Sin

[LilLamb219]

If you read someone's posting where he/she thought something was a sin...but it's really not, what would you reply back?

 

[DaRev]

If you read someone's posting where he/she thought something was a sin...but it's really not, what would you reply back?

That is awfully vague. I'd need to know a little more about the conetxt of the post and what was said.

 

[LilLamb219]

It wasn't on CF.

Basically a woman read some book and now believes that she needs to wear dresses for modesty when out in public. For her, wearing pants is a sin because men just might look at her crotch and lust after her.

There's a lot more to it, but that's the short version.

Now, I do believe in dressing modestly. But to say wearing pants is a sin...?

What sort of reply would you give to her knowing she is caught up in this?

 

[Jim47]

We can make things out to be a sin which are really no sin at all. This I believe is from a weak faith and an even weaker understanding of our Savior and what He has accomplished for us. Paul covers this problem in one of his epistles but I can't think of the right words to do a search.

There isn't anything that a woman can wear that will keep men from looking at her and lusting, I know because I'm a man and am also a sinner. But women who keep them selves up and make themselves look nice certainly aren't sinning against God or man. I have learned to look at a pretty women and not lust and we all can. Lust comes from the heart not the eyes. So if we keep our hearts free from the sensual desires we can master them, of course not without God's help.

My biggest weakness for the last 30 years ever since I gave up smoking is eating food. Does that mean that I should go back to smoking so food doesn't taste so good? I don't think so. I am so thankful that God gave me the strength to quit and it has bennefited my whole family.

 

[C.F.W. Walther]

Can I be honest about this?

Naw---- I better not be. I'd probably get banned. But I will say something. Certain things are REALLY distracting during worship!

 

[DaRev]

It wasn't on CF.

Basically a woman read some book and now believes that she needs to wear dresses for modesty when out in public. For her, wearing pants is a sin because men just might look at her crotch and lust after her.

There's a lot more to it, but that's the short version.

Now, I do believe in dressing modestly. But to say wearing pants is a sin...?

What sort of reply would you give to her knowing she is caught up in this?

If she is worried about that then perhaps she should take some fashion tips from Islam and completely cover herself except her eyes. As a sinful but forgiven human male I can assure you there are other parts of a woman that men look at. If she's concerned about one part, then she'd better cover them all.

As to whether wearing pants is a sin, no it isn't. She isn't the one doing the lusting.

 

[latebloomer]

Perhaps she has read something about it being shameful or sinful for women to wear men's clothes or to cut their hair or for a woman to have her hair uncovered. There is a group, a home church, I think, in my area. The women always wear skirts and have long hair pinned up with a thing that looks like a lace doily on top. I suspect they may believe something similar. I believe in dressing modestly, but I also don't believe that pants are strictly men's clothing. I can't remember the last time I wore a dress...when was the last time I went to a wedding.....?

latebloomer

 

[Jim47]

Can I be honest about this?

Naw---- I better not be. I'd probably get banned. But I will say something. Certain things are REALLY distracting during worship!

Gee Rad, thats never held you back before

 

[LilLamb219]

Gee Rad, thats never held you back before

There you go encouraging him to get into trouble!

 

[LilLamb219]

I am enjoying the responses here so far!

 

[Jim47]

There you go encouraging him to get into trouble!

Glad I could help

 

[MrHollow]

If she is worried about that then perhaps she should take some fashion tips from Islam and completely cover herself except her eyes. As a sinful but forgiven human male I can assure you there are other parts of a woman that men look at. If she's concerned about one part, then she'd better cover them all.

As to whether wearing pants is a sin, no it isn't. She isn't the one doing the lusting.

Now, while I don't say that this woman is correct, I can see where she is coming from:

Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather determine this--not to put an obstacle or a stumbling block in a brother's way.

Now, she may not be doing the lusting, but if she is wearing clothes that are meant to provoke that response, she is just as much in the wrong. not that I am saying that pants do that. Just sorta, playing the other side on this, since it could be taken that way.

 

[porterross]

I believe in dressing modestly, but I also don't believe that pants are strictly men's clothing. I can't remember the last time I wore a dress...when was the last time I went to a wedding.....?

latebloomer

I am the same way and pants make me feel less self-conscious and are less likely to blow up in wind, fly up when sitting or get stuck in your panty hose!

Unless women intend to wear ankle length skirts, their logic is not at all thought through.

Besides, it's men looking down our blouses that is usually a bigger issue unless a woman is wearing skin-tight pants that cause certain parts of the anatomy to be accensuated.

Does she really think that she is more tempting than all the little 20-somethings running around with their pierced bellies hanging out? Methinks someone needs a reality check.

 

[C.F.W. Walther]

Well unfortunately if women would realize that studies show that men are more quickly roused than women. Then they wouldn't wear such provocative clothes. It's torture to a single guy. Any guy

Being a good Lutheran I like to sit in the last row but if girls/women don't quit wearing thongs under their pants/dresses then I'm going to have to sit up front of the church. Naw----forget it. It's really hard to concentrate on communion when your following a jiggling butt up to the altar..

 

[TheCosmicGospel]

You could use your hymnal as a veil before thine eyes. Follow the words - not the jiggles.

Peace,
Cos

 

[DaRev]

Remember those musical cartoons from the 30's that used to be on TV Sunday morings?

"Sing along, kids, and follow the bouncing ball..."

 

[Flipper]

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[C.F.W. Walther]

You could use your hymnal as a veil before thine eyes. Follow the words - not the jiggles.

Peace,
Cos

That's not the point. Women should be more conscientious of what they wear. And just to tell the guys not to look is like putting $10K on the table and walking away and expecting it to be there when you come back.

 

[porterross]

The bottom line is that men are sexually attracted to women by God's design. Sometimes, what we wear doesn't matter either way.

 

[Jim47]

The bottom line is that men are sexually attracted to women by God's design. Sometimes, what we wear doesn't matter either way.

This is true, and not all bad. Its when we fail to control those urges that it becomes a sin.

I've even had women from CF tell me I'm cute just from looking at my picture, which I'll never understand, but I think God uses friendships between sexes to spread His word. I think in many times people will react in a more trusting manner when they have problems from a person of different gender, simply because God made us that way. Its the same as a trust between a man and his wife. This crosses over into friendships.

Sorry to get off topic LilLamb