Should Rabbits and Eggs Be Part of Easter?

[Oblio]

I have a pet bee

 

[Iollain]

Honestly, it's comments such as the above that make me want to become an Orthdox...the ignorance about what Catholics and Orthodox believe is just frightening.

On the other hand, we don't make decisions about God in the heat of anger.

Sometimes people don't know what it is that their church teaches, and will deny through ignorance what that is.

 

[Iollain]

We had a 'pet' snake that would bask in the sun on the concrete step by the door and sometimes would get into the mud room, it was quite jolting to the nervous system sometimes, he got run over the third year though.

 

[Oblio]

If I read about a foreign culture (e.g. Russia), watch National Geographic and the History Channel programs, take a few courses on the language, am I then qualified to say that I know more about them and what they believe than they themselves testify to ?

What many people do WRT the RCC and the EOC is no different that what Dan Brown or the Jesus Seminar does to Christianity.

 

[Iollain]

I'm talking about for instance, the RCC belief that Mary is the Mediatrix of Grace, now when i talk to RC's about here, they say it means that Mary is called so because she gave birth to Jesus who is the Giver of all Grace, then i look online at what other RCC and the Popes have said, they actually believe that Mary right now has all the grace and it is her decision where it goes. But the RCC will deny it is so........but then you look around and see differently.

 

[Iollain]

But yes Oblio, there is a lot of misunderstandings, you can either try to talk to people or you can forget it and not.

 

[Rdr Iakovos]

I'm talking about for instance, the RCC belief that Mary is the Mediatrix of Grace, now when i talk to RC's about here, they say it means that Mary is called so because she gave birth to Jesus who is the Giver of all Grace, then i look online at what other RCC and the Popes have said, they actually believe that Mary right now has all the grace and it is her decision where it goes. But the RCC will deny it is so........but then you look around and see differently.

I like chocolate bunnies, and I think they're fine to give out on 'Easter.' My kids don't pray to the bunnies, but they prey upon them.

That is, after all, the subject of this thread. I think there are other threads about Mary.

 

[Oblio]

Of course, it is Pascha we are talking about, I would prefer BBQd (YES, BBQ is a verb !) rabbit

 

[Iollain]

I like chocolate bunnies, and I think they're fine to give out on 'Easter.' My kids don't pray to the bunnies, but they prey upon them.

That is, after all, the subject of this thread. I think there are other threads about Mary.

Nice way to avoid where this conversation has gone without confronting anything, why didn't you say this to the others?

 

[katherine2001]

Personally, I want a BBQ Pork sandwich and a glass of sweet tea. Unfortunately, they don't know how to make good BBQ pork like they do in South Carolina. They don't make sweet tea either!

I guess I'll have to be satisfied with the roast lamb (a lady who owns a Greek restaurant will be doing that for us). I think we'll be having just about every kind of meat except rabbit!

 

[Rdr Iakovos]

Nice way to avoid where this conversation has gone without confronting anything, why didn't you say this to the others?

Hello:
I really cannot debate you about the Catholic position on Mary, being as neither one of us is Catholic.

As for why I responded to you, as opposed to others:
No particular reason, it was just time to get the thread which I had also waylaid back on topic.

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The egg makes sense to me as an Easter item, but the Easter ham has always made me wonder. Is this some kind of demonstration of freedom from Jewish dietary laws?

I will always prefer Paschal lamb over any other Easter selection.

 

[Iollain]

Hello:
I really cannot debate you about the Catholic position on Mary, being as neither one of us is Catholic.

As for why I responded to you, as opposed to others:
No particular reason, it was just time to get the thread which I had also waylaid back on topic.

~~

The egg makes sense to me as an Easter item, but the Easter ham has always made me wonder. Is this some kind of demonstration of freedom from Jewish dietary laws?

I will always prefer Paschal lamb over any other Easter selection.

I didn't want you to debate me, i was giving an example for Catlover.

