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Should I leave Christianity?

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Satan keeps trying to pull me away from God and the more I try to fight back and stay strong, the more powerful the thoughts get.I am ready to call it quits with God, I have done the unthinkable and God has turned away from me.

I feel awful for wanting these thoughts and feelings, like I am evil at heart.

So, should I stay with God, or leave? I'm probably not going to Heaven anymore anyway, so why stay?
 

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Proverbs 3:5-6
"Trust in the LORD with all your heart; and lean not to your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct your paths."

Psalm 9:10
"And they that know your name will put their trust in you: for you, LORD, have not forsaken them that seek you."

Psalms 31:24
"Be of good courage, and he shall strengthen your heart, all you that hope in the LORD."

Ask Heavenly Father God to help you. Ask him to have mercy on you for you are a sinner......

Dear Heavenly Father God, please help me and have mercy on me for I am a sinner. Please help me ignore these intrusive thoughts. Please purify me and cleanse me from all unrighteousness and blot out all my iniquities. Make me white as snow. Please guide my life according to your will, in Jesus Christ name I ask, Amen.

Don't limit God, you have OCD, God knows that. Heavenly Father God knows everything. Focus on praising God..... Don't focus on anxiety nor OCD. When you focus on the OCD, it will get worse.

Rebuke the intrusive thoughts and unclean spirits. If you believe it is your flesh and that it is your mind doing it, then rebuke and disown your flesh. Speak it outloud....Say "I rebuke and disown unrighteous thoughts and unclean spirits and I disown and rebuke my flesh. In the name and authority of Jesus Christ of Nazareth I pray, Amen!"

Pray everyday and find encouraging verses and read them outloud with your mouth. God's word is like a sword, it will pierce the intrusive thoughts when you say them outloud. Saying them outloud will help you. Jesus quoted scripture when he was tempted and once he quoted them, the devil departed.

Resist the devil and he will flee from you. You are getting caught up that you are condemned, just what the thoughts want. Don't let them overcome you, resist them.

Resist the urge to compulse. I've noticed this, once I start a compulsive act, it will go on for a long time often leading to other compulsions. But, once I resist the compulsion, it will stop and as a result, I stop compulsing. I know it's hard, but once you are able to resist the compulsions, even if they are thoughts, then you will be a lot better off.

Sing when the thoughts start. I start singing "Glory, praises, and blessings be to your name Heavenly Father God." Or, find a good Christian song you like and sing it.

Remember to speak outloud, it is very powerful that way.

:prayer: for you.
 
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If you leave, you will never be able to come back.

It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. (Hebrews 6:4-6)

If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," and again, "The Lord will judge his people." It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Hebrews 10:26-31)

I say, and I warn you sternly, this is no game you are playing. If you turn from Christ, you will not be able to turn back to him.

Christianity is not some pleasure cruise to heaven. You can either endure the trials, no matter how hard they get, or fall away to certain destruction.

"I feel awful for wanting these thoughts and feelings, like I am evil at heart."

I can sympathize with you, I know what it is like to have these thoughts and feelings, yet they confirm what I already know about myself, and I can say the same is true to you. You don't feel evil at heart because you have these thought and feelings, you ARE evil at heart, regardless of how you feel.

Please, turn away from these thoughts and attitudes, it is nothing but a pitty party that will end in utter ruin. This is not some game, not a time to be "angry" at God or yourself, but a time to seek mercy. Please, for the sake of your own soul, press onwards.

Would you rather deal with probabilities or absolutes?

If you turn now, there is no hope. If you seek mercy, it may be found. Don't be a fool and commit eternal suicide.

I am going to send you some sermons to listen to and I pray that they might open your eyes. Please, I beg you, don't let other people decide what to do for you.

Remember, Christ said to count the costs. The very fact that you made this thread gives almost certain proof that you have never been converted, never truly born again; for all of God's children will endure to the end. I am unable to say what you state is for sure, but I beg you,

"Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?" (2 Corinthians 13:5)

Here is what Christ said about being His disciple in Luke 14:25-35

Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple. And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.

"Suppose one of you wants to build a tower. Will he not first sit down and estimate the cost to see if he has enough money to complete it? For if he lays the foundation and is not able to finish it, everyone who sees it will ridicule him, saying, 'This fellow began to build and was not able to finish.'


"Or suppose a king is about to go to war against another king. Will he not first sit down and consider whether he is able with ten thousand men to oppose the one coming against him with twenty thousand? If he is not able, he will send a delegation while the other is still a long way off and will ask for terms of peace. In the same way, any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.


"Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is fit neither for the soil nor for the manure pile; it is thrown out.
"He who has ears to hear, let him hear."

You aren't saved because you have "accepted" Christ into your heart. You aren't saved because you said a prayer, walked an isle, signed a card, asked Jesus into your heart. If you are saved, it is because God has given you grace and allowed you to repent and have faith in His son.

I suggest you cast your feelings aside and see what the word of God says. Don't gamble with your eternal soul.

