Should a Christian vote for a Mormon?

[jpcedotal]

In many countries in the world folks have no choice who has authority over them. That is by God's providence. In this country God has allowed us the right to voice our desire by our vote. Though He has already ordained who will be our next president He will do it through the means of our vote. If the Lord Jesus were running for president I would certainly vote for Him. But since He is already on the throne ruling I must vote for an imperfect man whom He controls. They are all politicians and until you find a perfect man to vote for you must vote for an imperfect one. If you don't vote you are saying that you don't care and that God should have made you a citizen of a coiuntry where you don't have that right. If you enjoy the freedoms that God has allowed you as a citizen of this country then in order to preserve them you must vote. Standing on principles is one thing but cutting off your nose to spite your face is ridiculous.

I never said I was not going to vote...a vote for somebody other than the two picked for me if both are non-Christians, IS STILL A VOTE.

 

[twin1954]

I never said I was not going to vote...a vote for somebody other than the two picked for me if both are non-Christians, IS STILL A VOTE.

Yes it is. It is a vote for Oama. Unless and until a third party has the strength to acutally be elected you are only ensureing that one or the other of your bad choices are elected. We live in a real world. In an ideal one all of our candidates would be believers. But since they aren't we must sometimes hold our nose and vote for the one whom we think will do the least harm.

 

[ByronArn]

As I have expressed before on another thread, I do not believe electing the President of the USA is electing a religious leader but rather a civil leader. One's religious beliefs is not what qualifies one for President, but rather his political values. If a Mormon matched my political issues, then I would vote for him. They are usually quite conservtive, however, so that is unlikely.

As a Democrat, I will be voting for Obama. About the only major issue that I didsagree with the Democratic Party on is abortion, but that is really a non-issue when it comes to president anyways. A president has no power to abolish nor affirm abortion.

The Reublican party has no intent of changing abortion anyways. Part of Bush's term, the Republicans controlled both houses. Abortion is still here. Its too much of a rallying point for Republicans. Before abortion was an issue, most Catholics and most mainstream Christians were Democrats. Then the Republican party picked up abortion and they gained a lot of supporters from both camps. As well as some supporters from every other camp. No, they won't get rid of it, they will only pretend to fight it in order to use the issue to their benefit.

Now the Democrats support taking care of the poor, sepearation of church and state (which Baptists in America have stood for since before 1776!), civil gay marriage (as part of the separation of church and state; with the chuches maintaining the right to not recognize gay marriages), civil rights (for example, how many Republicans are against affirmitive action?), and the list goes on.

I probably really stepped in it with this post, so I think I will now excuse myself from the thread before it hits the fan. Lol. I just wanted to explain some of my theories of politics. God bless you all!

 

[twin1954]

As I have expressed before on another thread, I do not believe electing the President of the USA is electing a religious leader but rather a civil leader. One's religious beliefs is not what qualifies one for President, but rather his political values. If a Mormon matched my political issues, then I would vote for him. They are usually quite conservtive, however, so that is unlikely.

As a Democrat, I will be voting for Obama. About the only major issue that I didsagree with the Democratic Party on is abortion, but that is really a non-issue when it comes to president anyways. A president has no power to abolish nor affirm abortion.

The Reublican party has no intent of changing abortion anyways. Part of Bush's term, the Republicans controlled both houses. Abortion is still here. Its too much of a rallying point for Republicans. Before abortion was an issue, most Catholics and most mainstream Christians were Democrats. Then the Republican party picked up abortion and they gained a lot of supporters from both camps. As well as some supporters from every other camp. No, they won't get rid of it, they will only pretend to fight it in order to use the issue to their benefit.

Now the Democrats support taking care of the poor, sepearation of church and state (which Baptists in America have stood for since before 1776!), civil gay marriage (as part of the separation of church and state; with the chuches maintaining the right to not recognize gay marriages), civil rights (for example, how many Republicans are against affirmitive action?), and the list goes on.

I probably really stepped in it with this post, so I think I will now excuse myself from the thread before it hits the fan. Lol. I just wanted to explain some of my theories of politics. God bless you all!

In this country that is your right. If you agree with President Obama then by all means vote for him. I just hope that not too many folks are like you and that those who do not like President Obama will not set out the election or insure his re-elction by voting for a third party candidate.