I was just going to leave a link for ham at Easter but upon reading i realized that the pagan site thinks the pagans own everything including the moon and stars...so i won't leave that link.

found this one though

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maggieoh/Holidays/E/eindex.html#HISTORY


Easter Ham
Hundreds of years ago, people in England began eating ham on Easter Sunday. This is a common Easter dish all over the world. Ham comes from pigs. The pig is a symbol of good luck in many countries. To wish someone good luck in German is to say "Schwein haben." This means "have a pig." Germans used to believe that it was good luck to own a pig.

 

[Oblio]

The egg makes sense to me as an Easter item, but the Easter ham has always made me wonder. Is this some kind of demonstration of freedom from Jewish dietary laws?

I will always prefer Paschal lamb over any other Easter selection.

I think it is cultural more than anything. IIRC Fr. John Finley speaks of this in his interview Sacred Meals w/Father John Finleyon Our Life in Christ.

He gives a touching story of a black deacon who brought his Pascha basket to be blessed and Fr. asked him what was in it. His reply was, fried chicken of course . The point being that we bring those foods that we have been abstaining from in an offering to the Lord. Greeks with lamb, Ukrainians with sausage, Texans with beef ribs, St. Louisans with pork steaks ....

 

[Oblio]

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[Rdr Iakovos]

Thank you to Iollain and Oblio for those answers on the Easter ham (enigma).

What you said is point on, Oblio, for I realize that I have already made plans to make our favorite non-fast foods on the first two days of Bright Week (yes, we plan menu that far out at home. Six kids= administrative necessity).

It will be grilled burgers on kaiser rolls with Feta cheese on Monday, Pancakes and sausages Tuesday.

Look, I took the thread off-topic again. sheesh.

 

[Asinner]

Thank you to Iollain and Oblio for those answers on the Easter ham (enigma).

What you said is point on, Oblio, for I realize that I have already made plans to make our favorite non-fast foods on the first two days of Bright Week (yes, we plan menu that far out at home. Six kids= administrative necessity).

It will be grilled burgers on kaiser rolls with Feta cheese on Monday, Pancakes and sausages Tuesday.

Look, I took the thread off-topic again. sheesh.

lol! We are looking forward to grilling out and eating icecream . . .

As I have 5 children, I understand the need for planning; however, I am also quite proficient in making things up as we go . . .

God Bless

 

[Asinner]

Sorry for taking us further off topic . . .

Love them eggs and bunnies!

 

[Melethiel]

I think it is cultural more than anything. IIRC Fr. John Finley speaks of this in his interview Sacred Meals w/Father John Finleyon Our Life in Christ.

He gives a touching story of a black deacon who brought his Pascha basket to be blessed and Fr. asked him what was in it. His reply was, fried chicken of course . The point being that we bring those foods that we have been abstaining from in an offering to the Lord. Greeks with lamb, Ukrainians with sausage, Texans with beef ribs, St. Louisans with pork steaks ....

We had pork steaks at my house instead of sausage.

And Paska (easter bread).

 

[catlover]

I'm talking about for instance, the RCC belief that Mary is the Mediatrix of Grace, now when i talk to RC's about here, they say it means that Mary is called so because she gave birth to Jesus who is the Giver of all Grace, then i look online at what other RCC and the Popes have said, they actually believe that Mary right now has all the grace and it is her decision where it goes. But the RCC will deny it is so........but then you look around and see differently.

Venerations of Mary don't really bother me. My father came from a strict Polish Catholic family~most of my relatives houses had large Rosaries hanging on the wall. It honestly doesn't cause an issue for me. It's not for me, but it's interesting.

 

[catlover]

I didn't want you to debate me, i was giving an example for Catlover.

I was just going to leave a link for ham at Easter but upon reading i realized that the pagan site thinks the pagans own everything including the moon and stars...so i won't leave that link.

found this one though

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maggieoh/Holidays/E/eindex.html#HISTORY


Easter Ham
Hundreds of years ago, people in England began eating ham on Easter Sunday. This is a common Easter dish all over the world. Ham comes from pigs. The pig is a symbol of good luck in many countries. To wish someone good luck in German is to say "Schwein haben." This means "have a pig." Germans used to believe that it was good luck to own a pig.

I suppose if you owned a pig back then, it meant you and your family would eat for a year.

I was wondering why there is Easter ham when Jesus would have never eaten that. So ends my wondering! Thank-you, Iollian.