Should we ever stop asking?

[D.W.Washburn]

Do you like rum and a dash of nutmeg in your eggnog?

 

[stranger]

How is the anniversary of one's birth pagan?

Is the celebration of the day of one's birth not Babylonian astrological ritual if one checks the hitory of birthday-keeping ?

Are all days not changed to the names of pagan Gods and their times changed from the days God described [Gen 1] ? [Daniel 7:25] ?

And is every day not holy if lived for God to the best of one's ability?

Has God not said whch days are holy TO HIM ,in his scripture, and do men mostly keep those days as holy or prefer to keep pagan days in place of every single holy day named by God as pleasing to Him ?

 

[stranger]

how could anyone know the answers to these questions?

How could anyone not know the answers since they are written ?

 

[stranger]

Are we even trying to find the answers?
Is the question not the point?

Is that not indeed the very spirit of this thread , and such an inspired idea in the OP ?

 

[stranger]

Will we be subjected to this kind of questioning all the way up to Christmas day, even though the asker has no idea what we might all do in terms of both celebrating the day of our Lord's birth or in terms of charity?

Did God ever tempt you to keep a pagan gluttonous ritual in mid-winter when His son was born in the Spring ,since shepherds in the Holy Land do not sit around in the fields in Winter , their herds being all inside too?

Do shepherds not sit around in fields in the Spring when all lambs are born , even the Lamb of God ?

Where does scripture tell anyone to keep birthdays , let alone keep them on the wrng day at the wrong time of year by a pagan fertility rite , when Jesus never ever had a birthday celebration in his lifetime, let alone commanded anyone to keep it , and even trample on the day he set for celebartion of his death too ?

Is this not heaping judgement upon your brothers and sisters that you do not know very well?

Can there be any judgment in a question, is that not the beauty of this thread that they are ONLY questions ? Is judgment then only by oneself of oneself if one knows the answer to the question?

Are we not allowed to express Joy and Love?

Has God not set times for celebration of Him, holy days that men trample on in preference of pagan rites ?

Is it not the place of the Spirit to pinch our consciences?

Is the conscience of those who remain in sin not dead , gagged?

Are God's arrows in scripture not sharp enough to penetrate the strongest denial though ?

 

[stranger]

Would anyone like an eggnog?

Is not egg liable to all manner of nasty infectious agents these days, not safe to take raw ?

 

[stranger]

Does the stranger among us draw his bible like a gun?

Is it my bible , or everyones?

Does it not fire God's arrows against our lack of consciences , not bullets [Psalms 45:5 Thine arrows, are sharp—Peoples, under thee, fall! In the heart of the foes of the king.] ?

 

[stranger]

Do you like rum and a dash of nutmeg in your eggnog?

Are you trying to make us all sick? Or just trying to distract us by known temptations of Satan , all empty of any lasting value, from the evil of yearly Xmas paganism ?

 

[D.W.Washburn]

Don't you know that I have pasteurized eggnog? Or are you allergic to nutmeg? Or is it the rum that makes you sick?

How many questions was that? Three?

 

[stranger]

Don't you know that I have pasteurized eggnog? Or are you allergic to nutmeg? Or is it the rum that makes you sick?

How many questions was that? Three?

Is it not five questions?

Is there any limit except time?

Can one pasteurise egg nog without it turning into scrambled egg?

Does over-indulgence not make one sick even before capping it with unpasteurised egg nog with all the options too ?

Is that not five questions too?

 

[GuardianShua]

Do you like rum and a dash of nutmeg in your eggnog?

Your a good egg, nog, or are you?

 

[karen freeinchristman]

Did God ever tempt you to keep a pagan gluttonous ritual in mid-winter when His son was born in the Spring ,since shepherds in the Holy Land do not sit around in the fields in Winter , their herds being all inside too?

This is a good question, isn't it?

Do shepherds not sit around in fields in the Spring when all lambs are born , even the Lamb of God ?

Have you ever wondered why Jesus is called the Lamb of God when lambs weren't ever used as Sin offerings?

Where does scripture tell anyone to keep birthdays , let alone keep them on the wrng day at the wrong time of year by a pagan fertility rite , when Jesus never ever had a birthday celebration in his lifetime, let alone commanded anyone to keep it , and even trample on the day he set for celebartion of his death too ?

