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I have to ask and additionally question the current state of our society? It would seem that we sheep are being overrun with wolves and not aware that they are present. Looking at the condition of just the US alone, one can easily identify and surmise the rampant freedoms the wolves have benefitted from, and how they have propagated and infested the sheeps pen.
40-50 years ago what is now allowed was considered taboo or illegal, banned, prohibited and percieved and accepted as ill-mannered and grossly wrong to our welfare and stability. It angers me because we should be able to live in a peaceble and secure country or world for that matter without corrosion, corruption and safe from the harms of those corruptive practices.
The increase of immorality has grown exponentially. We have increased gambling, narcotics, porn and prostitution, nicotine, witchcraft, processed foods, chemical toxins, idolatries(people/merchandise-seriously "How many vehicles do we need, or how many different types of houses, etc.?")among other things. It all is overwhelming, unneccassary and sickening.
"All of these perversions have proven to be unhealthy, unneccessary and corruptive to the body, the mind and probably the soul.
Why doesn't the government ban anything related to activities, lifestyles and practices that are fundamentally immoral and dangerous to our well being? Removing and cleansing our society of these things, practices and going so far as to remove the wolves(practioners) from our society or sheeps pen.

Prison system is flawed and overburden with occupants.

I just don't see the "one nation under GOD" anymore, it's been saturated with far too much immorality and now we have an over-abundance of heathens, and pagans with so called freedoms to foul with their practices. These heathens in the mix that don't and never belonged, at least those unrepentant ones.
I'm mean; think about it, "Would you want an actual unrepetant thief, a murder, sex offender living within your very home?!!" "What would ultimately happen if the occupants were not willing to repent or STOP their crime while residing in your place of residence?"

"Why do we keep allowing wolves in our pens, it is they're very nature to devour the sheep and ultimately destroy the flock."

"What will happen to a satchel of apples if they are mixed with worms or flies?"

This is a practical view of our current world condition.

STOPPING this insanity by removing that which is causing the problem is the ultimate cure to a healthy body or sheeps pen.

WE CAN"T KEEP LIVING AMONGST WOLVES FOR THE SLAUGHTER.........SO WHY DO WE?!!!!!


My answer is simple as scriptures states the best method is banishment. If peopleare unwillingly unrepentant and intentionally live a lifestyle that is corruptive to them selves and their neighbors, then ultimately banish them to two remote inescapable islands or land masses; one for women, and one for men, that have the means for self sufficient living. Let them fend for themselves keeping their debased minds, and wickedness far removed from the sheep's pen or christian congregration. Although provide a foundation for their hopeful enlightenment and repentance with scriptural writing on the wall, so to speak.
The scriptures tells us the pretty much the same thing, counsel them a few times , then have nothing to do with those whom won't listen and are unrepentant. Assuredly they have a reprobate minds.

We cannot afford to keep allowing this corruption and corrossion to our christian congregation brothers and sisters
One of the most overlooked sins is idolatry. All that "STUFF" and "THINGS" that have become GODS to us which include cellphones, houses, food, autos,etc, MONEY!"
It has to change for our genuine true christian lives to prosper effectively.

Christians cannot keep living among the wicked and hope to stay clean without dire consequences.

Love thy neighbor as thyself-genuine love like honorable parent's loving their children discipline them when they do wrong. This is the same for the love of our neighbor, if they are unwilling to behave/repent, causing friction, turmoil, implanting seeds and sowing seeds of evil where ever they trod then provide a place where they're heathenism is not endangering healthy morale living.

GOD bless and peace be with you in JESUS CHRIST.:crossrc:
 
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My answer is banishment, if they're unwillingly unrepentant, banish them to two remote inescapable islands or land masses one for women, and one for men, that have the means for self sufficient living. Let them fend for themselves keeping their debased minds, and wickedness far removed from the sheep's pen or christian congregration. Although provide a foundation for their hopeful enlightenment and repentance.
The scriptures tells us the pretty much the same thing, counsel them a few times , then have nothing to do with those whom won't listen and are unrepentant. Assuredly they have a reprobate minds.
We cannot afford to keep allowing this corruption and corrossion to our christian congregation brothers and sisters.
One of the most overlooked sins is idolatry. All that "STUFF" and "THINGS" that have become GODS to us-cellphones, houses, food, autos,etc, MONEY!"
It has to change for our genuine true christian lives to prsper effectively.

