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Should Alberta Seceed ?

If Quebec goes , should Alberta follow ?

  • Yeah, cut our losses and run !

  • Nah, stick it out with The Feds


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Who,s Alberta?LOL

No,we should invade Canada,and impose martial law on them!:D

Nah, the US would never invade Canada - too many socialists up here. Once we were absorbed and got the vote that'd be the end of Republican presidents! :) Plus, we're safe as long as we have Quebec, Americans are spooked by the french, they make Americans feel inferior. ^_^
 
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It would not make sense for Alberta to go--where would they go? The province is surrounded on all sides, we could cut off thier water supplies or reroute thier river systems to benefit the surrounding provinces. We could make them produce passports and create trade agreements with them before allowing them to just leave and wander around Canada. We also could make them pay back all the medicare and welfare benefits they've recieved from the Canadian system before they decide to create thier own country in the middle of ours. We could also limit thier travel and air-space usage for flights coming in and out of Alberta.

But the first thing we would do is start syphoning out thier oil and gas out of thier tiny country by all gassing up there and saving all the oil we have in the Mackenzie Delta and offshore in BC. We'll bleed them dry of gas in record time!!! And we'll quit being tourists in Alberta by getting everyone to go to every other province with tourism incentives.

Plus anyone from Alberta that works in the NWT Diamond mines will have to transfer out of Alberta to keep thier jobs or pay penalties for working in Canada and residing out of the country.

Oh, we also won't cheer the Calgary Flames or the Edmonton Oilers anymore for abandoning the country of Canada, that loves and supports hockey and are the best hockey fans in the world.
 
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harbinger said:
The Us would probably like to pick up Alberta though - bunch of rednecks with oil - Bush's dream! (kidding, I love the red... er, salt-of-the-earth folks out west) :D

hmmm ....s´more like it.
 
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The Ascetic Crusader said:
200 odd years ago a bunch of quacks decided to split from the Commonwealth because of somethin´ called "taxation without representation". This is The West´s Declaration of Independence !!!!!
You call the United States a bunch of quacks and yet you yourself want to seperate? Hmm...so what does that make you? A hypoquacktic? ;)
The United States never split from the British Commonwealth, but the British Empire. The Commonwealth was a much later invention designed by the British once they realized their empire wouldn't be too hot if all the countries decided to leave like the US. And Alberta has representation...if you want more representation - either get in boatloads of immigrants or...start breeding like rabbits.

Svt4Him said:
Not only would I be for it, I'd run for a political party to represent it. I am so sick of the east. I'm tired of the tax, I'm tired of the bought votes, I'm tired of the Liberal government...

Between BC, Alberta and Sask, we'd be pretty self-reliant.
Poor baby...tired of the Easterners. :cry:
Tired of tax?? If you want government, you need taxes. Suck it up. So you're tired of the government, you're not the only one, and not only in the West. Stop griping. How can you picture a government of Alberta, Sask, and BC?? BC and Sask are socialists!! How would that work?? You'd end up with statues to Jack Layton everywhere...the moustache would make a comeback...it just wouldn't work.
 
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Oh my... what is the country comming to?

Like seriously, if everyone just got over themselves it'd be a wonderful thing!

I'd like to introduce you to the new Canadaian Map:

C a n a d a | C a n a d a | C a n a d a
Canada | Crap | Canada | Crap | Canada

Sounds like fun!
 
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Aw, yes, another idea that may sound good on paper --- well, for about five minutes --- but would never, ever, ever work in reality. Alberta needs Canada and Canada needs Alberta. Each without the other would be weaker. There's a balance between federal government and provincial governments that may need to be adjusted from time to time. But succession is not the way to go. Neither is Stephen Harper.
 
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Poor baby...tired of the Easterners. :cry:
Tired of tax?? If you want government, you need taxes. Suck it up. So you're tired of the government, you're not the only one, and not only in the West. Stop griping. How can you picture a government of Alberta, Sask, and BC?? BC and Sask are socialists!! How would that work?? You'd end up with statues to Jack Layton everywhere...the moustache would make a comeback...it just wouldn't work.

