Since I am here

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I am wondering if any of you have heard the word dhimmitude? You can Google it and get your own opinion. I am just wondering how this might affect the SDA view on end times?

 

[Byfaithalone1]

I am wondering if any of you have heard the word dhimmitude? You can Google it and get your own opinion. I am just wondering how this might affect the SDA view on end times?

I had never heard of this word, but it's an interesting question.

Traditional SDA thought suggests that a time is coming when sabbatarians will be persecuted by those who worship God on the wrong day of the week. Inherent in this point of view is the idea that there are right and wrong days to worship God.

Depending on where you are, the views can get more or less extreme. In the SDA church in which I grew up, I was taught at a young age how to identify edible berries, roots and mushrooms so I could better survive in that day down the road when I will have to live in a cave to escape persecution. Further, I participated as a child in mock trials where I was taught to defend why I observed the seventh-day sabbath. I was taught a series of proof texts that I could recite from memory that supported the seventh-day sabbath.

Admittedly, not all SDAs have had this same experience. SDAism takes on different flavors. However, many (if not most) SDAs believe that a day is coming when laws will be passed prohibiting sabbatarians from worshipping on the seventh day.

In addition, SDAs have historically been pacifists. For example, SDAism has historically encouraged members not to participate in military roles that require them to carry weapons.

I probably didn't answer your question. How can I help?

BFA

 

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I had never heard of this word, but it's an interesting question.

Traditional SDA thought suggests that a time is coming when sabbatarians will be persecuted by those who worship God on the wrong day of the week. Inherent in this point of view is the idea that there are right and wrong days to worship God.

Depending on where you are, the views can get more or less extreme. In the SDA church in which I grew up, I was taught at a young age how to identify edible berries, roots and mushrooms so I could better survive in that day down the road when I will have to live in a cave to escape persecution. Further, I participated as a child in mock trials where I was taught to defend why I observed the seventh-day sabbath. I was taught a series of proof texts that I could recite from memory that supported the seventh-day sabbath.

Admittedly, not all SDAs have had this same experience. SDAism takes on different flavors. However, many (if not most) SDAs believe that a day is coming when laws will be passed prohibiting sabbatarians from worshipping on the seventh day.

In addition, SDAs have historically been pacifists. For example, SDAism has historically encouraged members not to participate in military roles that require them to carry weapons.

I probably didn't answer your question. How can I help?

BFA

Hmmm! I understand the Islamic worship day is Friday. The SDA position only considers Sunday. Hmmm! My thinking is maybe they should reconsider their postion in light of this. I think that Islam will be a major player in end time events. By 2035 they will be the majority population in the US. Dhimmitude is a word basic to Islam describing their subjects. Some of which will resemble Jews in Germany. In other societies the dhimmis wear distictive clothing, give right of way to a Muslim, pay a special tax, etc. This is part of the health care bill recently passed. There are other issues as well. For instance under the health care bill one will be required to get a chip implant to be eligible to receive medical treatment. I think real Christians are going to be called very shortly, like 2014 according to the health care bill. Talk about reducing healthcare costs. One is going to be constricted to pay for something they can not have unless they get the chip. Do you understand they can read your license plate from satellite. They can read a magnetic id at 5-15 MPH going through a toll booth even if it is not in the window. I wrapped mine in foil and paid the toll attendant to keep from being electronically id. Consider the antitheft gates in stores. Get the idea?

 

[Byfaithalone1]

I think that Islam will be a major player in end time events.

I have explored this possibility in my mind as well. Although I do not claim to have the key to unlock prophesy, this type of scenario falls within the spirit of the book of Revelation which seems to focus on who we worship -- not when.

BFA

 

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I have explored this possibility in my mind as well. Although I do not claim to have the key to unlock prophesy, this type of scenario falls within the spirit of the book of Revelation which seems to focus on who we worship -- not when.

BFA

I guess that you haven't heard about beheading a Christian Book Store owner who refused to convert and other such news stories. The Islamic approach is to slaughter the infidels which are any non Muslim. They do give you a choice convert or die on the spot. these type stories come up in human rights circles all the time. I have also heard them from other sources which escape me at the moment. I don't listen to much media anymore. To many things to do. I need to be at least 3 people and still might not get it all done.

 

[Byfaithalone1]

I guess that you haven't heard about beheading a Christian Book Store owner who refused to convert and other such news stories. The Islamic approach is to slaughter the infidels which are any non Muslim. They do give you a choice convert or die on the spot. these type stories come up in human rights circles all the time. I have also heard them from other sources which escape me at the moment. I don't listen to much media anymore. To many things to do. I need to be at least 3 people and still might not get it all done.

I hear you and I think we agree on this.

BFA