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Should Secession be an option?
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<blockquote data-quote="Caesars Ghost" data-source="post: 62035636"><p>It's usually pursued by angst driven people and by those unfamiliar with the Constitution. </p><p>Article III Section 2 that relates to Sovereign Immunity in two parts. On the level of immunity of Federal officials and the Federal government. The division of powers in that regard is described in the 11th amendment. </p><p>So much for expecting others to do the work. *sigh* lol</p><p></p><p>It's what Scalia based his remarks on in the prior linked letter. It is also what was implied when he said if anything was decided by the Civil War it was that secession was unlawful. Though the decision was rendered after the war in 74 U.S. 700 Texas v. White.</p><p></p><p> And it has always been what is meant by the stanza in the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag <strong>and</strong> the United States of America, in the reference<em> "indivisible". </em>(Not divisible; unable to be divided or separated.)</p><p></p><p>Though many fail to comprehend what the pledge is or what it means or how it relates to the USC. </p><p>Mores the pity. </p><p>I blame public school education. And the desire by some to be contentious. </p><p></p><p>Also, I would agree with you about exploitative secession groups preying on the gullible, the naive and the angst ridden. </p><p>Especially given this second term of Obama now about to be reaffirmed in January. I imagine there will be a push like none before. <em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Christian Exodus</em>, is one of those type groups you mentioned. Their motto: Forsake the Empire, Seek the Kingdom. </p><p>Their intent to move Christian Constitutionalists to South Carolina and begin a territory self-governed on Godly principles. Though they've been extant since 2003, so their impetus was clearly not contention regarding the Obama Administration. </p><p></p><p>Those type groups that have a tax exempt status would be especially amusing given their platform. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/old/kawaii.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="^_^" title="Kawaii ^_^" data-shortname="^_^" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Caesars Ghost, post: 62035636"] It's usually pursued by angst driven people and by those unfamiliar with the Constitution. Article III Section 2 that relates to Sovereign Immunity in two parts. On the level of immunity of Federal officials and the Federal government. The division of powers in that regard is described in the 11th amendment. So much for expecting others to do the work. *sigh* lol It's what Scalia based his remarks on in the prior linked letter. It is also what was implied when he said if anything was decided by the Civil War it was that secession was unlawful. Though the decision was rendered after the war in 74 U.S. 700 Texas v. White. And it has always been what is meant by the stanza in the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag [B]and[/B] the United States of America, in the reference[I] "indivisible". [/I](Not divisible; unable to be divided or separated.) Though many fail to comprehend what the pledge is or what it means or how it relates to the USC. Mores the pity. I blame public school education. And the desire by some to be contentious. Also, I would agree with you about exploitative secession groups preying on the gullible, the naive and the angst ridden. Especially given this second term of Obama now about to be reaffirmed in January. I imagine there will be a push like none before. [I] Christian Exodus[/I], is one of those type groups you mentioned. Their motto: Forsake the Empire, Seek the Kingdom. Their intent to move Christian Constitutionalists to South Carolina and begin a territory self-governed on Godly principles. Though they've been extant since 2003, so their impetus was clearly not contention regarding the Obama Administration. Those type groups that have a tax exempt status would be especially amusing given their platform. ^_^ [/QUOTE]
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