Christians cannot keep living among the wicked and hope to stay clean without dire consequences.

Love thy neighbor as thyself-genuine love like honorable parent's loving their children discipline them when they do wrong. This is the same for the love of our neighbor, if they are unwilling to behave/repent, causing friction, turmoil, implanting seeds and sowing seeds of evil where ever they trod then provide a place where they're heathenism is not endangering healthy morale living.

GOD bless and peace be with you in JESUS CHRIST.:crossrc:
The most wicked and evil thing I see here is what you're advocating. I will not have your Christian Taliban.
 
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Christians cannot keep living among the wicked and hope to stay clean without dire consequences.

I think you have a slightly good point here. Isn't that what the Amish, Shakers and other separatist religious groups have done by building their own communities outside the mainstream?

You should look into that, maybe?
 
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WE CAN"T KEEP LIVING AMONGST WOLVES FOR THE SLAUGHTER.........SO WHY DO WE?!!!!!

You will know them by their fangs, bite and tongues.

My answer is banishment, if they're unwillingly unrepentant, banish them to two remote inescapable islands or land masses one for women, and one for men, that have the means for self sufficient living. Let them fend for themselves keeping their debased minds, and wickedness far removed from the sheep's pen or christian congregration. Although provide a foundation for their hopeful enlightenment and repentance.
The scriptures tells us the pretty much the same thing, counsel them a few times , then have nothing to do with those whom won't listen and are unrepentant. Assuredly they have a reprobate minds.
We cannot afford to keep allowing this corruption and corrossion to our christian congregation brothers and sisters.
One of the most overlooked sins is idolatry. All that "STUFF" and "THINGS" that have become GODS to us-cellphones, houses, food, autos,etc, MONEY!"
It has to change for our genuine true christian lives to prsper effectively.

Christians cannot keep living among the wicked and hope to stay clean without dire consequences.

You are not being forced to. You are free to set up your own closed communities within the US or head out to greener pastures in the rest of the world. Both are a much more peaceful solution then your Christian gulag system.
 
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You are not being forced to. You are free to set up your own closed communities within the US or head out to greener pastures in the rest of the world. Both are a much more peaceful solution then your Christian gulag system.

I certainly understand the desire, yet it is indicated that Jesus seemed to think otherwise according to Gospel. If I recall correctly his concern was where there was need, not escape from the needy.

Where is the challenge of being holy amongst the holy? I'm not certain who that serves, really.
 
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The increase of immorality has grown exponentially.
But has it? For example, crime has been falling for 3 decades.
We have increased gambling, narcotics, porn and prostitution, nicotine, witchcraft, processed foods, chemical toxins, idolatries
Nicotine consumption has been in decline for a long time. I'm not convinced that all the others have been increasing. Can you provide any evidence, or is it just your intuition?
"All of these perversions have proven to be unhealthy, unneccessary and corruptive to the body, the mind and probably the soul.
Why doesn't the government ban anything related to activities, lifestyles and practices that are fundamentally immoral and dangerous to our well being?
A fan of big government? Also, many of those things you list are already banned, or restricted.
Removing and cleansing our society of these things, practices and going so far as to remove the wolves(practioners) from our society or sheeps pen.
Where is this nice-sounding island to which you would banish the sinners? Is it big? How are the beaches?
 
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I certainly understand the desire, yet it is indicated that Jesus seemed to think otherwise according to Gospel. If I recall correctly his concern was where there was need, not escape from the needy.

Having read much of what is attributed to him I missed his comments about banishing those who rejected his message to prison camps.
 
