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but it would be tougher to try to ban abortion this is a secular society, as such right is not always the same as the Bible.Opposition to abortion isn't about "what's easier?". If we wanted what was easy, we'd be supporting abortion, not opposing it. This is about what's right, and what's right is to put an end to all abortion.
Well very few people are always conservive or liberal on all issues.I think it should be noted that it isn't just conservative Christians who oppose abortion. There are also liberal Christians like myself who oppose abortion and there are non-Christians who oppose abortion.
I'm not afraid of a challenge.Go luck getting it note seventeen amendments ( after the bill of rights) and of those only one has been overturned and that one involved giving a right back.
Opposition to abortion isn't about "what's easier?". If we wanted what was easy, we'd be supporting abortion, not opposing it. This is about what's right, and what's right is to put an end to all abortion.
It is not mockery. It would not be the first time a ruling would be overturned. One big one would be Brown V board of education which overturned separate but equal.No. If there is really a movement to ban abortions, then they can get a Constitutional Amendment passed to outlaw it instead fo relying on judicial activism and making a mockery of the rule of law.
You may not be, but you cannot do it alone. There is a reason that very few amendments have been passed. This is a secular society so God nor the Bible is the rule of law (thank goodness).I'm not afraid of a challenge.
not all people feel that abortion ( especially in the early stages are children.Personally speaking, opposing abortion isn't an entirely religious issue for me. I've shared my position once before in another thread, but I thought I would share it here since I started this thread.
I don't support abortion. I literally can't as a mother of nine children and as a social justice and political activist. I've dedicated almost thirty years of my life to being a voice for the marginalized, the helpless and the vulnerable. And in my heart, that is what unborn children are.
And for me personally, opposing abortion, even ending legalized abortion, isn't about punishing the women who have had abortion. It's about saving the lives of the unborn. It's about being their voice and defending their life. I've defended the lives and the rights of Native Americans, other minorities, LGBT, the poor, the disabled, single mothers, battered women, women's rights to be treated equally to men, orphans, and abused children. I wouldn't be morally consistent if I didn't defend the lives of the unborn too. I want to help women who feel they have no other choice than to abort their unborn child. And I have done that in the past. I don't want to hurt or punish anyone for their choices. I just want to help people and I've spent the majority of my life doing that. I can't turn my back on unborn children.
You may not be, but you cannot do it alone. There is a reason that very few amendments have been passed. This is a secular society so God nor the Bible is the rule of law (thank goodness).
but not all people consider unborn children to be children ( especially in early stages).You're correct. America isn't a Christian nation or a Christian theocracy, but it is nation that has legalized taking the life of the innocent and most vulnerable among us, an unborn child.
not all people feel that abortion ( especially in the early stages are children.
OH I thought you were saying that you opposed abortion because of it being unborn child and since not all people agree with that, so that would not be something that for everyone would be a reason to outlaw abortion.I never said all people did. I was speaking for myself and only for myself.
As you surely know, truth isn't dictated by public opinion or subjective morality. There are those who say that the earth is flat, and others who say that it is a globe, and simply holding their respective opinions does not make them right. One of them is factual, however, and we can refer to it as such. And so, when we say that America has legislated the genocide of the unborn, we are strictly speaking factually, regardless of how others feel about that statement.but not all people consider unborn children to be children ( especially in early stages).
Which took decades and multiple cases to show that separate but equal wasn't workable. People aren't relying on new legal arguments to try to overrule Roe. Instead, they are counting on it being overturned due to the Justices' personal opposition to it.It is not mockery. It would not be the first time a ruling would be overturned. One big one would be Brown V board of education which overturned separate but equal.
but not all people consider unborn children to be children ( especially in early stages).
There's those like me who count on it being overturned because it is grossly immoral, just as slavery (as we referred to it back then) eventually found itself being written out of this country's legal existence for the same reason. Here's to hoping that the new slavery of abortion- which dehumanizes the unborn to the level of property (or worse)- is eradicated before Jesus comes again.Which took decades and multiple cases to show that separate but equal wasn't workable. People aren't relying on new legal arguments to try to overrule Roe. Instead, they are counting on it being overturned due to the Justices' personal opposition to it.
I think of it like this: If there's a way to effectuate my agenda using the Constitution, that's fine. Glad to do it.You may not be, but you cannot do it alone. There is a reason that very few amendments have been passed. This is a secular society so God nor the Bible is the rule of law (thank goodness).
But going back to my first paragraph, elective abortions should be banned. Don't stop there like the Republicans would in typical Republican fashion. We must then make adoptions astronomically easier and cheaper because as things stand it's a pathetic system. Women should receive free childcare so they can work. It's again a pathetic system that is unaffordable. The minimum wage should be at least $15/hour. People can't afford to live off the current minimum wage, let alone raise children on it. Healthcare should be free. College tuition should be astronomically cheaper or made free. Rent should be capped and made astronomically cheaper. Tax the daylights out of the rich, greedy Republicans making things impossible for so many people. If women can make a living wage, if they and their children can have healthcare that won't take half of their earnings, if they can have a roof over their heads, if they can send their children to daycare without it costing the second half of their paycheck healthcare would, and if they and their kids can continue their education, people wanting abortions would drop dramatically overnight. If women still don't want their babies, adoption will have been made easy-peasy.
At least you didn't say "thank God", because that would have been the greatest slap in the face you could have handed to Him with that sentence. "Thank You that we aren't ruled by You!"This is a secular society so God nor the Bible is the rule of law (thank goodness).
Do the women and their doctors have the right to decide what should be done with the baby?The decision to go through with a pregnancy or to abort should be left to women and their doctors. I have no right to decide that for them.
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