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My brother is Christian but is not active in the church community, claiming that church doesn't directly help the needy or poor. He believes that giving to charities and 'directly' helping is much better than going to church, and sees little need for himself to go. He often resorts to self-help books and things that make him a better communicator and more 'likable' around people. I'm not one to judge, but to me it seems he compensates for feeling guilty or not entirely understanding and being too ashamed or proud to admit it. Again, just my thoughts though I'm undoubtedly biased, being a close sibling.

The main issue, here, is that he views me very negatively as a result. He's a big financial guy, and is projected to be a multi-millionaire by his 30s. To him, his life is going great and he's okay with projecting his (sometimes morally questionable) lifestyle onto others, especially me.

For spring break I'm with him, and he continues to "project" himself onto me or to people around me. Like our grandma. She called up and asked him what I'm doing for spring break (she's in her 90s) and I could hear him saying, with me conveniently in earshot, that I was probably going to, quote, "play videogames" all weekend. Granted, I'm a gamer, but everyone has their vices, right? >.> The other thing is that I could've gone to New York with my cousin. She's bipolar among other things that I won't get into, and has a tendency to not get back to people. That's another story.. The NYC thing didn't work out, and I didn't want to go to NY alone and stay at my other sibling's apartment (with 2 of his friends I've never met) who would be working pretty much all day (he has 3 jobs). I declined the idea of going to NYC because I didn't want to go around New York alone, that would scare me to death! Well, going back to the phone call, my brother told her that I didn't want to go to New York and that it was a missed opportunity that I probably won't get again.

You can imagine how I feel, I hope, at this point. I'm not a loser, I'm not a bad person, but my brother continues to make me feel awful about myself. I understand that in all likelihood he doesn't understand his impact on me and is just being his 'haughty' self.

I feel mad and helpless at the same time. Like he'll never understand my more laid-back personality and will always project himself onto me and even his vision of me onto others around him. This has been an ongoing thing in my life, my other sibling does this too and the worst is if they gang up and 'bully' me, or at least that's what I see it as. I'm the youngest of my immediate and extended family. I've always been more laid back, introspective, introverted, 'shy' (ie a little reluctant to approach others), etc. Lately, I've been trying to find my strengths not focus on my weaknesses because of my low self-esteem. I'm a terrible public speaker and am generally anxious around big groups or even "bold" people.. I've been trying to improve my personal life because I want to fulfill God's will and be a better person for him and the good around me. I don't want to be so anxious, it's not a great feeling..

Any ideas? I prefer a thought-out response with consideration for my feelings and the overall situation, it's not the easiest subject to talk about. Thank you. :)

PS I pray to God, and I try to be grateful for what I have not focusing on what's 'wrong' with me or whatever. I know I'm 20 and still play videogames and like to do more introverted things like read or go on forums like these, but I rarely share this side of me with others, and am apprehensive to the fact, really..

PPS On top of all of this, my parents are pastors/missionaries yet are generally accepting of my brothers' behavior. They seem to dislike my laid back self. They like ambitious, type 'A' people with generally strong characteristics. My mom was a youngest but was very smart and skipped 8th grade altogether, and seems to think she knows who I am but I doubt it...

..Sry for the long post. I know it's a lot to take in but if someone can identify, has prior experience of some sort, or can offer advice it could really help, I think. Thanks..
 
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My brother is Christian but is not active in the church community, claiming that church doesn't directly help the needy or poor. He believes that giving to charities and 'directly' helping is much better than going to church, and sees little need for himself to go. He often resorts to self-help books and things that make him a better communicator and more 'likable' around people. I'm not one to judge, but to me it seems he compensates for feeling guilty or not entirely understanding and being too ashamed or proud to admit it. Again, just my thoughts though I'm undoubtedly biased, being a close sibling.

The main issue, here, is that he views me very negatively as a result. He's a big financial guy, and is projected to be a multi-millionaire by his 30s. To him, his life is going great and he's okay with projecting his (sometimes morally questionable) lifestyle onto others, especially me.

For spring break I'm with him, and he continues to "project" himself onto me or to people around me. Like our grandma. She called up and asked him what I'm doing for spring break (she's in her 90s) and I could hear him saying, with me conveniently in earshot, that I was probably going to, quote, "play videogames" all weekend. Granted, I'm a gamer, but everyone has their vices, right? >.> The other thing is that I could've gone to New York with my cousin. She's bipolar among other things that I won't get into, and has a tendency to not get back to people. That's another story.. The NYC thing didn't work out, and I didn't want to go to NY alone and stay at my other sibling's apartment (with 2 of his friends I've never met) who would be working pretty much all day (he has 3 jobs). I declined the idea of going to NYC because I didn't want to go around New York alone, that would scare me to death! Well, going back to the phone call, my brother told her that I didn't want to go to New York and that it was a missed opportunity that I probably won't get again.

