i don't know how i have made ethics and morals independent from God. i have meerly shown that if u take away a figure that would look down on what u did(mom, dad, God) there isn't as much of a reason to do good. the data for the abortion stuff is a simple thought process. if suddenly a vitamin was taken away from the body and it got sick u would say he needs that vitamin. when evolution was brought in and God was taken out the information shows that abortion divorce suicide all increased steadily. std's raised to because with out the bible there really is no one discouraging it. now there is no exact thing that says this but if u look at the info and what happened when it started to climb u will see what i am talking about. also about the things in the bible u will also see that whenever that happened the civilization was turned away from God. i would love to hear more of your thoughts. God bless
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