Sin Boldly Saloon

[Melethiel]

I like tuna salad. Especially during Lent.

9:15 is the crack of dawn? Since when?

I'm in a weird mood today. I stayed up until 2 am last night, and then spent all morning cleaning (voluntarily). I hate cleaning.

 

[SPALATIN]

I like tuna salad. Especially during Lent.

9:15 is the crack of dawn? Since when?

I'm in a weird mood today. I stayed up until 2 am last night, and then spent all morning cleaning (voluntarily). I hate cleaning.

When Kepler wrote the post it was 6:16am his time in California. Of course I was up at 5:30 central time which is 3:30 Pacific.

Now I'm tired.

 

[Protoevangel]

When Kepler wrote the post it was 6:16am his time in California. Of course I was up at 5:30 central time which is 3:30 Pacific.

Now I'm tired.

I was up at 3:30am yesterday (Pacific time - here.) I needed to be at work by 5am, because I had telephome meetings with co-workers in Denmark. I started drinking coffee and espresso immediately; it did absolutely no good. By the time 3:00pm rolled around, I was useless. I went home, and was successful at being usless there too. I took a nap just before dinner, and finally crashed at 9pm.

 

[SPALATIN]

I was up at 3:30am yesterday (Pacific time - here.) I needed to be at work by 5am, because I had telephome meetings with co-workers in Denmark. I started drinking coffee and espresso immediately; it did absolutely no good. By the time 3:00pm rolled around, I was useless. I went home, and was successful at being usless there too. I took a nap just before dinner, and finally crashed at 9pm.

Been there many times before. Will probably be there again as I go into the ministry.

Thanks for sharing Dan.

 

[JoshuaCh1v9]

Hey you guys.

Not been in for a while so thought I'd stop by and say hello.

Any chance of a cold beer?

 

[Jim47]

Hey you guys.

Not been in for a while so thought I'd stop by and say hello.

Any chance of a cold beer?

Pull up a seat and crack one open, I'm buying!

 

[KagomeShuko]

goodness! this was almost off the first page!

Does anybody want any cutco knives? LOL I am a sales rep for them. The thing is, I will NOT lie like Vector marketing WANTS me to lie. I feel like one of those sleazy used car salespeople with the things they want me to say at times.

I have really sharp knives, though! I don't know what that has to do with anything, but I do. . .

Stein Auf!
Bridget

 

[DaRev]

goodness! this was almost off the first page!

Does anybody want any cutco knives? LOL I am a sales rep for them. The thing is, I will NOT lie like Vector marketing WANTS me to lie. I feel like one of those sleazy used car salespeople with the things they want me to say at times.

I have really sharp knives, though! I don't know what that has to do with anything, but I do. . .

Stein Auf!
Bridget

Cutco knives are manufactured in my hometown.
Cutco is the brand name. Alcas is the corporate name. That's what we always called the knives - Alcas.
In fact, my father's company manufactured a machine that polishes and puts the mirror finish on the blades. (He also built a machine for Zippo lighters, made in Bradford, PA, right over the state line.)

As for Vector, what "lies" do they want you to tell people? I am curious...


DaRev

 

[Jim47]

goodness! this was almost off the first page!

Does anybody want any cutco knives? LOL I am a sales rep for them. The thing is, I will NOT lie like Vector marketing WANTS me to lie. I feel like one of those sleazy used car salespeople with the things they want me to say at times.

I have really sharp knives, though! I don't know what that has to do with anything, but I do. . .

Stein Auf!
Bridget

Happy Birthday Bridget!

 

[LutherNut]

Cutco knives are manufactured in my hometown.
Cutco is the brand name. Alcas is the corporate name. That's what we always called the knives - Alcas.
In fact, my father's company manufactured a machine that polishes and puts the mirror finish on the blades. (He also built a machine for Zippo lighters, made in Bradford, PA, right over the state line.)

As for Vector, what "lies" do they want you to tell people? I am curious...


DaRev

Hey, I know where that is! Not far from where I live.

You lived in Olean?


Jay

 

[KagomeShuko]

Hey, I know where that is! Not far from where I live.

You lived in Olean?


