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Should Secession be an option?
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<blockquote data-quote="Nilloc" data-source="post: 62040528" data-attributes="member: 180825"><p>I have no desire to create another state (here I am defining 'state' as a territorial monopoly of violence). The governments in the U.S. have no right to things like roads, since they paid for those with stolen money. Now if they would change, using only voluntary payments (thus downsizing themselves), they could hold legitimate property.</p><p></p><p>Not everyone thought that having women and blacks as property was immoral. Not everyone thought that killing heretics and people of different religions was immoral. To this day there are people who deny that Selective Service is slavery, that collateral damage is murder, that eminent domain is theft, etc. Thankfully, most recognize my first two examples for what they are. I'm confident that one day, probably long after I'm gone, people will see the state for what it is too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nilloc, post: 62040528, member: 180825"] I have no desire to create another state (here I am defining 'state' as a territorial monopoly of violence). The governments in the U.S. have no right to things like roads, since they paid for those with stolen money. Now if they would change, using only voluntary payments (thus downsizing themselves), they could hold legitimate property. Not everyone thought that having women and blacks as property was immoral. Not everyone thought that killing heretics and people of different religions was immoral. To this day there are people who deny that Selective Service is slavery, that collateral damage is murder, that eminent domain is theft, etc. Thankfully, most recognize my first two examples for what they are. I'm confident that one day, probably long after I'm gone, people will see the state for what it is too. [/QUOTE]
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