Signs

[Adam Kadamon]

Ok. As some of you might know, I'm a theistic agnostic. [for me] that means I believe in *something*, but with so many Gods and Goddesses vying for the position of 'supreme being' I don't know what it is I'm believing it. Hence my decision not to firmly join one religion.


Lately though I've been having real problems. Personal and spiritual. I've been feeling so lost. I did some 'soul searching' and realized I had, in a way, died long ago. I realized I was only bound to this world through necessity and suddenly found myself feeling a tranquil, almost long acceptance of death.

Then I did something I had not done in I don't know how long. I prayed.

I asked for some sign. I asked 'what do I do?'.

Then I was searching for a VHS tape I was missing and came across a CD I had recorded a long while ago. I decided to listen to it and one of the songs interested me. The lyrics, anyway.

"The morning rain is over now
And the sun peeks through the clouds
All world is new
I feel I could do
Anything I'd like to try.

Get on my bike and take a ride
To explore the world outside
Go adventuring
Or anything
Beneath the bluest sky

The wind is warm and sweet
Summer's in the air
Everywhere
And uphill climbs can only lead to nicer views

So, I'll turn my eyes
To world and to the skies
A biycle ride is the only price
To get me to paradise.

Hey! And from this view
Even all clouds seem new
Reminding me the storm might bring the rain but then
Everything will shine new once again.


And from the road below I hear
City rythms soft and clear
I'm adventuring
And everything
The world all around flies by

I cross a little bridge
Pass a railroad track
Summer's back
The world is only green
And light that shining through

Now, I turn my eyes
Where the sea reflect the skies
To open my heart is the only price
To get me to paradise

Hey! And from this view
Even twilight skies seem new
And now my heart is letting the sun shine in
Showing me the way I should begin

So, I'll turn my eyes
To world and to the skies
A biycle ride is the only price
To get me to paradise.

Hey! And from this view
Even all clouds seem new
Reminding me the storm might bring the rain but then
Everything will shine new once again. "


Before this I had been seriously thinking of committing suicide. Finding this CD and this song changed my mind. especially the line "uphill climbs can only lead the nicer views"

What happened before this though is what really interests me. I was stopped in a store a little more than a week ago. A woman handed me a book 'The life the Jesus' and told me it was a free gift. Right before she handed it to me though, she stuck in a free bookmark.

The book had been lying on my counter for about a week. I kept looking at it. I had a strange urge to pick it up, but I didn't. Finally though, on the day I prayed for a sign, I flipped it open to the page the woman had randomly placed the bookmark.

The passage I opened to said:

"If a shepard has one hundred sheep, and one wanders away and is lost; what will he do? Won't he leave the ninety-nine others and go out into the hills and search for the lost one? And if he finds it, he will surely rejoice over it more than over the ninety-nine that didn't wander way! In the same way, it si not my heavenly Father's will that even one of these little ones should perish"

My sign? Or was I just so desperate and it was merely coincidence?



So I did an online search. Maybe I could talk to someone. I had seen shows a television where they answered questions from veiwers with spiritual problems.

I found only hate sites.

The good feeling I had had had gone away. Then I thought (jokingly, at the time) 'maybe this is a sign not to look to my fellow human beings for answers'.

I'm a bit confused. What do you guys think of all this? Is there a chance I'm getting messages from the divine? Or am I really THAT insecure?

 

[tkoman]

Man, whoa.

Many times the way I see God working is just like that - "coincidence".

Interesting, I'll share this with you - I was a staunch atheist with an agenda - when I decided it would be "intellectually honest" for me to open my heart and mind to the Bible and apply the same rules that I would to historical texts. Funny, I had gone to church and I had a similiar experience - God opened the Bible just where I needed to be and I received the message.

Even at the time I shrugged it off as coincidence and it certainly may have been, however, through my experience I found Jesus.

I would only caution that I would not put too much credence into looking for a "miracle" (although it would take one for you to be saved) but I would just go with the flow - if it is God pointing the way just keep an open mind and go with it - who knows right?

I am truly praying for you, man.

In His service,

Johannes

 

[Adam Kadamon]

I would only caution that I would not put too much credence into looking for a "miracle" (although it would take one for you to be saved)

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In what tone with the part in ()'s said?

I'm not great at interpreting...which is partly why I made this thread.

Thank you for your reply.

 

[Blessed-one]

interesting song.. i like the meaning it conveys.

God does work in a 'coincidence' way, for christians and non-christians alike. If you had ever read some testimonials, most of them one way or the other have something to do with 'coincidence'. I became a more serious christian through my unbelieving father's interest... coincidence?

looking for infor on the net is at times unreliable, unless the source is well known outside the net.

 

[Adam Kadamon]

I wasn't looking for information...more people to talk to. I don't know why I didn't think of coming here first. Can definately find people 'in the know' here.