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Where is this nice-sounding island to which you would banish the sinners? Is it big? How are the beaches? Nicotine consumption has been in decline for a long time. I'm not convinced that all the others have been increasing. Can you provide any evidence, or is it just your intuition?

Unrepentant sinners(wolves) that intentionally corrupt others with their avarice and vices.

Pornography in all forms including prostitution increase is recorded and readily verifiable by the internet which is porns main form of communication/delivery now. The internet itself wasn't available up until some 15+ years ago. Do the math!
Food production has grown due to the increase in population and thusly their consumption, look at all the fast food joints easily accessible to anyone with a few bucks. Casinos(gambling)are more readily available throughout most of the states; which with most states were considered illegal and banned some 20+ years ago, now with their growth it is resulting in higher concentration of gamblers; which in turn increases the chance of forming an addiction to greed. 15 years ago in my state a ban was lifted , now we have major casinos available to the public in every county. Let us not forget the Lottery....sad and shameful!

The state I live in is one of the 4 leading areas for coven activity, with the freedom of religion act the "wiccan" (IT"S A COVEN OF WITCHCRAFT PRACTIONERS PEOPLE!!!)organization were allowed rights declaring thier PRACTICES the same as a religion and thusly more people were inclined to enlist in their satanic ritualization because the fear ratio was desensitized and many practioners whom hid thit from public were able to come out of the closet. Those childrens books written by a certain author also amplified interest and then ultimately the growth of practitioners. Witchcraft is NOT a religion it is a practice of satanic activities that are not based on faith, but on the fundemental attempt to grow in wickedness or perveted power.

Idolatries are self-explanatory, investigate the industrial revolution for example.....the quicker production of more, more, more junk with a faster process at cheaper cost principle, making "things" false gods more easily accessible and affordable to the public.
"You cannot have two masters, you will love one and hate the other, you cannot serve both GOD and money!"




GOD bless and peace be with you in JESUS CHRIST.
 
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Where is this nice-sounding island to which you would banish the sinners? Is it big? How are the beaches? Nicotine consumption has been in decline for a long time. I'm not convinced that all the others have been increasing. Can you provide any evidence, or is it just your intuition?

Unrepentant sinners(wolves) that intentionally corrupt others with there avarice and vices.

Pornography in all forms including prostitution increase is recorded and easily verifiable by the internet which is it's main form of communication/delivery now; the internet itself wasn't available up until some 15+ years ago. Do the math!
Food production has grown due to the increase in population and thusly their consumption. Casinos(gambling)are more readily available throughout most of the states, which with most states were considered illegal and banned some 20+ years ago, now with their growth it is resulting in higher concentration of gamblers and then the increase chance in addiction to greed. Not to mention horse tracks,etc. 15 years ago in my state a ban was lifted , now we have major casinos all in every county.

The state I live in is one of the 4 leading areas for coven activity, with the freedom of religion act the "wiccan" (IT"S A COVEN OF WITCHCRAFT PRACTIONERS PEOPLE!!!)organization were allowed rights declaring thier PRACTICES the same as a religion and thusly more people were inclined to enlist in their satanic ritualization because the fear ratio was desensitized and the additional childrens books written by a certain author also amplified interest and then ultimately the growth of practitioners. Witchcraft is NOT a religion it is a practice of satanic activities that are not based on faith, but on the fundemental attempt to grow in wickedness or perveted power.
Idolatries is self-explanatory; investigate the industrial revolution as one example....more, more, more junk production with a faster process at cheaper cost making "things" false gods more easily accessible and affordable.
"You cannot have two masters, you will love one and hate the other, you cannot serve both GOD and money!"




GOD bless and peace be with you in JESUS CHRIST.

You say you live in a state, is it state as in United States?
 
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Isn't reason, sense, etc....wisdom?

I mean after all doesn't common sense dictate wisdom or wisdom dictate common sense? Then by all means why would anyone want to trample wisdom which is what god said is one of the greatest gifts a man can be bestowed with.

Sometimes we listen to reason or applied common sense from others; like man, when we should be listening to GOD the father in heaven and his son lord JESUS CHRIST.