You can imagine how I feel, I hope, at this point. I'm not a loser, I'm not a bad person, but my brother continues to make me feel awful about myself. I understand that in all likelihood he doesn't understand his impact on me and is just being his 'haughty' self.

I feel mad and helpless at the same time. Like he'll never understand my more laid-back personality and will always project himself onto me and even his vision of me onto others around him. This has been an ongoing thing in my life, my other sibling does this too and the worst is if they gang up and 'bully' me, or at least that's what I see it as. I'm the youngest of my immediate and extended family. I've always been more laid back, introspective, introverted, 'shy' (ie a little reluctant to approach others), etc. Lately, I've been trying to find my strengths not focus on my weaknesses because of my low self-esteem. I'm a terrible public speaker and am generally anxious around big groups or even "bold" people.. I've been trying to improve my personal life because I want to fulfill God's will and be a better person for him and the good around me. I don't want to be so anxious, it's not a great feeling..

Any ideas? I prefer a thought-out response with consideration for my feelings and the overall situation, it's not the easiest subject to talk about. Thank you. :)

PS I pray to God, and I try to be grateful for what I have not focusing on what's 'wrong' with me or whatever. I know I'm 20 and still play videogames and like to do more introverted things like read or go on forums like these, but I rarely share this side of me with others, and am apprehensive to the fact, really..

PPS On top of all of this, my parents are pastors/missionaries yet are generally accepting of my brothers' behavior. They seem to dislike my laid back self. They like ambitious, type 'A' people with generally strong characteristics. My mom was a youngest but was very smart and skipped 8th grade altogether, and seems to think she knows who I am but I doubt it...

..Sry for the long post. I know it's a lot to take in but if someone can identify, has prior experience of some sort, or can offer advice it could really help, I think. Thanks..

hey chad.. well, it sounds like you have a pretty good grasp on whats going on around you..
why not spend a little less time worrying about what your brother says, or does, and channel some of that worry into you and your faith..
i know it is hard.. and it hurts to see someone we care so much about, set their sights on something less that Heaven..
lets face it.. he is who he is.. you know that old saying, "you can lead a horse to water. but, you can't make him drink"... hmmm, you may not be able to make him drink.. but, he can watch you drink, and swim.. i can't imagine it taking you, much splashing around, before he developed a thirst... so why not be an example of what a Christ centered person is supposed to be.. it can't hurt, and i can see you and your brother having a far more fruitful relationship, without both of you worrying about what the other is up to..
i used to worry about what would become of each those in my family, if they died without Christ.. i was going mad at the thought of it..
then one night while out walking, in a the snow.. just time out in God's garden.. it came to me..
why worry.. i mean, if they are God's elect, then they will come to Christ.. God will woo them.. and if they are not. well, i can trust that the Sovereign of the universe, will do what is right.. i mean, i would be more upset to find out that the One that created me, just swung the doors of Heaven open to all, just because He was a nice Guy.. that would make the One and Only Truth that i have anchored myself to, a liar.. well, that would begin the mental destruction of my mind.. not even knowing what to think about my soul and spirit.. i mean i have my everything riding on His Word, and That alone.. i would much rather lose anyone or everyone to hells fire, because my God is righteous and just.. who wants a really nice God? not me.. i want God to be righteous.. i demand the same justice from my Creator as He demands of me.. and that means that He will punish all of our sins.. i could not even fathom that at the end of all of this.. time stops and there is even one little sin unaccounted for.. I couldn't respect or love that god.. i used a small "g" here because that is not my God.. he does not leave loose ends... but, it isn't God that is uncertain.. He never changes.. He will never change.. not ever.. people are the uncertainties.. they are the free radicals.. and as much as i hate to say it.. we are the cancer..
chad if your brother doesn't come to Christ, and never makes it to Heaven.. i can promise you this.. you won't care once you are there.. none of those lost will be remembered, and if they are. we will submit that our Creator is righteous in His judgement of the unjust.. and your brother, he won't think he is missing anything.. because he was never Christ minded..
when i was a kid, i god several burns.. one was from a hot cookie sheet when my mom was baking, shake and bake.. remember that stuff.. lol.. it was awesome.. anyhow, all of those burns were really painful.. and i cried at times.. i mean it was not fun.. but, there were also other times that my lies were found out.. and i mean, that people, i really respected and knew that they loved me, caught me in an outright lie... i almost wonder if the reason lie rhymes with die, is because that is pretty much what i wanted to do once i was found out... i was tormented.. the punishment of the crime would have been pale in comparison...
i am sure that it would be the same with Christ.. i wouldn't be able to handle it.. that kind of pain is torment.. the only thing i can think of, that is worse than a broken heart.. would be to look into the eyes of that someone who's heart heart you, yourself broke... i'm not talking about a girlfriend or boyfriend here.. i am talking about somebody that truly loved us.. somebody that would die for us.. like Jesus Christ...
blessings brother, keep up the good fight... and chad. rest in the Lord, and the assurance that this is all child's play to Him... He really is sooooo much bigger than all of this..
 
