Should I eat breakfast or not?

[JonMiller]

It's probably being raised vegeterrian. What did my parents do to me

Just the thought of eating meat makes me sick.

JM
(I am fine with others around me doing it.)

 

[JonMiller]

Interestingly enough, all my siblings are meat eaters currently.

And my parents weren't anti-meat aphobes. My mom cooked meat for my siblings when they wanted it/etc.

JM

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Did the vegetarian thing for several years, but being raised an omnivore, one tends to default to what one got raised with.

Currently seriously considering becoming a "Breatharian".

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

But I could never eat just one!!!

BFA

P.S. It's good to "see" you again, Moriah!

LOL!!!
Good to "see" you too friend.

It comes from an old anorexic joke. "Of course I ate breakfast -- I had my cheerio!"

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

probably...... my answer would be the same if it were chicken, lamb, beef, lobster, alligator, etc... yeah I would taste it, and if it were good I would eat it all and ask for more.... but, that's just me...

As far as the main topic goes? Honoring hospitality takes precedence over dietary rules, no contest. Another sentient creature's feelings and our potential social relation bes far more important than whether it "follows the rules" or not.

In cases of non-mainstream dietary preferences, if someone invites you to dinner then just mention it casually. "Sure, would love to! You do know I'm vegan, though, right?"

 

[JonMiller]

Yeah, but sometimes things come up.

And there is a difference between dietary rules that you follow because you feel that they are a good idea. And a diet that you follow because to do otherwise disgusts you or would make you sick.

I don't normally eat mac&cheese. This is a diet rule, it is because it isn't healthy. I don't order it/etc. However, when I go to someone's house, and they have some, I get some. It doesn't really harm me any.

However, the times that I have had meat it has made me sick. And so while I would eat mac&cheese, I wouldn't eat meat just to make the host feel better or something.

Another example, I have known people (been freinds with) who want their guests to share in their drug use. I also declined that. That is becuase I felt it wasn't worth it (due to legal issues mostly).

Now, if I could stomach meat, I don't see anything wrong with eating it. And so like the Mac&Cheese I would have some if offered even though I don't normally eat it. And a number of my vegeterrian freinds who weren't always vegeterrian are similar.

However, it is different for me. Make someone feel a little better isn't worth me being sick. And honestly, most any host in america wouldn't want me to eat meat knowing that. Most hosts don't want to cause their guests discomfort or suffering or pain.

Maybe the best example would be the lactose intollerant. Some decide that they will eat some milk cause it is offered and be in pain later. But many, especially those younger than 30, will just say 'no thanks' and skip the pain.

JM

 

[Byfaithalone1]

Yeah, but sometimes things come up.

And there is a difference between dietary rules that you follow because you feel that they are a good idea. And a diet that you follow because to do otherwise disgusts you or would make you sick.

I don't normally eat mac&cheese. This is a diet rule, it is because it isn't healthy. I don't order it/etc. However, when I go to someone's house, and they have some, I get some. It doesn't really harm me any.

However, the times that I have had meat it has made me sick. And so while I would eat mac&cheese, I wouldn't eat meat just to make the host feel better or something.

Another example, I have known people (been freinds with) who want their guests to share in their drug use. I also declined that. That is becuase I felt it wasn't worth it (due to legal issues mostly).

Now, if I could stomach meat, I don't see anything wrong with eating it. And so like the Mac&Cheese I would have some if offered even though I don't normally eat it. And a number of my vegeterrian freinds who weren't always vegeterrian are similar.

However, it is different for me. Make someone feel a little better isn't worth me being sick. And honestly, most any host in america wouldn't want me to eat meat knowing that. Most hosts don't want to cause their guests discomfort or suffering or pain.

Maybe the best example would be the lactose intollerant. Some decide that they will eat some milk cause it is offered and be in pain later. But many, especially those younger than 30, will just say 'no thanks' and skip the pain.

JM

I have read your post. It contains a very different hypothetical than the one presented in the original post. In my mind, there is difference between abstaining in order to avoid illness and abstaining in order to honor dietary laws given to Israelites. The point of this thread has been that no dietary law takes precedence over the greatest commandment.

BFA

 

[Marie87]

Of course, almost everyone eats breakfast, it's the most important meal of the day.I'm praying for more CF friends PM me porfavor.Please!!!

 

[winslow]

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[JonMiller]

Or served you some veggies and wanted you to use some weed with him afterwards?

JM

 

[Man-ofGod]

This is a silly little side topic, but perhaps you might humor me?

Let's imagine for a moment that you are a Christian musician and you have travelled to another town to provide music for a worship service in a non-SDA church. A member of that church offered to have you stay with him overnight. Although that member knows you are a Seventh-day Adventist, he does not really understand what SDAs believe. He wakes early in the morning and prepares only one breakfast item--a breakfast burrito that contains sausage. As you arrive at the breakfast table, you note your host's enthusiasm about the breakfast and his interest in hearing your opinion of his culinary creation.

If you were faced with such a situation, would you:

(1) Politely decline the breakfast and explain the reasons why you choose not to eat sausage;
(2) Politely decline the breakfast and suggest that you aren't hungry;
(3) Try to pick the sausage out of the burrito and then eat it;
(3) Decide to eat the burrito because you believe it is more important to show love than it is to honor dietary laws;
(4) Eat the burrito in the same way you would any other day because you have no conviction one way or the other regarding the consumption of pork products; -OR-
(5) Some other option I haven't thought of (please specify).
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Thanks for humoring me.

BFA

Since I believe Pork to be unhealthy, I would refuse to eat it. So i would pick it out as you implied and would be very nice about how I explained it to him. On the positive side, I think it provides the perfect transition to a theological discussion since its possible it can arouse more curiosity into my faith.;-)

 

[Man-ofGod]

I actually faced this exact scenario when I was in my early 20s and still an SDA. That's why I raised the question; I was enterested to see how others would have handled the situation. When I was faced with this situation, I apologized to the host, claimed that I wasn't hungry and didn't like to eat before singing. I was pretty hungry when we finally got to eat lunch.

In my early 30s, when my approach to SDAism had become more progressive, I probably would have simply eaten the burrito and then would have later felt guilty about it.

Today, I would eat it, enjoy it and feel no guilt about it.

BFA

Guilt is a thing of the conscience. Its a wonderful function, the conscience, that God has given Humans. With that said, Gods health laws were given for our own benefit, but it is not necessary for our salvation. To me, I made a personal promise, and have not ate pork since.

 

[Byfaithalone1]

Guilt is a thing of the conscience.

Guilt is not always created by God. Often, it is created by men. In this case, we are not discussing anything that God has done.

With that said, Gods health laws were given for our own benefit,

To whom were they given? Why were they given? Scripture please?

but it is not necessary for our salvation.

Of course not.

To me, I made a personal promise, and have not ate pork since.

And how do you view those who do? Unhealthy? Unconvicted? Lazy?

BFA