"Wasn't Luther just a man?"
 
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The state I live in is one of the 4 leading areas for coven activity, with the freedom of religion act the "wiccan" (IT"S A COVEN OF WITCHCRAFT PRACTIONERS PEOPLE!!!)organization were allowed rights declaring thier PRACTICES the same as a religion...

Is this the act of damnable heresy you are speaking of? How have we managed to survive 236 years under such license to a sin!

Witchcraft is NOT a religion it is a practice of satanic activities that are not based on faith, but on the fundemental attempt to grow in wickedness or perveted power.

The first amendment protects the practice of all religions, even the silly Christian heresy of Luciferianism which has nothing to do with Wicca but that is neither here nor there.
 
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I have to ask and question about the current state of our society? It would seem that we sheep are being overrun with wolves. looking at the condition of just the US one can easily identify and surmise the rampant freedoms the wolves have benefitted from, and how they have propagated and infested the sheeps pen.

:confused:

40-50 years ago what is now allowed was illegal, banned, prohibited and percieved and accepted as ill-mannered and grossly wrong to our welfare and stability. It angers me because we should be able to live in a peaceble and secure country or world for that matter without corrosion, corruption and safe from the harms of those corruptive practices.

:confused:

The increase of immorality has grown exponentially. We have increased gambling, narcotics, porn and prostitution, nicotine, witchcraft, processed foods, chemical toxins, idolatries(people/merchandise-seriously "How many vehicles do we need, or how many different types of houses, etc.?"),among other things. It all is overwhelming, unneccassary and sickening.

Increased Gambling: What's immoral about gambling? I don't gamble myself, however if someone wants to go down to the slots, let them. The vast majority of society is quite able to gamble safely and not overdo it.

Narcotics: I dispute this, there's been high levels of narcotics use throughout American history. It's just within the last 30 years that they've had absurd jail terms for users of narcotics.

Porn: Access to porn has gotten easier with the rise of the internet, but again, what's immoral about it. You're watching two people have sex in a video they are aware is going to be viewed by other people. What's the big deal?

Nicotine: Cigarette use has been in sharp decline over the last 40-50 years, I can't believe you'd even try to argue that point.

Witchcraft: Huh? I'm not aware of any witches running around. There were a few people I knew in high school that followed wicca, but I doubt they still do present day. Regardless, we're talking a very small percentage of the population.

Processed Foods: What's immoral about processed foods? Unhealthy perhaps, but immoral? I don't see how you make that connection.

Chemical Toxins: Are you serious? The first half of the 20th century was far worse with the handling of chemical toxins. Check out the love canal in Buffalo for a good example.

Idolatries: The economy has always depended on people wanting more stuff. This was also true far longer ago than 40-50 years. Keep in mind however the useless trinkets today would have been the cool gadgets of the early 1900s, so you have to take the times in context.

"All of these perversions have proven to be unhealthy, unneccessary and corruptive to the body, the mind and probably the soul.

Most of the stuff you listed I wouldn't label as perversions, and I don't see how any outside of nicotine or processed foods would damage your body or mind.

Why doesn't the government ban anything related to activities, lifestyles and practices that are fundamentally immoral and dangerous to our well being? Removing and cleansing our society of these things, practices and going so far as to remove the wolves(practioners) from our society or sheeps pen.

Because we happen to live in a free society, and not Afghanistan. Look what the morality police were able to accomplish over there.

Prison system is flawed and I'm talking about all the destructive(short/long-term)human inhibitants/practices.

I agree with you that the prison system needs serious reforming.

I just don't see the "one nation under GOD" anymore,

Speaking of things that happened within roughly the last 50 years, one nation "under god" was not added to the pledge until the 1950s. Prior to that, the phrase did not exist. If you want to get back to the golden age of the United States, a good way to start would be by removing that unconstitutional and divisive sentence from the pledge.

it's been saturated with to much immorality and now we have an over-abundance of heathens, and pagans were they don't and never belonged, at least those unrepentant ones.

