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Usually when a person says tradition in the regards to religion they mean a body of "authoritative" teachings and rulings. What has been "passed down" [traditioned] in terms of dogma, doctrine, practice, and so on. The tradition of male priesthood in the Roman Catholic Church would be one example.
Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God
Scripture is directing you to listen to GOD's SPIRIT! Not to read Scripture to obtain faith.
It does say overseers are to " be the husband of one wife" in the Bible. This may very well imply what you saying here. That doesn't change the fact that it's a tradition held to by the Catholic Church though.The "tradition" of a male priesthood in the RCC (and a bunch of other churches which DON'T value Tradition the way the RCC does) is not based upon Tradition. It's based upon Scripture and only confirmed by Tradition.
No it isn't! Jesus is called, THE WORD OF GOD
Uh, "by the word of God" means exactly that--Scripture. Scripture is called the word of God in the Bible.
No it isn't! Jesus is called, THE WORD OF GOD
[FONT="]"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart[/FONT]"
Word, does this mean scripture or Jesus?
Yes, it is. In addition, Jesus is also called the Word, and he's once called the Word of God. I am sure that you can chew gum and walk straight at the same time, so I'm also confident that you can handle words that are used to mean one thing at one time and another at another time.
(It's much like the word deacon that means, literally, servant. We were talking about that also on this thread. Are there different kinds of servants doing different tasks? Yes, and that's the difference between a deacon and a deaconess--totally different roles but they both serve the needs and people of the congregation.)
It does say overseers are to " be the husband of one wife" in the Bible. This may very well imply what you saying here. That doesn't change the fact that it's a tradition held to by the Catholic Church though.
Can you show from Scripture that we are to only rely on it alone and that Christians were wrong for the first 1500 years for not using the Bible alone. No one has be able to yet.In response to another thread that was recently closed, can anyone show me in scripture where it says scripture alone is not enough? Please show me where scriptures say we need anything else.
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Wow! Really?Can you show from Scripture that we are to only rely on it alone and that Christians were wrong for the first 1500 years for not using the Bible alone. No one has be able to yet.
You,re back-peddling! You said, "Uh, "by the word of God" means exactly that--Scripture. Scripture is called the word of God in the Bible."
Can you show from Scripture that we are to only rely on it alone and that Christians were wrong for the first 1500 years for not using the Bible alone. No one has be able to yet.
Actually, Romans 10:17 - the verse referred to uses the word "rhema" which refers to the spoken word of God - not logos, which would refer to the written words.Uh, "by the word of God" means exactly that--Scripture. Scripture is called the word of God in the Bible.
., but it is not a position held in the Church by consensus without the testimony of the Scriptures. That's what Tradition would mean
Actually, Romans 10:17 - the verse referred to uses the word "rhema" which refers to the spoken word of God - not logos, which would refer to the written words.
And, when the New Testament writings refer to "scripture", they are not referring to themselves because those authors did not consider that they were writing scripture, they were referring to the Old Testament writings, which was the only writings that were considered "scripture" at that time.
And, when the New Testament writings refer to "scripture", they are not referring to themselves because those authors did not consider that they were writing scripture, they were referring to the Old Testament writings, which was the only writings that were considered "scripture" at that time.
That's not what he ask so you are just as guilty of taking the thread down a rabbit trail. The answer is no where in Scripture does it say to use it alone but to answer his question Paul says to use Tradition not just ScriptureI think we owe it to the questioner not to change the topic of his thread. Where in scripture does it tell us not to consider Scripture sufficient?
That's not what he ask so you are just as guilty of taking the thread down a rabbit trail. The answer is no where in Scripture does it say to use it alone but to answer his question Paul says to use Tradition not just Scripture
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