Do not humans do many things that are not prescribed in Scripture? Regarding birthdays, is it not the case that people nowadays do not associate their celebration with anything Pagan? How do you know Jesus never ever had a birthday celebration? Would it surprise you to know that many Christians agree with you regarding both Christmas and Easter?

Can there be any judgment in a question, is that not the beauty of this thread that they are ONLY questions ? Is judgment then only by oneself of oneself if one knows the answer to the question?

Do you believe it is possible to promote our own agendas within the framework of a question? Do you think that you and I might both be doing so? As an aside, who among us can say they know the mind of God?

Has God not set times for celebration of Him, holy days that men trample on in preference of pagan rites ?

Should not each day, yes even each minute, be considered holy to the Christian?

Is the conscience of those who remain in sin not dead , gagged?

Perhaps, but did you realise I was referring to those who have accepted the grace of God in their lives through faith in Jesus Christ and as such have been released from the guilt of their sin and given the Holy Spirit?

Are God's arrows in scripture not sharp enough to penetrate the strongest denial though ?

And the power of the Holy Spirit?

 

[stranger]

Your a good egg, nog, or are you?

Did I not warn you not to drink that stuff ?

 

[Gukkor]

Is keeping pagan ritual alive not a serious matter , as men worldwide trample on God's holy rituals and days , and keep, IN PLACE OF God's memorial days , the ritual celebrations and rites of gods they do not even worship openly ?

If they do not worship or believe in the god that the celebration was originally dedicated to, and the personal meaning of the celebration for the person in question is not pagan (or even religious, in some cases) in nature, can it even be said to be the same holiday? Does ritual hold any power of its own apart from the meaning that one attaches to it?

Is God not a serious matter to consider , a cause of much pain and sorrow and soul-searching in giving up sin in true repentance , before one can rejoice in Him through trial to perfection of one's love?

There can be no doubt of this, but at the same time, is there no room in one's life for fun and enjoyment outside of such matters?

Is not their only meaning in the Babylonian astrological paganism... ? If men celebrate pagan days. Yet corrupt God's holy days , do they not offend God by worshipping ,however poorly, by pagan ritual , yet ignoring the ritual God set as memorials to men for all time?

If they love God in their hearts and bear the fruits of the Spirit in their lives, do you really think God cares what holidays they celebrate?

Why would any saint celebrate Xmas gluttony as the poor continue to starve in the world and churches of human sinners do not stop it , do not even share their food as they hypocritically say 'good will to ALL men' on Xmas day as another 50,000 little kids die on that same day they stuff their faces and give gifts none of them actually need ...?

Aren't you overstepping your bounds by making such broad, harsh generalizations about millions of people that you do not know? Why do the specks in their eyes concern you so when you have a plank of your own to tend to?

Did God ever give any such instruction? Was it not the Babylonian magi who claimed importance of one's day of birth as determining one's life , a truly deep pagan astrological belief never held by any Hebrew or Christian saint or by Jesus?

Did I ever say that the day of one's birth determined one's life? Moreover, since when has God ever told anyone NOT to give thanks to Him for or celebrate because of a gift He has bestowed upon them?

Did God not show through the prophets that it is how we die that matters?

Are you then saying that the gift of this life which God has given you is irrelevant and not worth celebrating? Would this not a supremely ungrateful way of viewing life? Does the fact that the manner of one's death is important somehow render everything that precedes it, birth included, completely meaningless? Additionally, does death not lead to the birth of new life, and does this not mean that birth and death are both significant events?

Ecclesiastes 7:1?

Is this not the same chapter in which Solomon, the man with 700 wives, declares women to be "more bitter than death?" Is this not rather at odds with the feelings expressed in Song of Songs, and does this not show that Solomon's views at the time may have been skewed by his personal experiences (and failings) and the stage of life which he was experiencing?

 

[GuardianShua]

Is the truth stranger than fiction? Why do so many reject it? Is it because it is ugly to them? And is it because it is rough and not a smooth thing?

 

[stranger]

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This is a good question, isn't it?

Is it not written so?

Have you ever wondered why Jesus is called the Lamb of God when lambs weren't ever used as Sin offerings?

Are not both cherubs for a sin offering most perfect to God , the one set free a while in this wilderness the other dead and risen already ,accepted ?

Is the face of a cherub not like that of the bullock?

can one not compare these ? :-
Ezekiel 1:10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.
...
Ezekiel 10:14 And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of a cherub, and the second face was the face of a man, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.
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Ezekiel 41:19 So that the face of a man was toward the palm tree on the one side, and the face of a young lion toward the palm tree on the other side: it was made through all the house round about. ?