Actually, going by the first amendment, heathens and pagans (or followers of any other religion) have every right to be here as you do. In fact, I'd argue that your statement flies in the face of the letter, and spirit of the constitution, and as a result, if anyone doesn't belong, it's you.

I'm mean; think about it, "Would you want an actual unrepetant thief, a murder, sex offender living within your very home?!!" "What would ultimately happen if the occupants were not willing to repent or STOP their crime while residing in your place of residence?"

Um.... no? First off someone like that would not be welcome in my home. Secondly, if someone like that was in my home, I'd call the police.

"Why do we keep allowing wolves in our pens, it is they're very nature to devour the sheep and ultimately destroy the flock."

"What will happen to a satchel of apples if they are mixed with worms or flies?"

This is a practical view of our current world condition.

Maybe the condition of the little world you've created in your head... but that's not the case in the real world where the rest of us live.

STOPPING this insanity by removing that which is causing the problem is the ultimate cure to a healthy body or sheeps pen.

WE CAN"T KEEP LIVING AMONGST WOLVES FOR THE SLAUGHTER.........SO WHY DO WE?!!!!!

Nobody is forcing you to live where you live. Why not move to a country that is dominated by the christian church?

You will know them by their fangs, bite and tongues.

I don't think I've ever met anyone with fangs. And to my knowledge I haven't been bitten by anyone in the recent past either.

My answer is banishment, if they're unwillingly unrepentant, banish them to two remote inescapable islands or land masses one for women, and one for men, that have the means for self sufficient living. Let them fend for themselves keeping their debased minds, and wickedness far removed from the sheep's pen or christian congregration. Although provide a foundation for their hopeful enlightenment and repentance.

Uh huh... I have a better idea, why don't you and your other Chrisitan Taliban folks go to these islands, set up your Christian paradise, then tell us how it's working out for you.

P.S. You are aware banishment was the first thing that the Nazis planned on doing to the Jews, and when this became impractical, they decided to kill them all instead? You might want to look at the historical lessons of your ideas and see what other types of people have had similar ideas.

The scriptures tells us the pretty much the same thing, counsel them a few times , then have nothing to do with those whom won't listen and are unrepentant. Assuredly they have a reprobate minds.

And why would I care about what's in your scripture? Your scripture also says that light was created before the sun was.

We cannot afford to keep allowing this corruption and corrossion to our christian congregation brothers and sisters.

Then isolate yourself somewhere and leave us alone.

One of the most overlooked sins is idolatry. All that "STUFF" and "THINGS" that have become GODS to us-cellphones, houses, food, autos,etc, MONEY!" It has to change for our genuine true christian lives to prsper effectively.

And how do you know "sin" exists?

Christians cannot keep living among the wicked and hope to stay clean without dire consequences.

Well, apparently you have two islands you can move to. Have fun!

Love thy neighbor as thyself-

My irony meter just went off

genuine love like honorable parent's loving their children discipline them when they do wrong. This is the same for the love of our neighbor, if they are unwilling to behave/repent, causing friction, turmoil, implanting seeds and sowing seeds of evil where ever they trod then provide a place where they're heathenism is not endangering healthy morale living.

So what you're saying is that you'd be willing to abandon your children on a desert island as well if you think they're misbehaving too much?

GOD bless and peace be with you in JESUS CHRIST.:crossrc:

And the flying spaghetti monster (cheese be upon him) sends his noodly blessings to you too.
 
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A How have we managed to survive 236 years under such license to a sin!

B even the silly Christian heresy of Luciferianism which has nothing to do with Wicca but that is neither here nor there.

A- enough said.
B- Hmmmm....Christianity is in opposition to lucifer. Doesn't oppositition require the two to have nothing to do with one another?
 
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B- Hmmmm....Christianity is in opposition to lucifer. Doesn't oppositition require the two to have nothing to do with one another.

Luciferians are Christian heretics because they accept the Christian theistic view they just direct their worship to Lucifer. Also their religious views are just as protected by the first amendment as yours are.
 
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