Jay

No, I've never lived in Olean. Every summer, Vector opens an office in Lake Charles - and then closes it without warning. They do this in many cities across the United States. . .

For me, it's just a job right now. . .cool knives, bad marketing.

Stein Auf!
Bridget

 

[KagomeShuko]

First, Vector tells lies:
Earning $13 an hour sounds great! That's what they advertise for job openings. (Amount varies, of course). It's not true, it's $13 or the commission on what you sell per appointment - depending on what's higher.

They say that it is not telemarketing or door-to-door sales. This is false as well. They used to tell reps they had to spend three hours on the phone per night calling references to get appointments - cold calling just saying, "Hey, so and so gave me your number." It's only changed one little bit - now the people you see call the person and THEN the rep calls the person. They also teach you a "door to door" type approach in training.

The whole free stuff deal, too - they teach you a "trade-in" special which really isn't anything except doing the free stuff deal.

They give you a prompt to read on the phone that says that the person doesn't need to buy anything but they can get something if they want it when you visit. . .of course, this is true, but they want you to push a sale, preferrably for the homemaker set.

The comparision ad for the henckels professional s set they give is from the william sonoma website. The prices are correct, and maybe even lower by now - but they are still only from one website rather than an average price of a few sites. Reps are taught that this is the definitely price for the henckels set. . .

I could go on and on. . .and about how the offices feel like a cult. I think I should write a book and try to get it published instead. . .LOL

Stein Auf!
Bridget

 

[LutherNut]

No, I've never lived in Olean. Every summer, Vector opens an office in Lake Charles - and then closes it without warning. They do this in many cities across the United States. . .

For me, it's just a job right now. . .cool knives, bad marketing.

Actually, I was asking DaRev if he lived in Olean since he said that's where Cutco knives are made. It's not far from where I live.

 

[KagomeShuko]

Actually, I was asking DaRev if he lived in Olean since he said that's where Cutco knives are made. It's not far from where I live.

Ah, I was just browsing threads quickly, so I didn't catch to whom you had responded.

Stein Auf!
Bridget

 

[KagomeShuko]

oh yeah, and for vector/cutco. . .not to mention the NOT mentioning sales tax, shipping fees, and administration fees if a person chooses to do a two pay, three pay, or five pay option. We're NOT supposed to mention that. . .

I see even infomercials HAVE to put that stuff on the screen!

I wrote it on the price guide even though they wouldn't want it. I can't lie to people like that.

Stein Auf!
Bridget

 

[stumpjumper]

Happy Birthday Bridget

 

[DaRev]

Hmmm

First, Vector tells lies:
Earning $13 an hour sounds great! That's what they advertise for job openings. (Amount varies, of course). It's not true, it's $13 or the commission on what you sell per appointment - depending on what's higher.

So, if the commission is higher, you get that. So, according to what you stated above, the minimum is $13 per hour. I don't see a problem with that.

They say that it is not telemarketing or door-to-door sales. This is false as well. They used to tell reps they had to spend three hours on the phone per night calling references to get appointments - cold calling just saying, "Hey, so and so gave me your number." It's only changed one little bit - now the people you see call the person and THEN the rep calls the person. They also teach you a "door to door" type approach in training.

This I find strange. Cutco has always done its sales by phone appointments and "door-to-door" type sales. They have always admitted to that.

They give you a prompt to read on the phone that says that the person doesn't need to buy anything but they can get something if they want it when you visit. . .of course, this is true, but they want you to push a sale, preferrably for the homemaker set.

But isn't that what you were hired to do? Push a sale? Isn't that what they want you to do? Isn't that how you get paid? I don't understand your complaint here. This is how sales people operate. They promote a product in order to obtain a sale of that product. If you don't want to do that, why are you working for them?

 

[DaRev]

Hey, I know where that is! Not far from where I live.

You lived in Olean?


Jay

Born and raised.

 

[KagomeShuko]

If you don't want to do that, why are you working for them?

Ever heard of applied almost everywhere that's hiring and have still not been hired?

 

[LutherNut]

Born and raised.

Did you go to Camp Pioneer when you were younger?

Really great place!