Read Jeremiah 17: 5/7/9/10/14

This is what the LORD says:
"Cursed is the one who trusts in man,
who depends on flesh for his strength
and whose heart turns away from the LORD.

"But blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD,
whose confidence is in him.

The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?

"I the LORD search the heart
and examine the mind,
to reward a man according to his conduct,
according to what his deeds deserve."

O LORD, the hope of Israel,
all who forsake you will be put to shame.
Those who turn away from you will be written in the dust
because they have forsaken the LORD,
the spring of living water.

Heal me, O LORD, and I will be healed;
save me and I will be saved,
for you are the one I praise.


One last verse I leave with you to consider,Jeramiah 32:40. It is a new covenant promise to all those who are born again.

"I will make an everlasting covenant with them that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; and I will put the fear of Me in their hearts so that they will not turn away from Me."

Meditate on this verse, does this describe you? By the title of this thread, and the fact that you are asking others if you should stay with Christianity would suggest that it doesn't. However, I am unable to make that judgment for you.

If this verse does describe you truly, than it is good evidence that you are saved.

If it does not describe you, then please do not try to convince yourself that this dose not apply to you. Don't deceive yourself. You cannot be saved at one moment and have hopes of heaven then do something terrible and lose salvation.

Please, I beg you, examine yourself. If you are lost, admit it frankly and seek mercy. Don't sit there and try to look for evidence that you are saved, you will only fool yourself to your disappointment. However, if you turn now, there might yet be hope.

Don't gamble with your eternal soul, this is not some game. You can choose to disregard this message to your own loss or you can heed it. Please, don't turn away from the only salvation possible.

I know what you are going through, the thoughts are simply unbearable at times and are a constant drone. I have spent nights on the floor writhing in agony because of them but you must resist.
 
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Pinkjess, there is a website you may have seen before, but if not I strongly recommend you read it along with some of the powerful testimonies of God's love and longsuffering with people.

www.net-burst.net/guilty/scrupulosity.htm

Sometimes dealing with OCD is so frustrating we do get so bogged down we can be tempted to think that radical things like leaving Chrisitanity or suicide or whatever would be preferable to this. I think we generally know we aren't and indeed, would never do that, but it's just our frustration talking, usually. I do, think,however, frustration over our relationship with the Lord and OCD can drive us to not being as close to the Lord as we would be otherwise cause it can cause pain when OCD gets mixed up with it. Hope I'm making sense here and not just rambling...;):hug:
 
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If you are born again their is nothing you could ever do to lose His love and Grace and salvation. It isnt about what you did anyway. It is about what Jesus did. anything else is frankly, Bull.

I happen to think He paid for your sin and failings as well as mine. If you are His, then you are OK. You can do nothing to fail.

and yes you can go away for a season and then come back. Remember the Prodigal son? You need not go away tho as all is already forgiven even before you made your mistake!
 
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Satan keeps trying to pull me away from God and the more I try to fight back and stay strong, the more powerful the thoughts get.

Hi Pinkjess,
It is okay to relax
It is okay to be weak
it is okay to make mistakes
it is okay to have fear or doubt
Jesus has you in His hand and He is not letting you go.

Romans 8
31What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

32He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


I am ready to call it quits with God, I have done the unthinkable and God has turned away from me.

I promise Jesus has not turned away from you.Jesus is our High Priest and our Mediator, our Inteccesor, He is touched by our infirmites and weaknesses.Jesus came to save and not condemn.
Jesus said , All that the Father has given Me will come to Me and he that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out.
So when a person comes to Jesus it is because Father God has given them to Jesus as a precious gift, and when they come Jesus will not cast them out.

I feel awful for wanting these thoughts and feelings, like I am evil at heart.

We can relax and come just as we are.We cannot fix ourselves anyway and that is why Jesus saves to the utter most.Look what Jesus says.

John 15:5

I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Revelation 21:5

And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.


So, should I stay with God, or leave? I'm probably not going to Heaven anymore anyway, so why stay?

Luke 4:18

The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,


Mathew 11

28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Jeremiah 29:11

For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.


Psalm 23


1The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. 6Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

Life with Jesus who is our Good Sheperd and Wonderful Counsellor is always so very very much better than without Him.Jesus gives us hope and keeps us safe and heals us.He will never let us out of His hand.:hug:

annrobert


 
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These are the verses I would like to share for today:

Joshua 1:9 (KJV)
Have I not commanded thee? Be strong and of good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

Proverbs 3:24-26 (KJV)

24) When thou liest down, thou shalt not be afraid: yea thou shalt lie down, and thy sleep shall be sweet.
25) Be not afraid of sudden fear, neither of the desolation of the wicked, when it cometh.
26) For the LORD shall be thy confidence, and shall keep thy foot from being taken.

I really needed to see/read/absorb these verses as I just started a new job and I'll be having a lot of responsibility- something I'm not so much used to, and I'm not trained in this field- but by reading these, I have hope that God is with me- I do not need to be afraid of failing or that I am not where I need to be.
God is with me.