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Being introverted is a mental process where you need to back off, or pause your life for a moment and discover if the Word of God has proper relevance to a situation that suspiciously seems in total contrast to how a Christian should personally/socially react:.
Sometimes I wonder if God the Father is allowing both Jesus Christ and Satan in our lives, on a single blue living planet Earth, where no other living planet as far as we know exists in the outer space neighborhood:.
It's almost like we are AVATARS of our real selves, like the scifi film AVATAR, where our real selves are inside safety-focused hi-tech coffin-like beds inside our future-coming most advanced, free-for-all home accommodation and fire-proof city: the kingdom of God:.
There is a suspicious feeling that if God can see human future events then he can also see mankind's improvement in science and technology many decades from now, especially in house and vehicle construction materials, as the type of house and car we own mirror our financial asset worth:.
I, as well as every saved brother and sister of Christ, would be totally stunned if our Lord Jesus Christ has a collection of supercars, like the Ferrari or Lamborghini, that are generations ahead of our present 21st century generation - once he has returned to Earth to make his global victory return a powerful life-transforming and planet-transforming experience to save both human race and planet Earth from apocalyptic destruction .;'*';. Rev 21:2
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hey chad.. well, it sounds like you have a pretty good grasp on whats going on around you..
why not spend a little less time worrying about what your brother says, or does, and channel some of that worry into you and your faith..
i know it is hard.. and it hurts to see someone we care so much about, set their sights on something less that Heaven..
lets face it.. he is who he is.. you know that old saying, "you can lead a horse to water. but, you can't make him drink"... hmmm, you may not be able to make him drink.. but, he can watch you drink, and swim.. i can't imagine it taking you, much splashing around, before he developed a thirst... so why not be an example of what a Christ centered person is supposed to be.. it can't hurt, and i can see you and your brother having a far more fruitful relationship, without both of you worrying about what the other is up to..
i used to worry about what would become of each those in my family, if they died without Christ.. i was going mad at the thought of it..
then one night while out walking, in a the snow.. just time out in God's garden.. it came to me..
why worry.. i mean, if they are God's elect, then they will come to Christ.. God will woo them.. and if they are not. well, i can trust that the Sovereign of the universe, will do what is right.. i mean, i would be more upset to find out that the One that created me, just swung the doors of Heaven open to all, just because He was a nice Guy.. that would make the One and Only Truth that i have anchored myself to, a liar.. well, that would begin the mental destruction of my mind.. not even knowing what to think about my soul and spirit.. i mean i have my everything riding on His Word, and That alone.. i would much rather lose anyone or everyone to hells fire, because my God is righteous and just.. who wants a really nice God? not me.. i want God to be righteous.. i demand the same justice from my Creator as He demands of me.. and that means that He will punish all of our sins.. i could not even fathom that at the end of all of this.. time stops and there is even one little sin unaccounted for.. I couldn't respect or love that god.. i used a small "g" here because that is not my God.. he does not leave loose ends... but, it isn't God that is uncertain.. He never changes.. He will never change.. not ever.. people are the uncertainties.. they are the free radicals.. and as much as i hate to say it.. we are the cancer..
chad if your brother doesn't come to Christ, and never makes it to Heaven.. i can promise you this.. you won't care once you are there.. none of those lost will be remembered, and if they are. we will submit that our Creator is righteous in His judgement of the unjust.. and your brother, he won't think he is missing anything.. because he was never Christ minded..
when i was a kid, i god several burns.. one was from a hot cookie sheet when my mom was baking, shake and bake.. remember that stuff.. lol.. it was awesome.. anyhow, all of those burns were really painful.. and i cried at times.. i mean it was not fun.. but, there were also other times that my lies were found out.. and i mean, that people, i really respected and knew that they loved me, caught me in an outright lie... i almost wonder if the reason lie rhymes with die, is because that is pretty much what i wanted to do once i was found out... i was tormented.. the punishment of the crime would have been pale in comparison...
i am sure that it would be the same with Christ.. i wouldn't be able to handle it.. that kind of pain is torment.. the only thing i can think of, that is worse than a broken heart.. would be to look into the eyes of that someone who's heart heart you, yourself broke... i'm not talking about a girlfriend or boyfriend here.. i am talking about somebody that truly loved us.. somebody that would die for us.. like Jesus Christ...
blessings brother, keep up the good fight... and chad. rest in the Lord, and the assurance that this is all child's play to Him... He really is sooooo much bigger than all of this..
This makes a lot of sense to me. Thanks for this post :) I'll try to focus on being Christ-like to represent a part of God that people like. Having said that, I find following Christ to be a countercultural thing that most people find strange! Well, I'll keep doing it anyways, I mean I try to but it's hard...