Do not humans do many things that are not prescribed in Scripture?

Is there not much more pain in the end because men, even Israel, do not obey the wisdom, set down by God i writing for men to read ?

Does God not say so?

Do men listen yet , or need to suffer terribly first before they tun to follow the Lamb and stop the continual sinning and trampling upon what God has said is holy to Him ?

Can a man please God by sin all his life?

Is death not freedom from sin as good as grace, so men can start again?

Regarding birthdays, is it not the case that people nowadays do not associate their celebration with anything Pagan?

Would they not notice the pagan spirit 'faeries' , spirits symbolised in the lights within the tree , the idol atop the tree, spirits which keep it evergreen through the winter to emerge in the spring to bring life back to the ground ... the evergreen holly and mistletoe , the kiss of the fertility rite , the celebration of many false gods which men of old held in awe not knowing if the harvest would come if they did not worship in midwinter , the peak of death of the ground , bar the evergreens ?

Did God not show the worship false by His son being born of the spirit of His truth, not at the time of this pagan worship ,but at the time when the world comes to life through Him, not pagan spirits?

Is it not then worth understanding God's plan through memorial days set by Him for all time, to know the future thereby ad live in peace of faith in His plan, to celebrate Him, not the dead gods of old ...?

Why celebrate dead gods? Why will people keep them alive by worshipping them still although many do not believe them much these days ? Why trample on God's memorial holy days ? Why anger the living God by not doing what he says , but keeping days of dead gods in place of His days?

How do you know Jesus never ever had a birthday celebration?

Have you never looked at the tradition of the Jews of His time?

Have you ever seen any mention of a 'birthday' in scripture?

Was it not only Babylonians who brought presents to the toddler Jesus ?

Does the bible not condemn the giving of presents as being a 'bribe' to curry favour ?

Would it surprise you to know that many Christians agree with you regarding both Christmas and Easter?

Is it not so that a few do see through the lies of the churches against God's written word and recognise the handiwork of Satan, but very few indeed manage to reprove to ALL the scripture?

Is it not true that Jesus said that we can only live by EVERY word of God?

Is the scripture not given for us to reprove to the unique word of God and throw out the words of sinners in divided religion of paganised religious tradition of men?

Will united religion eventually unite in God's truth , or as God says rather in the power of the wily persuasions of Satan's religion with his as the 'christ' [Rev 13:3-8] ....bar only a very few who cling to the vision of the true Christ in scripture, messiah of Israel [Matt 7:14. Rev 7:3-8, etc] ?

Do you believe it is possible to promote our own agendas within the framework of a question?

Do you believe it is possible to promote God's guaranteed single unique agenda in scripture by questions alone based upon His words , or is the power of Satan through persuasion of false beliefs by religion in this world's tradition already far too strong, so no-one has the ears to hear any longer?

Do you think that you and I might both be doing so?

Do you not think that everyone has yet ,for a short while longer before the antichrist reigns supreme in the earth, the right to ask valid questions about the words of God ? Is it even possible that Satan can stop us asking as well as stopping most from hearing ?

do the questions not raise our consciences to review the terrible life of sin we lead against our own world , destroying it by what we are still told is 'progress' ? Does that give us life abundantly to slave for nothing of value in the end, to destroy the earth for ourselves and our children in the name of only brief moments of empty pleasures?

Or is there more to this? I snot the truth of God that He created evil for His purpose and is equally committed through love to redeem His creation from the task He made us for ?

As an aside, who among us can say they know the mind of God?

Do we not know the mind of God through love, as Jesus showed us Him through love?

Do the saints not know the mind of God through their love and the spirit sent them through Jesus Christ's sacrifice of unjust death ?

Did the saints and prophets of God not write the words of Gods insofar as they can be written ?

Should not each day, yes even each minute, be considered holy to the Christian?

Did not God set Adam and Eve to toil in the earth six days of the week , and set the sabbath alone holy to Him ?

Have many not learnt from sinners much of what you believe, not from the saints and prophets of God alone , whilst awaiting the spirit of truth impatiently ?

Is it not God who says what is holy to Him and sets it APART from the days and rituals of paganism , so how could all days be holy when God has said which days are holy memorials for all time ?

