I apologize, but I am still unable to grasp your analogy...what does it have to do with a flat earth?
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I apologize, but I am still unable to grasp your analogy...what does it have to do with a flat earth?The almighty holders of the darwinian faith, when challenged by questioning, spout excommunication like any good old tongs weilding inquisitor. Look at the post about the Christian girl flunking out of college because she didn't "believe in" evolution.
But this thread is about Christians getting the heck away from homosexuals, as they should. There is no need to interact with those that hate with such a passion.
Go darwinian Christian-bashing in a new thread if you wish to feed that dictator.
Thats what they said in canada too when they were fighting for it there and now pastors have gone to jail for even speaking on it - people have been fined for refusing gay wedding photography and printing gay wedding invitations -there are tons of militant gays who chomp at the bit thinking they could sue a conservative pastor - so if you believe that really that they wouldnt try it - you arent being honest with yourself.
Also some schools are teaching homosexual lifestyle to gradeschoolers and teaching it as alternative lifestyles - gay marriage is not an ok thing to teach my child period and never will be.
That lie again?
Please provide a legitimate news source showing that a minister in Canada has been convicted and jailed for speaking about homosexuality
Only if such accusations untrue and are made as an invective; upholding the intellectual integrity of the thread is more than ethical here.
I have not been able to find any case of ministers being jailed for refusing to perform same-sex marriages in Canada. I have found a marriage commissioner who was fined for refusing to perform one, and who is attempting to sue the government.
A marriage commissioner is apparently a semi-civil-servant who is licensed to perform marriages. As such, he is acting as an agent of the state. At the time that same-sex marriages became legal, he was told that he would be expected to perform them when asked, and was given the opportunity to resign his license.
He was also told that he should apply through his church as a minister for a license to marry that would allow him to pick and choose who to marry.
The situation is exactly the same as if a fast-food chicken chain has just spent a fortune on developing and advertising a ribs entree, only to have a local franchise holder refuse to serve the ribs in his restaurante, because they are pork.
Nowhere do I see Jesus asking me to accept gay marriage in fact He says gays should remain celibate for the kingdom of heaven. Preaching Gods word isnt a sin - thank you though for this post proving gays demand and do exactly as i stated . Its not discrimination to state the word of God.
Do I forgive gays for their choice of sin? Sure do -i am a sinner too but i am not asking others to call my sins ok.
Im sure you will ignore what Jesus said but still here it is:
"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. John 13:34
You shall love your neighbor as yourself Galatians 5:14
If any one says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen. 1 John 4:20
Can you cite chapter and verse where Jesus preaches that hate and discrimination are good things to do?
Most conservatives choose to translate malakos, "soft" as used in 1 Corinthians 6:9, as "effeminate" or even more clearly as "homosexual." I do not entirely agree with that translation, but however you choose to translate malakos, "bashing" "soft" people even to as mild a point as using the word "malakos" in an insulting tone of voice, is in direct violation of Jesus teachings: "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca ["malakos," "soft"], shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." (Matthew 5:22)
And I will state it again, the bible has nothing to do with law and cannot be used to force your idea on others."Brother" as in fellow believer.
The "pagans and tax collectors" are another matter.
Be that as it may, the opposition to same-gender sex acts is well-founded in Apostolic writings. And in the Gospel, marriage is a man and a woman.
Done deal.
Then Christians should interact with homosexuals why? To do so is entertaining an aspect of lying for sure. Christians are admonished to leave those that refuse the Gospel alone to themselves.
This whole situation with homosexuality and Gay Activism could have been avoided if conservative values would have been defended as passionately as is the efforts to challenge gay culture in our schools, our legislation and our judicial system.
And I will state it again, the bible has nothing to do with law and cannot be used to force your idea on others.
Then Christians should interact with homosexuals why? To do so is entertaining an aspect of lying for sure. Christians are admonished to leave those that refuse the Gospel alone to themselves.
This is not a new concept.