Yes, I'm tired of tax. Suck it up? I can't, every time I get something the government takes it and gives it to their friends. Seems the east has more Liberal friends though. As for NDP, if that was what the provinces voted, that'd be fine, as a matter of fact that would be perfect. Weird to actually think someone could have the government they voted for eh?

As for the adjustment between federal and provincial, perhaps it would be better if the adjustment actually helped us? Oh, it's ok to take billions, the Liberals will give a few million back, that's the adjustment?...after of course we pay for another liberal trip or PACK OF GUM. Sorry, I'd stick with Stephen Harper before Liberal any day. Heck, if Liberals look like they're losing, perhaps Ujjal Dosanjh will go back to NDP?
 
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Svt4Him said:
As for the adjustment between federal and provincial(...)? Oh, it's ok to take billions, the Liberals will give a few million back, that's the adjustment?

Yeah SVT !!! let him have it !!!!

BTW, It´s called fuzzy math. The Libs are genuises at it. Don´t bother listening to these Easterners. Remember what happened last time we listened to one of their ilk ? NEP !!!
 
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Crusading_Ostrich said:
Poor baby...tired of the Easterners. :cry:
Tired of tax?? If you want government, you need taxes. Suck it up.

There you go again...spoken like a true Easterner. BTW, that statement you just made ? That´s the biggest crock ever sold to the people. Ever!!! You need taxes if you want gov...sssshhheeah right!

If anybody should know about " suckin it up " its you pencil-pushers in the East. You´ve been suckin´ us dry for decades...
 
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The Ascetic Crusader said:
There you go again...spoken like a true Easterner. BTW, that statement you just made ? That´s the biggest crock ever sold to the people. Ever!!! You need taxes if you want gov...sssshhheeah right!

If anybody should know about " suckin it up " its you pencil-pushers in the East. You´ve been suckin´ us dry for decades...

And we'll keep doing it. Wanna know why? Half your population is from the maritimes. ;)
 
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The Ascetic Crusader said:
There you go again...spoken like a true Easterner. BTW, that statement you just made ? That´s the biggest crock ever sold to the people. Ever!!! You need taxes if you want gov...sssshhheeah right!

If anybody should know about " suckin it up " its you pencil-pushers in the East. You´ve been suckin´ us dry for decades...
Would you then care to explain how you will run a government in your new Utopian West?? No tax, everyone has lots of money and services?? :scratch: Perhaps a feudal society...

2 out of 3 of the western provinces (btw...who wants manitoba???) receive equalization...
 
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Crusading_Ostrich said:
2 out of 3 of the western provinces (btw...who wants manitoba???) receive equalization...

That´s cuz of Ottawa engineered poverty. You Eastern bureaucrats wouldn´t want 3 Alberta sized economies in your hands now, would ya ? Everybody would leave the East...
 
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The Ascetic Crusader said:
What do you understand about the plight of the Western man and woman ? Really, enlighten me.

Wow, way too much time on your hands, I see. Plight? Go on over to Darfur and see what a real plight is.

And you didn't answer the question: Are you a bigot? Do you dislike easterners simply because they are easterners?

(btw, none of us call ourselves easterners, we're Ontarions, Quebecois, Maritimers, and Newfs :p )
 
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The Ascetic Crusader said:
That´s cuz of Ottawa engineered poverty. You Eastern bureaucrats wouldn´t want 3 Alberta sized economies in your hands now, would ya ? Everybody would leave the East...
:scratch: -- poverty is rather a useless term...it changes every year. I'm sure the rest of the world is absolutely terrified that the great economic giant Saskatchewan will overtake the rest of the world....I'm sure they are just terrified.

If in the East are bureaucrats, what are the westerners -- well actually more or less just concerned about what you call yourself because I don't believe many of the rest of the west would prefer to be labelled under your rebellion. Just remember the fate of the last rebellion out of the west...left hanging in the wind...;)
 
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