 

[ByronArn]

In this country that is your right. If you agree with President Obama then by all means vote for him. I just hope that not too many folks are like you and that those who do not like President Obama will not set out the election or insure his re-elction by voting for a third party candidate.

This is the reason that I am rooting for Romney to win the G.O.P nomination. It will divide the main alliance of the Republican Party (the extremely wealthy and the evangelical wing of Christianity), and many evangelicals will either vote for third party candidates or sit it out.

Of course, I am not one who will be dishonest and unethical and vote in the Republican primary for my state. If Romney (or Newt) wins the primaries, I simply take that as a sign that God has selected Obama to elect for another 4 years...

 

[Zaac]

In many countries in the world folks have no choice who has authority over them. That is by God's providence. In this country God has allowed us the right to voice our desire by our vote. Though He has already ordained who will be our next president He will do it through the means of our vote. If the Lord Jesus were running for president I would certainly vote for Him. But since He is already on the throne ruling I must vote for an imperfect man whom He controls. They are all politicians and until you find a perfect man to vote for you must vote for an imperfect one. If you don't vote you are saying that you don't care and that God should have made you a citizen of a coiuntry where you don't have that right. If you enjoy the freedoms that God has allowed you as a citizen of this country then in order to preserve them you must vote. Standing on principles is one thing but cutting off your nose to spite your face is ridiculous.

What is ridiculous is that so many folks who profess to be Christians think that there is some sort of exceptions that can be made when it comes to one's allegiance and witness for Christ.

If there is but one candidate and he worships a false god, what does it say about the Christian witness of those who support such a candidate?

Write someone else in. But at no point should a Christian be supporting anyone who follows a god who is NOT Jesus Christ.

 

[Zaac]

Yes it is. It is a vote for Oama. Unless and until a third party has the strength to acutally be elected you are only ensureing that one or the other of your bad choices are elected. We live in a real world. In an ideal one all of our candidates would be believers. But since they aren't we must sometimes hold our nose and vote for the one whom we think will do the least harm.

Then who cares if it is a vote for Obama? If Christians don't collectively have enough sense to know that CHRIST is to be first even in our politics and that one testifying for Christ has no business supporting that which is against HIM, then this country deserves Obama and the absolute Hades he shall inflict on this country and world for the next four years.

And not because of anything that those who actually support Obama did, but because the Body of Christ is not keeping Christ FIRST.

 

[Zaac]

As I have expressed before on another thread, I do not believe electing the President of the USA is electing a religious leader but rather a civil leader. One's religious beliefs is not what qualifies one for President, but rather his political values. If a Mormon matched my political issues, then I would vote for him. They are usually quite conservtive, however, so that is unlikely.

That's a bunch of crazy which is again why I always find myself wondering how folks can say they love Christ and are Christians but that Christ and His morality aren't an issue when electing people to govern.

As a Democrat, I will be voting for Obama. About the only major issue that I disagree with the Democratic Party on is abortion, but that is really a non-issue when it comes to president anyways. A president has no power to abolish nor affirm abortion.

Why do you disagree with them? Upon what is that disagreement based?

 

[MichaelKelley]

I am at a bit of a delimma here; I can't understand only 41% of Christians that wont vote for this devout Mormon for president. I certainly can't understand how a true Baptist could vote for a Mormon fpr president; and yet Franklin. Fragments; and who knows who else has no pro lemon with it. I guess you just have Jesus Christ put away somewhere; and do your thing. All comments respected.

We don't have a say in our government anyway. All the Presidents except Martin van Buren are related and directly traced to the House of Plantagenet, the longest running house in Great Britain. The global elite has there man on BOTH sides and manipulates the media so that one of them always gets elected.

Even in this election, the true candidates that were PERFECT for conservatives could not get the support that the fakers have been getting. Herman Cain was publicly lynched just like was done to Clarence Thomas and now he's out of the race. Michele Bachmann did well, but the media would not give her a chance, and thus the American people did not think she did either, when in fact she was the only true candidate still in the running that was CONSTANT and didn't have to say, "well, I believed this way, but now I've changed..."