 

[kimber1]

i think it could most definitely be a sign i know there have been times i have been so angry over certain things and i'll pick up my Bible and just flip through it and it always seems to fall open on verses tlaking about either loving each other or being blessed when people persecute you or not to engage in arguing...it seems always to fit the circumstance

 

[Adam Kadamon]

Yes...

I was just thinking and I think I've hit the real root of my problem. Trust. There have been events in my life that have rendered me unable to trust others so easily. Including divine beings who may or may not exist.

I mean...how do you *know*. lol, I know there isn't a solid answer for that. maybe...how do you know it isn't your imagination? or rather, how do I know it is not mine.

I'm a very spiritual person myself. I believe that anything is possible. If you knew me you'd understand why I'm torn between my spiritual beliefs and my mental state. heh.

 

[seebs]

I would suggest that you follow the Christ, not the Christians. Don't worry too much about the way in which people get things wrong; try to get them right yourself.

I don't think we ever know. I'm a fairly devout Christian, and I'm also an agnostic. Faith comes and goes.

 

[Adam Kadamon]

*huggles*

You people are so nice

 

[Chris Singletary]

You can find your answer in Christ.

The problem is that you have not had God in your life. Without a meaning for existance, then life means nothing. You have felt this.. what are you doing here? Why do you exist? Is there more to existence than just breathing, eating, and working (so that you can eat), and then dying?

Well, existance fortunately, is more than that. In the Christian faith, God has created humankind for fellowship with him. To forever live with him. It requires action on your part to give you heart to God and turn over you life to his Lordship. The road of faith is an easy one despite what some people post in here (mainly athiests), because you can rest in that if he called you then he will also supply your needs and the cares of this world will be removed from your back. No more worry about why you exist, no more lack of meaning for you life, but replaced by a peace that passes understanding.

God can and will be faithful to love and guide you. And when you eventually die, he will raise you up to be with him. Much better than to die thinking that that is the end of your existance.

Peace.. and may you find your way to the arms of God through his the work that his Son Jesus did on the cross.

 

[Chris Singletary]

God exists and you can rest from that search.. there are many ways to approach this, but if I approached it with science I think you would see that he exists.

Physics for example. Not sure how old you are and if you have had any physics classes, but if you have I think you can identify with some of what I am going to tell you.

In the natural world, we have laws. These laws are instituted by the society in order to provide order from chaos. Without the laws then chaos would reign. Order does not take place naturally but requires 1) laws and 2) enforcement of the laws.

In physics, there are also laws. In eg, laws of strong and weak interaction that take place to hold the neucleus of an atom together when one particle is positive and one is neutral. Who initiated this law that holds the nuetron to the proton? Did it require an intellect? Does it require an enforcer?

The answer is an emphatic yes! If you ask a physicist HOW the law works, he will tell you he does not know.. he will just look at you puzzled and that it just does. I am here to tell you that your every existance and the existance of the world around you is because God is enforcing the laws of nature. He is everywhere and in everything holding them all under the laws that he set up.

Laws of elemental particles, gravity, principles of light, thermodynamics, etc.. are ALL evidence that he exists because of the very laws that they operate under can only exist if there is an enforcer of the law. You can end your search for the Almighty.. he is right in front of you; when light hits your face, or you examine your body when the very elements that make it up are held together by his will.

Now you know the meaning of this passage.
Colosians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Once you place God through Jesus at the center of your life, your problems may not go away, but your fear and cares will have. You will know you are loved and nothing anyone can do to you will make you loose your joy and your life everlasting with God. Peace..

 

[Adam Kadamon]

Thank you.

My last physics class was in the 8th grade (I'm in my 20's now), but I know what you mean.

I do not deny the existance of a deity and yes, as a theist I do feel spiritual presence when I look at the stars or when a breeze blows by. This 'evidence', however, could be applied to any deity. Even one we may know nothing about.

Why, when I feel moved spiritually should I think 'It's God'?

You see my problem?

 

[mlukas]

Adam,
Just looking at what happened I really do believe it is a sign. I believe God speaks to us all in a variety ways. God has "done" things like that to me a lot of times! It seems he uses little things like that to remind me and point me in the right direction.
One example: About a month ago I was driving home at night and was really upset over just some problems in my life. I was telling God I just wish he could come down and talk to me, to be able to see Him and just know that He loves me. The off ramp directly to my house was closed, so I had to head down the road to the next exit. En route I drove by a church that is tucked inside an industrial complex. I kid you not, I've been by this church hundreds of times but never saw this! On the side of their building was a huge neon cross with the words "Jesus Loves You.." in BRIGHT red neon below.
I just started to cry and thank God. Coincedance? No way! I don't think your signs are just mere chance either. God loves you, and is listening!

M

 

[TheMainException]

Dude, this is how God speaks to us...he is totally speaking to you...and he is speaking to me through you about an issue that I'm dealing with right now.