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Can I use my on made up favorite saying? (So, technically, a quote from me?)

If it counts, my response to adults telling me that they forget things and, thus, must be getting old:

If forgetting things is a sign of senility, I've been senile since I can remember.

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J. H. Merle d'Aubigne (1794-1872) in his The History of the Reformation in England states that
To believe in the power of man in the work of regeneration is the great heresy of Rome, and from that error has come the ruin of the Church. Conversion proceeds from the grace of God alone, and the system which ascribes it partly to man and partly to God is worse than Pelagianism.
 
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"We like God reigning in a universal way, as in keeping hurricanes out to sea, or keeping the planets in their fixed orbits. We especially like God keeping traffic moving smoothly as we go to work. In these situations, we endure God on His throne, and if He obediently sits on this throne, built by our egocentric imaginations, we will lift holy hands singing, "Our God Reigns!""
Michael Bremmer
 
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"Long my imprisoned spirit lay

Fast bound in sin and nature's night;

Thine eye diffused a quickening ray;

I woke; the dungeon flamed with light;

My chains fell off; my heart was free:

I rose, went forth, and followed thee." charles Wesley

Never understood how Charles could write such beautiful and scriptural songs, while John had so much doctrinally wrong.

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Thinking Straight About Tolerance ,Douglas Groothuis The Kingdom of God commands our full allegiance (Matthew 6:33), but the world, the flesh, and the devil nip at our souls and entice us to defect (1 John 2:15-17). Today, many insist that good people never assert that "their religion" is the only way. Rather, we must accept all religions. Such "tolerance" is deemed mandatory in our pluralistic nation. But when the pressure is on, Kingdom people need to be able to think straight about religious tolerance. A recent cover story in US News and World Report, titled "Faith in America," reported that 69% of Americans say that religion is "very important" to them. Over half attend religious services at least once a week. Eighty-four percent claim to be Christians, although the numbers of adherents of other religions is rapidly growing. Eighty-six percent of non-Christians say that all religions "have elements of truth." Only 19% of self-described Christians claim that Christianity is "the only true religion," while 77% reject the exclusivity of Christianity and instead believe that all religions have some truth. Although Christ is the only way of salvation (Acts 4:12), other religions (especially Judaism) do express some truths, even if they cannot deliver the saving gospel itself. Nevertheless, these statistics reveal a failure of nerve on the part of many Christians. The US News article mentions that many who claim that all religions have elements of truth also admit that they know little about other religions. This brand of tolerance is based on ignorance rather than on fact. Religions differ radically on significant beliefs, such as ultimate reality, the human condition, and salvation. When one religion teaches what another denies, both cannot be true. Islam denies that Jesus is divine and the Bible repeatedly affirms it (John 1:1-3; Col. 2:9). Both cannot be true. This is reality, not intolerance. When I give lecture called "Are All Religions One?" at secular college campuses, and the students hear an explanation of the differences between religions, many respond thoughtfully and some show an interest in Christ. What should Christians think about tolerance? First, we need to develop a tenacious commitment to the truthfulness of Scripture (2 Timothy 3:15-17). When our worldview is defined by biblical truth and not opinion polls, we do not become narrow-minded; rather, we find freedom in explaining and defending our beliefs (John 8:31-32; 1 Peter 3:15-17). Ravi Zacharias defends Christianity in many public forums and also shows the willingness to discuss any objections to it during a question-answer time. While not all Christians share his intellectual ability, every Christian can combine strong faith and an openness to dialogue. This often disarms non-Christians who suspect that Christians are unthinking dogmatists. Second, like Paul, we need to be passionate about people's salvation (Romans 9:1-3). We cannot pretend that all religions are pleasing to God (Matthew 7:13). However, we can offer people the promise of redemption because the gospel of grace is open to everyone (Acts 17:30). Third, while we cannot endorse or overlook religious falsity, we can love those of other faiths. Jesus said to love our neighbor as ourselves (Matthew 22:39), and this includes non-Christians. The gospel never coerces anyone to accept Christ. The prophets and apostles presented God's truth with integrity and trusted their sovereign God for the results. Fourth, when people talk of "my God" and "my spirituality" we should emphasize that Christianity is not a designer religion, custom-fit for our tastes. We bear witness to God's gracious revelation of truth. As G.K. Chesterton put it in Orthodoxy: "I won't call Christianity my religion, because I didn't make it up. God and humanity made it, and it made me." This emphasis helps defuse the objection that Christians are trying to "ram their religion down other people's throats." No. We are more like the physician who prescribes a cure for an otherwise terminal disease. The sick need to know the truth about what will save them, not their choice of "religious preferences." How should tolerate Christians members of other religions? By loving them and bringing the truth to them. We endorse their religious freedom, but the gospel never allows us to be indifferent to their eternal destinies. This article originally appeared in the September/October 2002 issue of Moody Magazine (Vol. 103, No.1) Used with permission by Moody Magazine and Douglas Groothuis. Douglas Groothuis is associate professor of philosophy at Denver Seminary and the author of "On Jesus" and "On Pascal."
 
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Tony Capoccia(speaking on the movie, The Passion of the Christ)
Charles Spurgeon once said, "If you have to give a carnival to get people to come to church, then you will have to keep giving carnivals to keep them coming back." If we have to produce an action thriller with two hours of gore and "R" rated violence to get the unsaved to seek Christ, then what will be the encore so we can keep them seeking?
 
