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How many times am I going to have to answer that question? How can you people know so little about Christians you hate so much?But what tells you about Christ, about salvation, if not the Bible?
How many times am I going to have to answer that question? How can you know so little about Christians you hate so much?
Science tends to avoid use of the term: "survival of the fittest".survival of the fittest?
Paul said: "death through sin". That does not mean there was not death in the world before sin entered into the world. The snake was already in the Garden and Eve made a choice to follow the snake in his rebellion against God.death came into the world because of sin.
Jesus is the Word of God: John 1:14 "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us".my salvation comes from Christ, not the Bible.
The Holy Spirit gives life to the Word of God. He is our Teacher to guide us and lead us into all truth.But what tells you about Christ, about salvation, if not the Bible?
That's OK. I've already been damned to hell by your colleagues several times just on this thread already.
I don't think "He said."
I'm not sure exactly what that means, but my impression is that you are trying to force the text into a modern form of historical narrative which has no precedent in ancient Hebrew literature.
Your belief that evolutionary biology is a fraud concerns me. I'm not a scientist, my background is in math and engineering, but I am passing familiar with science and have worked with scientists and it seems implausible and not a little paranoid to me. What would be the motive? The number of scientists who are theists who are scientists argues that it is not an atheistic conspiracy and quite frankly YECism is too small a segment of Christianity to merit so much effort.
Let's see... There was Clement, mentored by St. Peter and chosen by him to be successor Bishop of Rome. How could he know anything about Christianity? Then there were Polycarp and Ignatious, students of St. John. Might as well throw their books into the toilet--after all, they're not The Bible. And so on, but never mind. None of them were "real" Christians, because they were not conservative Evangelical Protestants so you don't really care to hear about them, except to find fault.And where did this sacred tradition get it's intel on Christ?
We have clay tablets today that tell the story of Noah and the Ark before Moses wrote Genesis. So if the exact Bible version was around or not there were still written versions of the story outside of the Bible.
The Animals Went in Two by Two, According to Babylonian Ark Tablet - Biblical Archaeology Society
Here's a little thought experiment for you. You have a chance to be the first creationist who hasn't dodged it: Suppose convincing and unassailable documentary evidence came to light that the Garden story was intended by its (divinely inspired) author to be an etiology--a "Just-So" story. What would that do to your faith? Would you quit being a Christian?Meanwhile, Genesis is written as a historical event and there is no indication that it is anything but a historical event that took place as indicated.
Not so numerous, and all uncovered by other scientists--not creationists.There are numerous proven cases of fraud in the history of people trying to validate the hoax of evolution.
Here's a little thought experiment for you. You have a chance to be the first creationist who hasn't dodged it: Suppose convincing and unassailable documentary evidence came to light that the Garden story was intended by its (divinely inspired) author to be an etiology--a "Just-So" story. What would that do to your faith? Would you quit being a Christian?
Let's see... There was Clement, mentored by St. Peter and chosen by him to be successor Bishop of Rome. How could he know anything about Christianity? Then there were Polycarp and Ignatious, students of St. John. Might as well throw their books into the toilet--after all, they're not The Bible. And so on, but never mind. None of them were "real" Christians, because they were not conservative Evangelical Protestants so you don't really care to hear about them, except to find fault.
Isn't it possible that it's the truth but not the whole truth? As in, we were given the basic idea, but we had to write out the full equation? The first verse of Genesis says, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth..." Ok, but how? I don't believe science is trying to prove God didn't do it...I mean, I'm sure there are some scientist that this is there purpose...but I believe there are also many that are just trying to figure out how.No. Because the evidence would be wrong. Because no matter what 'truth' is uncovered, the Bible is still the ultimate truth. And anything contradicting what is clearly taught in the Scriptures is a lie.
Isn't it possible that it's the truth but not the whole truth? As in, we were given the basic idea, but we had to write out the full equation? The first verse of Genesis says, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth..." Ok, but how? I don't believe science is trying to prove God didn't do it...I mean, I'm sure there are some scientist that this is there purpose...but I believe there are also many that are just trying to figure out how.
Ok...God said let there be...so what happened then? Did He say it and poof it was there, or did something begin to happen...say, a mountain, for example...was there just suddenly a mountain, or did God speak and suddenly the earth start shifting and rising and falling until a mountain was formed? Maybe the former is true, but it could be the latter, as well...and, if it is...it doesn't change the fact that He did it.What's to figure out? God Himself said how He did it.
I'm pretty much died in the wool creationist now but for a while I was on the fence. I finally decided, based on, believe it or not, the discrepancies of natural history that Darwinism didn't reflect real world adaptive evolution. However, I had spent some time rethinking my theology, rearranging this and rationalizing that. It was only after a considerable amount of time that my thoughts turned to a series exposition of Genesis 1 and the text could not be any clearer. Indeed, there are always a few blank that need to be filled in but one thing is crystal clear and in the strongest possible terms, God created life in general and man in particular.If you read further in the thread you can see that my belief is indeed that God created, to me there is no denying that...as another poster said, Genesis gives us the essentials, and does a beautiful job of it...but, I don't necessarily think it gives us all the details...and I think that's where science comes in...to, fill in the blanks, if you will. Not to be in opposition.
Of course, now I know I've opened another can of worms with the term "fill in the blanks..." Lift off in 3...2....
I agree with that, I just want to know the details...I can tell one of my daughters, "Go clean your room." And it's done. But there's a process in between there. The process doesn't make the statement, "I told my daughter to clean her room and it was done," less true.Psalm 33:9 makes it quite clear. For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.
The Church Fathers (AD 100–600) were theologians after the apostles. Based on Scripture, they opposed naturalistic theories of origins. Some, including Clement of Alexandria (c. 152–217), Origen (c. 185–254), and Augustine (c. 354–430), interpreted Genesis 1 allegorically. To them, the six days were a symbolic presentation of God’s creation in one instant.Let's see... There was Clement, mentored by St. Peter and chosen by him to be successor Bishop of Rome. How could he know anything about Christianity? Then there were Polycarp and Ignatious, students of St. John.
I agree with that, I just want to know the details...
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