Selah.


In His service,
Mr. J
 
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