Perhaps, but did you realise I was referring to those who have accepted the grace of God in their lives through faith in Jesus Christ

Dio you have it backwards according to scripture? Is not the grace of God GIVEN in this world only to the few whose fathers broke the old covenant [Heb 8:8-9]?

Are they not taken [Heb 8:8-12] by His spirit to be His spirit because God's prophecy cannot fail [Ex 19:6] to be the perfect priesthood in the kingdom where afterward the many [Rev 7:9-10] are also then redeemed in the new earth ?

Is it then not teachings of sinners, soothsayings contrary to scripture due to Satan's great power through religion [that simply cannot be One truth because of division alone], to presume that everyone is under grace , since God has never said so, nor does such a thing fit His written plan, since the few must be first to be able to serve the many after the second resurrection, else Jesus would not save any sinners but the few who find the narrow strait way in this earth ?

and as such have been released from the guilt of their sin and given the Holy Spirit?

Do not soothsayings silence the consciences of men against continual sin ? But did you not notice that it is sinners who teach such things, twisting the teachings of scriptures beyond recognition that it is ONE whole truth of God , picking its to distort here and there through 'hermeneutics' , never INTEGRATING the whole into the ONE truth it MUST be ?

Do men then only hear the bits they like to hear and never read the bits which would open up their hearts to love God, pleasing Him as He says by keeping what is holy to Him and ceasing from all sin , not continuing in sin ,so grace is mocked , as the MANY do already , but not the FEW who are saints, no longer sinners ...?

And the power of the Holy Spirit?

Yay, indeed, but does not the scripture say explicitly the ancestry of the few whom God has said will be the only ones first to receive the spirit [in this earth] [Rev 7:3-8] according to his ancient promises handed down through generations of Hebrews , not to all, but to the sons of God , the remnant few ?

Yet also has He not promised to baptise all men [Joel 2:28] , yet we KNOW that most men, even most 'cristian sinners' ,die sinners, not saints, unbaptised of spirit and 'fire' to come to know all truth in THIS life as promised to ALL who follow Jesus [John 16:13] ?

Is this scripture not then the foundation of God? Is not sin the opposite of love , the sinner not an unblemished sacrifice to God ?
...the sinner incapable of obeying Jesus as Lord , so he will reject all sinners at his return, as he says he will [Matt 7] :-

2 Timothy 2:19 "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."

Luke 13:27 "But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity."
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Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
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[stranger]

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If they do not worship or believe in the god that the celebration was originally dedicated to, and the personal meaning of the celebration for the person in question is not pagan (or even religious, in some cases) in nature, can it even be said to be the same holiday? Does ritual hold any power of its own apart from the meaning that one attaches to it?

Why would men keep empty days, yet not keep the days of the power of holy blessing from God?

Is not then the power of Satan in sinners keeping empty days simply to hold men from the blessing of hearing and seeing the truth in God's words offered only to those who please Him by Keeping holy his days?

There can be no doubt of this, but at the same time, is there no room in one's life for fun and enjoyment outside of such matters?

What 'fun' is it to celebrate aught but the glory of God? Will not passing trinkets of brief addictive pleasures that keep sinners, addicted servants of Satan, from knowing the lasting bliss of peace in Him through perfect love awhile, as God says ?

If they love God in their hearts and bear the fruits of the Spirit in their lives, do you really think God cares what holidays they celebrate?

Has God not written by the words of His prophets what pleases Him and commanded the few to please Him alone, not serve Satan in any way? Has God not said that He requires some few men to please Him , to worship Him in spirit and in deed in even this evil world controlled by Satan?

Do sinners even know this that God has said, or are their beliefs taken from what other sinners have taught in place of God [V.F.D] [blasphemy] ?

Did God not say that he will teach all men Himself , eventually , but only a few in this world who thus find the straight narrow way [Matt 7:14] of sainthood now?

Aren't you overstepping your bounds by making such broad, harsh generalizations about millions of people that you do not know?

Did you not read that it is scripture of God's words , not I, that makes these broad harsh statements about the continual sin of billions, not just millions ,of people in this world ? That only few are given to hear now , only about one in a million?

Do you think following the herd of sinners and their religions taught by sinners is better than following the few saints and prophets of God?

Why do the specks in their eyes concern you so when you have a plank of your own to tend to?

Am I not concerned only with specks and planks in my own eyes , do you not err gravely if you think that I do any more than ask questions without any judgement at all from myself of any man, not even of Satan himself ?

