Should soldiers who believe in God be denied weapons?

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You know, most wars are fought for economic gain. Very few wars have purely religious and ideological basis.

The Crusades had a lot more to do with Seljuqs invading E. Europe and Europe still suffering from the memory of the Berber invasions of Spain...

But details shmetails, right?

If you want to get into the business of 'ideological murder' we can look also at what Communists did to Christians and Buddhists throughout the world. It is not pretty, either.
 
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Sure, it will make it easier for us Atheists to take over.
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It is a lovely idea, but I don't see it as being practical. There would always be someone that says God wanted them to have a weapon to kill the 'evil'. Evil being defined as anything the said person hates.
 
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Sure, it will make it easier for us Atheists to take over.
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It is a lovely idea, but I don't see it as being practical. There would always be someone that says God wanted them to have a weapon to kill the 'evil'. Evil being defined as anything the said person hates.

Actually atheists have killed more people in the past hundred years than Christians could ever dream of. From Stalin to Pol Pot to Mao Communism takes the cake when it comes to mass killing. For some reason they seem to like using starvation to kill, its an odd tangent.
 
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Guns don't kill people.

Not my point. When have soldiers ever declared war? It is politicians, usually with support from the citizenry in democratic nations, that start wars.


eudaimonia,

Mark
 
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Not my point. When have soldiers ever declared war? It is politicians, usually with support from the citizenry in democratic nations, that start wars.


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The wars America are fighting do not have the citizen's support. They should end or we should say its for the oil and take it. This occupation with nebulous exit conditions is killing and maiming the flower of our youth.
 
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The wars America are fighting do not have the citizen's support.

The Iraqi war was very popular towards the beginning.

They should end or we should say its for the oil and take it. This occupation with nebulous exit conditions is killing and maiming the flower of our youth.

You are preaching to the choir. I was against the Iraqi war from the start.


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Sure, it will make it easier for us Atheists to take over.
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It is a lovely idea, but I don't see it as being practical. There would always be someone that says God wanted them to have a weapon to kill the 'evil'. Evil being defined as anything the said person hates.

Or an atheist trying to get rid of the poison of religion.

Ever hear of any of those crazy guys like Pol Pot or Stalin? :thumbsup:

What's so special about the ones who believe in God?

It'd be nice if they *all* put down their weapons and had a chat instead.

Haha, because we never try that, right?

The day that we can achieve peace through conversation is the day that there is nothing worth fighting for anymore. :preach:
 
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Bout as often as I hear about the inquisition and hitler!

Cool -- the Inquisition was a tool that was more often used against other Christians than any other group and it was certainly a product of its time.

Hitler was also privately an atheist by all accuonts and even attempted to create a new religion based around Wotan. Check out the sort of events that happened at Wewelsburg castle.
 
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The day that we can achieve peace through conversation is the day that there is nothing worth fighting for anymore. :preach:

Just because somethings are worth fighting for, that doesn't mean that fighting must take place. The point of discussion is to find constructive solutions.


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Cool -- the Inquisition was a tool that was more often used against other Christians than any other group and it was certainly a product of its time.

Hitler was also privately an atheist by all accuonts and even attempted to create a new religion based around Wotan. Check out the sort of events that happened at Wewelsburg castle.

Really now? He certainly claimed to be christian often enough.
 
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Cool -- the Inquisition was a tool that was more often used against other Christians than any other group and it was certainly a product of its time.

Hitler was also privately an atheist by all accuonts and even attempted to create a new religion based around Wotan. Check out the sort of events that happened at Wewelsburg castle.

Is the implication here that atheists attempting to be rid of religion was NOT a product of its time?


Also, yes, the fact the Inquisition was used against other Christians clearly makes it much less insane than it being used against non Christians!
 
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