Here ya go:
Matthew 10:
5These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. 7As you go, preach this message: 'The kingdom of heaven is near.' 8Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy drive out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. 9Do not take along any gold or silver or copper in your belts; 10take no bag for the journey, or extra tunic, or sandals or a staff; for the worker is worth his keep.
11"Whatever town or village you enter, search for some worthy person there and stay at his house until you leave. 12As you enter the home, give it your greeting.
13If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you.
14If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town.
15 I tell you the truth, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.
16I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
17"Be on your guard against men; they will hand you over to the local councils and flog you in their synagogues.
18On my account you will be brought before governors
and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it.
This whole situation with homosexuality and Gay Activism could have been avoided if conservative values would have been defended as passionately as is the efforts to challenge gay culture in our schools, our legislation and our judicial system.
When is the last time Christians went from town to town healing the sick, raising the dead, casting out demons and such? When is the last time Christians did anything without thinking about and begging for money? When is the last time Christians simply left a place or a person alone because they didn't believe?5These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. 7As you go, preach this message: 'The kingdom of heaven is near.' 8Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy drive out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. 9Do not take along any gold or silver or copper in your belts; 10take no bag for the journey, or extra tunic, or sandals or a staff; for the worker is worth his keep.
Than why should science be used instead?
We have a clear record of where that has led mankind. Smart bombs and war.
Hmm sounds very dark ages familiar. Monolithic authoritarianism opposed to any challenges. Darwinism is the new flat earth.
Hmm yeah.
Yeah. That right there proves it is Dark Age thinking, what with me advocating torture for those that disagree with me.I have no problem with creationism being taught provided it can be established as a valid theory.
The reality is, most Christians don't even follow their own Bible, they do whatever is convenient for them.
I don't think a lot of gay people even care about the institution of marriage. Its is about destroying it. Its Being in rebellion to God and recognition of their rebellion to God and if there wasn't a institution of marriage needed. There wouldn't have been a need to create women in the first place.
You're kidding right? I'm assuming you have already boycotted the use of cars, television, modern medicine, computers... When is the last time you worried about polio?
Have any elderly relatives who needed hip replacement? Pacemakers?
Did you pop a bagel into your toaster this morning? Reheat yesterday's dinner in the microwave? When is the last time you spent the entire day washing your laundry by hand?
Oh, and I'm assuming you simply prayed that the post of yours that I just quoted would appear on this bulletin board and that's how it got here, right?
Oh and I hate to tell you this, but most war is started because people can't leave other people alone when it comes to their religious beliefs.
No my li'l Christian friend, science isn't the problem, hatred and bigotry rooted in religion is.
They (most) don't follow the Bible because they have no idea what the Bible says or what it represents. Ghandi witnessed the difference between the concept of Christianity and the people who allege Christianity.
Just take a look at those who allege Christianity on the forum. Can you just feel the love of Jesus jumping out from their posts or do you instead see haughty arrogance and huge amounts of condemnation dished out toward others simply because they are 'different' to them?
The very thread topic 'Should Christians interact with Gays at all? smacks of everything Jesus spent much of His ministry condemning.
Forget about what supposed Christians would do in a given situation. The question should be What would Jesus do?
I think that interacting with Gays would be at the top of Jesus' list.
That would be after firstly taking down the gloating hypocrites a peg or two, of course.
The knowledge of good and evil.
Hmm, sounds familiar. I boycot perversions and celebrating moral deviance. Use science right and all is fine.
Yup. And every one treated by a Christian surgeon.
Hmm, you may not like the outcome of using science accurately.
Facts. I live by them, they guide my life. After all I am a "Born Again" Christian. That comes from thoughts and actions.
OK. But you aren't pretending the horrors brought to earth by secularism and especially "godless" secularism? Are you? You keep religionists in check and keep secularists in check too. I'm comfortable with a life lived in peace will spread the Gospel to the four corners of the globe.
These days, the hatred and bigotry and ignorance, wears a secular face far more often. Pal. And we are not friends. Just people typing on our keyboards posting on a website somewhere.
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