Am I not then simply asking questions that others may judge themselves, not by my words, but by those of God in his scriptures and by the consciences God gave us all that we ignore, but which His words can arouse us to consider the pain we cause by our sin against others and Him ,like arrows fastened incredibly tightly in our flesh ?

Did I ever say that the day of one's birth determined one's life?

Was it not the Babylonian astrologers who said so, and you follow them blindly by the power of emptiness of men's tradition , not even knowing why you did it , that it was they who made you do so, even causing you to give presents against God's written will , angering Him ?

Moreover, since when has God ever told anyone NOT to give thanks to Him for or celebrate because of a gift He has bestowed upon them?

Do you not know the difference between the gifts of God which enlighten and the gifts of Satan which enslave and corrupt men?
Proverbs 15:27, Ezekiel 16:33, Romans 11:29,Revelation 11:10,Proverbs 17:23, etc]?

Are you then saying that the gift of this life which God has given you is irrelevant and not worth celebrating?

Do you not know from scripture that God has more use for all lives than you know the wot of , even the life of Satan which you foolishly perhaps despise in your blindness set upon you of God [2Thess 2, Romans 14:7-9] ?

Would this not a supremely ungrateful way of viewing life?

Can a man rejoice in suffering before he knows all truth of God , and is his rejoicing not the greater for having suffered baptism of fire for sake of the love of God and the love thus of ALL creation
[Ecclesiastes 7:2 ] ?

Does the fact that the manner of one's death is important somehow render everything that precedes it, birth included, completely meaningless?

Can one have death without life? ....but is death not the wages of sin? Is it not inessential for all men to die who believe in God ? Was not Enoch and 23 other elders taken from life not to see death at all?

Is an evil life of sin,, following the herd even in apostate religion, not the very purpose of God for most men in this earth, to snare Satan first, take him out of the way, to trap him into confessing blasphemy [2thess 2:4] and secure his rightful death under God's law ?

Additionally, does death not lead to the birth of new life, and does this not mean that birth and death are both significant events?

Does God anywhere in scripture regard birth as of any great significance to men in general apart from the symbolic 'birth' of Jesus from Israel through the continuing birth pains of that nation in its trial by fire at God's hands ?[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Did God anywhere describe any holy day celebrating even the birth of Jesus , or did He only prescribe the celebration of his death for ONLY those saints worthy to follow him, a day which Satan also has corrupted to worship of Istar and giving a lie to Jesus' prophesy that he would be in the tomb three nights [sign of Jonah/Jonas] ... so thus most men even pollute the name of Jesus, the triumph of his death, every year and every week in churches worldwide, by instruction of Satan through religion, but according to God's will nonetheless...?

Does Death not even have any sting any longer because of resurrection, so that the day of one's death is only of significance because one cannot perfect love in death, but only in life?

Do you continue arguing against God's words simply because you do not want to change to what He says, but prefer to follow the ways of many men , for company , or because you have not yet read and understood them all before rushing to declare your faith in something , no matter if you know what ?

Is this not the same chapter in which Solomon, the man with 700 wives, declares women to be "more bitter than death?"

Have you never seen the claws of jealousy of women who share one husband ? Have you never seen the claws of jealousy of many religions that try to share one God ?

Is this not rather at odds with the feelings expressed in Song of Songs, and does this not show that Solomon's views at the time may have been skewed by his personal experiences (and failings) and the stage of life which he was experiencing?

Did you not then yet read the meanings explained in scripture of the symbols used in God's own poetry ?

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[stranger]

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Is the truth stranger than fiction? Why do so many reject it? Is it because it is ugly to them? And is it because it is rough and not a smooth thing?[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]

Is it not because Satan is wily at persuading men of his version of the 'good life' and 'progress' and men think it is fun to ignore their consciences and flout God to his face , just like unruly teenagers do to their parents in feeling their freedom to sin ?

Is it not then that men easily give up their freedom to love given at birth, in order to follow other men through false presumptions that life depends on other men and on the 'knowledge' of sinners who presume to teach men in place of God in the name of Satan ?

Can men escape sin, or even face their own consciences after once denying God's truth given in knowledge of good and evil at birth, so that no man is innocent, we all KNOW when we first sin, but cannot escape sin until God or death frees us ? [/FONT]

 

[karen freeinchristman]

Anyone thirsty?
Anyone hungry?

 

[.Sabre.]

Is it possible to keep people from annoying you?