Now, we just have Santorum whose okay, but he's not getting the respect he deserves either. The candidate will either be Romney or Perry, two absolute loony establishment fake conservatives... or Ron Paul who is just a nut who goes WAY TOO FAR on most issues and does not support Israel and puts the economic decline above the moral decline.

God has abandoned America... just read Romans chapter 1, His abandonment judgment in which He gives a nation over that rejects Him to their degrading passions, specifically homosexuality. I've always been been one to look to 2 Chronicles 7:14 and earnestly pray for this country, but after a while I've just felt the Lord's tugging to stop, like He commanded to Jeremiah, for the nation is already sealed in Revelation 17-18 with no turning back. And, as He told Hosea saying to Leave Ephraim alone, he's joined to idols.

The moral decline and blatant rejection of the Lord is THE REASON for our economic problems. And there is nothing that we can do if that is not taken care of... we'll just continue to sink further into this DEPRESSION. Yes, this is a depression just as bad as the Great Depression in the 1930s. The reason it doesn't seem that way is because there are programs that people are on that give them money for doing nothing. You don't see the large "hoovervills" that much because people take their government money to pay the bill on their homes. Same goes with the bread lines, they are now restricted to individual's by way of food stamps.

This is a PAGAN, SATANIC COUNTRY, and was founded as such!!! [ see link for more information: New World Order - YouTube ]

 

[WinBySurrender]

We don't have a say in our government anyway. All the Presidents except Martin van Buren are related and directly traced to the House of Plantagenet, the longest running house in Great Britain.

What???

 

[MrJG]

Then who cares if it is a vote for Obama? If Christians don't collectively have enough sense to know that CHRIST is to be first even in our politics and that one testifying for Christ has no business supporting that which is against HIM, then this country deserves Obama and the absolute Hades he shall inflict on this country and world for the next four years.

No offense, but your apathy sickens me.

Have you honestly thought about the election? If it is Romney vs Obama, which candidate do you think is more likely to be beneficial to the mission of the church in America?

I think you have already answered that question yourself.

 

[3rdHeaven]

No offense, but your apathy sickens me.

Have you honestly thought about the election? If it is Romney vs Obama, which candidate do you think is more likely to be beneficial to the mission of the church in America?

I think you have already answered that question yourself.

Some times our choice is the lesser of the two evils

 

[MichaelKelley]

What???

It's completely true. Visit the link I gave at the end of my previous response and watch all those videos. The detail about all the U.S. Presidents was actually discovered by a 12-year-old girl who was featured on the news about it...but the other videos go into more detail about the global elite.

Watch the Videos at this Link: New World Order - YouTube

 

[WinBySurrender]

It's completely true. Visit the link I gave at the end of my previous response and watch all those videos. The detail about all the U.S. Presidents was actually discovered by a 12-year-old girl who was featured on the news about it...but the other videos go into more detail about the global elite.

A bit of advice: Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. And conspiracies do not exist under every rock.

Have a nice day.

 

[2win]

Again; I want to thank all of you who have posted on this thread; yes, I do mean all of you; because of my/our old sinful nature I do disagree with some of what has been posted. I first of all want to say I am a devout Christian, and have been for many years. I grew up in a very consertive Baptist church, and even thought for many years that I was saved because my parents were members of the church. Not knowing it, I lived my life for many years for satan. A lot of yoou brothers, and sisters will disagree with what I am going to say next; I got saved at home alone, then I later joined the SBC, then later I was licensed to preach, then later was ordained. I am about to turn 79yrs. old, I don't stand in the pulpit anymore; put I still work with a lot of folks for our Lord, and Savior. I guess I need to leave out my personal testimony at this time; but when I first got saved I thought that every building that had "CHURCH" written on was the house of GOD; I certainly have learned through the years, that that is not so. I also have learned that because the name on the church is "BAPTIST" that there is much disagreement in doctrine, ritual, politics, and many other things. Because of that many churches split; and a lot of folks just leave church alltogether. However we know this is not something new; as the apostle Paul ask the question; " Is Christ devided!?" I have been very disheartened over church splits that I have witnessed. I hear folks say you can't be a Christian, and vote Democrat. Well I am going to say right here I am a registered Democrat; however; I do not say you are not Christian unless you are a Democrat. I believe there are Christians that are Democrats, and there are Christians that are re-Publicans. However do not believe either party is the Christian party. Let me tell you what happened in the last presidential elevtion; I prayed, and I prayed, and I prayed that the Lord would choose our president to lead our nation; then I read a lot of things, and heard a lot of people saying that Mr. Oboma was a Muslim; and that he wasn't even born in the USA; So guess what!? I voted for John Mc Cain; yea; I guess the Lord really screwed up right!? Well; I'm sure that all of my brothers, and sisters in the Lord were praying for the Lord to choose our president, and that His will be done. I really hope that none of us would ever think, or say the Lord screwed up. I certainly know that He never screws up. Anyway; I hope this time around everyone will go to the Lord in prayer, ask His guidence, and vote accordingly. I will also add; I still make a lot of mistakes, and I probably will until the Lord takes me home; now there are probably a lot of you on here who would say you never made a mistake; you thought you did one; but then you found out you were wrong. I think it is very important who our president is; and I know it is important who we, and our president says Jesus is. I am very much against all imoral sin; and everything that is sin against God. There are a lot of people who say they believe in God; and that they are even Christian; but their works show other wise. It is certain we will never have a president who is perfect, one that we will all agree with; because our president will always be just a human being; and so are we. May our Lord, and Savior bless, and guide each of you as you continue on.
2win

