Sin entered in the world when eve sinned!

[Hismessenger]

The truth is that the creation was already fallen thanks to Satan. He was the tree of the knowledge of Good and evil. And he was cut down leaving the stump and HIS roots in the earth, us. This is why we are born in sin because his sin nature is the root left in us. Until the root is pulled up and burned, it can grow back into the earth again.
He was in the garden, the anointed cherub which covers, until He fell into iniquity. All as Oldwiseguy said according to the divine will of God.

hismessenger

 

[beloved57]

The truth is that the creation was already fallen thanks to Satan.

Thats a lie, sin entered into the world by one mans sin, not by the devils sin..

 

[MamaZ]

Sin entered in through Adam..

 

[Hismessenger]

It all goes to your understanding of what is said in the scripture.
Here is a picture of Satan who brought sin into the creation.

Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Eze 28:14 Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Eze 28:15 Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

Your looking only at man by which sin entered into mankind but sin came into being through none other than Satan himself. Until iniquity was found in thee. What is iniquity? SIN. Christ came not only to restore mankind but to restore the entire creation.

Don't believe it, then read it for yourself;

Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God.

Rom 8:20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected [it] in hope;

Rom 8:21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Rom 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.

When the crowning creature of the creation sinned against God, all creation fell with us but sin came into the creation through the father of lies. Who then caused Adam to sin thus subjecting the entire creation to futility, according to the divine will of God.

What God has purposed is still a mystery to us but;

Rev 10:7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, the mystery of God would be finished , as He declared to His servants the prophets.

He has revealed to us certain things but there are other things which only He knows the reason why and wherefore of. Call it a lie if you want, I only came to serve.

hismessenger

 

[beloved57]

Sin entered in through Adam..

Hi mama..you do realize that eve was adam dont you ?

gen 1:


So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

gen 5:

Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

 

[hlaltimus]

I believe that sin entered the world of our universe initially by Satan, but the then world in which Satan was a free agent, excluded Adam who was yet to be made. When Eve sinned, sin then entered into her and into her alone, but when Adam sinned as an accomplice to Eve, sin then entered into him and into the race that proceeded from him as the nature of the race descended through the male and not through the female. Sin then, entered into the world of mankind through a man, but he was still not the author of sin, only the propagator of it into his new but very mutable world.

 

[Hismessenger]

I'm glad to see someone who looks at the whole truth instead of what is on the surface of one book. There are so many variables to this subject but there is one undeniable truth. Satan sinned before Adam and Eve, thus the creation was already fallen but when Adam sinned it took all of mankind with Him as you so aptly pointed out.

blessings to you.

hismessenger

 

[Benefactor]

Sin entered in the world when eve sinned!
1 tim 2:

13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

This scripture passage, establishes two things.#1, Federal Headship of the man, and # 2 that adam because of his headship was guilty of eves transgression, so much as so, it is said to be his rom 5:

14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

You see, God called their name Adam gen 5:


1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

So eves transgression was adams transgression..

Some will object to this, but its still true..

as soon as eve ate of the fruit, death pervaded their beings, Just as God said to adam gen 2:


16And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

You see, some erronously believe that adam had a choice as to wether or not he could have not eaten of the fruit his wife ate of and gave of him to eat.

Well the truth of the matter is, adam was already dead from the immediate effects of eves transgression, so he yielded himself as a servant of sin..

rom 6:

16Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

You see, adams unhestitant compliance to eves giving to him of the fruit to eat also, goes to prove that he was already dead to God, and alive to sin..sin had begun its rule over him and mankind at this time..

To say that Adam sinned because Eve sinned is a strange way to see things. Quite frankly it simply cannot be proved that Adam was automatically considered dead in sin and trespasses simply because Eve sinned.

There is room for theory but to form dogmatism around speculation has no merit. There could be a number of possibilities from the human perspective. All view fall short simply because we don't know and God has not chosen to reveal what He would have done in such a case. Make a list of the possibilities and that is as far as it goes and all views wind up back at the start line only to think it to death once more.