Thanks for your post too, Quasi, you have some very interesting ideas and a good imagination!

Any more thoughts by anyone on what it means to be a youngest child in Christ? Or how to deal with being the odd one out in a Christian family? Sometimes I focus way too much on how people don't see my strengths and not enough on being Christ-centered. Thanks again for the post boogala
 
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Matthew 13:22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

To him, his life is going great and he's okay with projecting his (sometimes morally questionable) lifestyle onto others, especially me.

James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

Your brother may be the one who should worry about "missing out on a big opportunity".

My mom was a youngest but was very smart and skipped 8th grade altogether, and seems to think she knows who I am but I doubt it...

Consider that God made you the type of person you are. Those who are forceful personality types have an extra problem. They are in danger of mistaking what they do as what God wants. This results in things like the Galatians thinking they needed to follow the advice of the forceful personalities convincing them of circumcision. This is called the flesh and is a real problem for the type A personalities.

Those who tell you you should be more like them are really telling you that they don't like you the way that you are and that as they are superior to you, you should try to be more like them. This is like telling a short person they should try harder to be tall. Short and tall both have their advantages and disadvantages. Loud and quiet also have their usefulness for our Savior.

Seek the Lord first. Grow in His word. Pray for your family that they would seek the wisdom that God offers to all who ask. God wants you to follow the path he has for you that you would be changed and shaped, not to the image of your family, but to the image of His Son.

Romans 8:28-29 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Church leadership is supposed to help us in this process;

Ephesians 4:11-15 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

It sounds like there are plenty of people attempting to instruct you and that you are discerning enough to avoid advice that is unhelpful. All I can suggest is to keep your eyes upon Jesus.

Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.
 
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Matthew 13:22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.



James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

Your brother may be the one who should worry about "missing out on a big opportunity".



Consider that God made you the type of person you are. Those who are forceful personality types have an extra problem. They are in danger of mistaking what they do as what God wants. This results in things like the Galatians thinking they needed to follow the advice of the forceful personalities convincing them of circumcision. This is called the flesh and is a real problem for the type A personalities.

Those who tell you you should be more like them are really telling you that they don't like you the way that you are and that as they are superior to you, you should try to be more like them. This is like telling a short person they should try harder to be tall. Short and tall both have their advantages and disadvantages. Loud and quiet also have their usefulness for our Savior.

Seek the Lord first. Grow in His word. Pray for your family that they would seek the wisdom that God offers to all who ask. God wants you to follow the path he has for you that you would be changed and shaped, not to the image of your family, but to the image of His Son.

Romans 8:28-29 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Church leadership is supposed to help us in this process;

Ephesians 4:11-15 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

It sounds like there are plenty of people attempting to instruct you and that you are discerning enough to avoid advice that is unhelpful. All I can suggest is to keep your eyes upon Jesus.

Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.
Timf, you have a lot to say that speaks well to me and shines light on considerations I hadn't thought of or seen. Thank you for the meaningful and undoubtedly insightful post :)

I'll continue to reflect on this thread and the posts here. I'll try to be Christ-centered instead of focusing so much on other people's recommendations for me. I know they mean well, but they don't seem to get it or even trust that I'm doing my best (or at least am trying very hard) on my own path. I'll try to bring this to light to them, and I won't give up! Thank you to everyone who's posted, it really does mean a lot. I love this community :)
 
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