That's the most comforting thing for me.
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You can overcome this I promise. I rememeber going thru my thoughts of judgment and said well I'm finished. Then I got the courege one day to laugh at my OCD. To make fun of it and to live with uncertiany. MY grammer is all screwed up lol. But I'm telling you there is a way God has to show you. Ya I still fight the thoughts once in a while. Mainly when I sin I think of it. But stay srong okay there is hope.
 
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Yes! Amen Dabro!!
Living with those stabbing, cruel feelings of uncertainty that this rotten disorder causes is the key that leads to our learning to manage it instead of letting it shove us around. I mock my OCD thoughts too. I usually try to one up them in their scare tactics and say things like "Really is that the best you can do - how bout this idea." For instance when my OCD had me obsessing that I might be turning into an athiest - I ended up saying things like. "Oh well I guess that by sometime next week I'll be carrying around signs with a bunch of other athiest activists that read things like, "god isn't real, Christians are living in a fairy tale world, etc." The statements are totally absurd and untrue but by fighting fire with fire I was able in this way to eventually extinguish the original fear.
I just want to tell you how much I appreciate your input on this forum. God is using you here in a powerful way. It's OK for you to hear this - because I'm giving the credit to God for this. I suspect that it's hard for you to hear praise - I understand that position.
Anyhow.... Great Post!
Mitzi

You can overcome this I promise. I rememeber going thru my thoughts of judgment and said well I'm finished. Then I got the courege one day to laugh at my OCD. To make fun of it and to live with uncertiany. MY grammer is all screwed up lol. But I'm telling you there is a way God has to show you. Ya I still fight the thoughts once in a while. Mainly when I sin I think of it. But stay srong okay there is hope.
 
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Yes this is true. It is God's work and He gets all the Glory. I'm no superman just someone who is blessed to say that I found out how tricky the disorder is. I've been in the Hostpital a couple days due to depression and I'm telling you that even I have to find help. We all endure this pain which will not compare to the Glory that will shine on us and thru us on the last day. I'm not the best Christian and wish I had that zeal for God when I first came to know Him. I struggle alot with lust and there are no excuses for me, I'm just at God's mercy and pray one day God will provide me with that person I can love the right and honest way. My thought's are with you.
 
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Hey Dabro,
I'm in prayer for the pain that you are in right now. Hold on... this too will pass.
I praise God that you praise Him even in the midst of this excruciating trial. It is indeed His spirit that gives any of us the strength to do so.
I think we've much more to fear when our attitude is that of: "Look what a great Christian I am, how great my faith is, how pure my life is etc."
"God.. please be merciful to me - a sinner!" is more intuned to who we really are.
Love you buddy!
Mitzi

Yes this is true. It is God's work and He gets all the Glory. I'm no superman just someone who is blessed to say that I found out how tricky the disorder is. I've been in the Hostpital a couple days due to depression and I'm telling you that even I have to find help. We all endure this pain which will not compare to the Glory that will shine on us and thru us on the last day. I'm not the best Christian and wish I had that zeal for God when I first came to know Him. I struggle alot with lust and there are no excuses for me, I'm just at God's mercy and pray one day God will provide me with that person I can love the right and honest way. My thought's are with you.
 
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Hi Pinkjess:
Satan keeps trying to pull me away from God and the more I try to fight back and stay strong, the more powerful the thoughts get.
Fighting OCD thoughts always makes them get worse. The pushing back against them gives them more muscle. This is something that everyone with OCD experiences.

I am ready to call it quits with God, I have done the unthinkable and God has turned away from me.

Baloney -Hogwash! This is only the symptom of avoidance that we all get with our OCD. ie. "It would be easier if I could just walk away from the whole thing, if I never knew about God in the first place, not ever have to think about Him or consider my position in relation to Him."
It's not that you really want to do this, it's just that the pain seems more than you can bear up under.

I feel awful for wanting these thoughts and feelings, like I am evil at heart.

See... it's not possible to "feel awful" about something that you really desire to do. And you can't feel evil for having a thought that you delight in. None of this could torture you if you didn't cherish your relationship with Him.

So, should I stay with God, or leave?

You know the answer to that question already.

I'm probably not going to Heaven anymore anyway, so why stay?

What do you mean by "probably"? Do you mean there's still a possibility that you will but you are having great doubts about that? This should come as no surprise to you... after all OCD is called: "The doubting disease", so it's main symptom will be doubt.

Stay on the forum and persevere, pray for God to help you to learn to manage this disorder and we will all be praying that too. No one here would ever give up on you. Imagine that! Imperfect humans with imperfect love, not giving up on you. Huh? Makes you wonder why you'd question the love of the One who loves with perfection.
The answer to that is OCD.
The perception that OCD gives you of God is false, it only feels real, but we must never measure who God is by human emotion. OCD tricks us through it's exaggerated anxiety, we have to learn to recognize it tactics.
We all need to hear from you again.
Please check in and let us know how you're doing.
Praying!
Mitzi
 
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