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The Doctrines of Grace
(“reformed theology”)
Grace Needed
Grace Conceived
Grace Secured
Grace Applied
Grace Victorious
Salvation Required
Salvation Planned
Salvation Purchased
Salvation Activated
Salvation Perfected
Total Depravity
Unconditional Election
Limited Atonement
Irresistible Grace
Perseverance of the Saints
The real questions operating behind the discussions:
1. How bad was the need
2.
How effective was the cure
3.
Who was the cure applied to
Main Points of “reformed theology” (8):
1. All the components of salvation are a gift from God:
forgiveness,
justification,
eternal life,
will power to have faith,
belief,
repentance;

therefore God gets all the glory: Rom. 11:33; 1 Cor.4:7
2. The will of fallen man was and is not free but mastered and enslaved to sin and incapable of turning from its sin: Jn. 3:19-20; Jer. 13:23; Rom. 8:5-8
3. The will of saved man is changed and freed from sin’s tyranny and able to obey, worship, seek, believe and trust God, even though it is occasionally used to dishonor God: Rom. 5:9-10; 12:1-2; Gal. 5:24-25
4. The Cross of Christ did more than just make salvation possible with the final decision to be made by man; it actually made salvation (reconciliation) a reality for the elect: Rom. 5:10; 2 Cor. 5:18-21; Col. 1:21-22; Heb. 9:11-14
5. God’s sovereign prerogative is the determining factor in who gets saved, that is, God has the sole divine right to save and have mercy on whom he will: Rom. 9:10-25; Rev. 13:8
6. God determined who would be saved in eternity past based upon nothing he foresaw in us, but entirely on his own decision to love and elect certain people: Eph. 1:4-11
7. The Holy Spirit changes the rebellious will of an unbeliever, making him desirous and willing to repent and believe, which he inevitably does: Rom. 8:30; 1 Cor. 6:11; 1 Cor. 12:3; 2 Cor 3:6; 2 Cor. 3:17-18; 1 Peter 1:2
8. Every true believer (the elect) will make it to heaven, never lose his salvation, and ultimately persevere in the faith due to God’s power and strength: Jn. 10:27-30; Rom. 8:29-30; Phil. 1:6; 1 Peter 1:3-5; 1 Thess. 5:23,24
 
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(William Plumer, "Sinners Saved by Unmerited Kindness")

In his old age, when he could no longer see to read, John
Newton heard someone recite this text, "By the grace of
God I am what I am." He remained silent a short time and
then said: "I am not what I ought to be. Ah, how imperfect
and deficient! I am not what I wish to be. I abhor that which
is evil, and I would cleave to that which is good. I am not
what I hope to be. Soon, soon I shall put off mortality,
and with mortality all sin and imperfection. Though I am not what I ought to be, what I wish to be,
and what I hope to be; yet I can truly say, I am not what
I once was
--a slave to sin and Satan! I can heartily join
with the apostle and acknowledge--By the grace of God I
am what I am!"
 
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Preservation is but the continuation of creation, then non-interruption ofthe first act of divine power and love. The strong spirit of the highest angelneeds the active concurrence of God every moment, lest it should fall backinto its original nothingness.F. W. Faber.
 
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In his old age, when he could no longer see to read, John
Newton heard someone recite this text, "By the grace of
God I am what I am." He remained silent a short time and
then said: "I am not what I ought to be. Ah, how imperfect
and deficient! I am not what I wish to be. I abhor that which
is evil, and I would cleave to that which is good. I am not
what I hope to be. Soon, soon I shall put off mortality,
and with mortality all sin and imperfection.
Though I am not what I ought to be, what I wish to be,
and what I hope to be; yet I can truly say,
I am not what
I once was
--a slave to sin and Satan! I can heartily join
with the apostle and acknowledge--By the grace of God I
am what I am!"

....:wave:
 
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"But what if the foreknowledge of God, and the liberty of the will cannot be reconcilled by man? Shall we therefore deny a perfection in God to support a liberty in ourselves? Shall we rather fasten ignorance upon God, and accuse Him of blindness to maintain our liberty?" From the book Discourses Upon the Existence and Attributes of God , [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]STEPHEN CHARNOCK[/FONT]​
 
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A presupposition is a belief that takes precedence over another and therefore serves as a criterion for another. An ultimate presupposition is a belief over which no other takes precedence. For a Christian, the content of Scripture must serve as his ultimate presupposition.... This doctrine is merely the outworking of the lordship of God in the area of human thought. It merely applies the doctrine of scriptural infallibility to the realm of knowing. (Doctrine of Knowledge of God, 45)John M. Frame
 
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The greatest judgment which God Himself can, in this present life, inflict upon a man is, to leave him in the hand of his own boasted free-will.
-AUGUSTUS TOPLADY


"Reformed definition of free will: "The power to choose according to one's strongest motive, nature and character." In the unregenerate, to freely choose evil. In the regenerate, to freely choose God and the good."
- Byron Curtis
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If I profess, with the loudest voice and clearest exposition, every portion of the truth of God except precisely that little point which the world and the devil are at that moment attacking, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I may be professing Christ. Where the battle rages there the loyalty of the soldier is proved, and to be steady on all the battle field besides is mere flight and disgrace if he flinches at that point.
Martin Luther
 
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