 

[Zaac]

No offense, but your apathy sickens me.

Fully intended to offend: your idolatry and that of so many others who say they love Christ sickens me.

Have you honestly thought about the election? If it is Romney vs Obama, which candidate do you think is more likely to be beneficial to the mission of the church in America?

And here someone goes again thinking they are doing God a favor by outthinking Him while disobeying Him.

Romney worships a false god. I don't get any farther than that with him. He ain't benefiting Christ at all by worshipping a false god.

The mission of the church better be to keep Christ FIRST and thereby living in obedience.

How does supporting a candidate who worships a false god do this?

 

[Zaac]

Some times our choice is the lesser of the two evils

And this is just one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard people repeat.

The lesser of two evils is STILL evil. Like we're supposed to prefer Barack's brand of evil over Mitt's (smh).

What fools we look like in siding with the devil's evil under any circumstance and then thinking we can witness for HIM while supporting that which is against Him.

Because of the foolishness of the "Church" shall this country get exactly what it deserves.

 

[MichaelKelley]

A bit of advice: Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. And conspiracies do not exist under every rock.

Have a nice day.

I don't believe everything I see or hear...that's the whole point the "War on the Airwaves" page of my website that I have. Most of what we see and hear is FILTERED and CONTROLLED by the global elite, and this is ALL DOCUMENTED.

Read "War on the Airwaves" here: Gearing the World for Deception - The Bible Study Now Institute

The Founding Fathers of this nation were, for the most part, ANTI Christ. Yes, a few were Christian but the big names like Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and others were by no means, and founded this nation to ultimately become Mystery Babylon, the head of the New World Order of the Antichrist.

If you had watched ANY of the videos in the Playlist on posted in my last 2 posts you would know that. This is all documented very well, especially in the Christopher Pinto's 3-hour documentary, "The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers." Most of the "quotes" that seem Christian in appearance are taken IMMENSELY out of the context, and when you actually take the time to read further in what they said, they are in many cases, denying the truth of the gospel OR EVEN outright blaspheming the name of the Lord! They were not "class-act Christian men" and the citizens at the time did not consider them as such, as they would constantly attempt to evangelize them in hopes they would come to know Christ, which by all known accounts, they never did.

Either watch the videos and see the documentation, or be a fool, as Solomon said, "He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him" (Proverbs 18:13).

Playlist - Watch at this link: New World Order - YouTube

 

[ByronArn]

Fully intended to offend: your idolatry and that of so many others who say they love Christ sickens me.



And here someone goes again thinking they are doing God a favor by outthinking Him while disobeying Him.

Romney worships a false god. I don't get any farther than that with him. He ain't benefiting Christ at all by worshipping a false god.

The mission of the church better be to keep Christ FIRST and thereby living in obedience.

How does supporting a candidate who worships a false god do this?

So voting for a non-Christian is disobedience to God? I must have missed that verse when I read through the Bible. Where exactly does God command those of us under the New Covenant to only elect Christians for our leaders?

 

[Skala]

Vote for Ron Paul

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