Shape-shifting Dinosaurs

[JohnEmmett]

okay then.

You are comfortable at ground zero

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

I know there are very many types of churches/practices, having visited a lot of different churches. Is that type you mention one that practiced specifically "Love your neighbor as yourself" (and "love one another"), and when you say "practicing" does that mean you did that -- loved everyone? It's kind of radical, I think. I think that "few" do that. But often I think 'practicing' might mean instead entirely other things like church attendance, so I'm asking from genuine interest see.

It was Southern Baptist Evangelical. I know the tendency is to try and analyze how I believed and whether I believed correctly, but that's really not the issue. I dabbled in Catholicism, Presbytarian, and other denominations, but ultimately the question arose as to how we knew what was being taught, how we knew any of it was true and why the bible stories don't align with reality, yet we're told to believe it's all true and accurate.

It wasn't enough.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

You are comfortable at ground zero

I feel like this is some kind of insult. Whatever.

 

[JohnEmmett]

I feel like this is some kind of insult. Whatever.

Not true enough religion … is still better than nothing

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Yes but whales have lungs, not gills.

And according to evolution doctrine, lungs developed on land.

Right, because whales evolved from land animals. We have the fossils. Seals have lungs too. And manatees. And dugongs. And dolphins.

and "doctrine" LOL

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Not true enough religion … is still better than nothing

Nah. I disagree. It works just fine for me.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Nah. I disagree. It works just fine for me.

Do you care if you become an animal… ?

 

[AV1611VET]

... yet we're told to believe it's all true and accurate.

In all seriousness -- and kudos to you for not saying it -- I have to give you credit for not saying what I thought surely was coming.

To wit, "... yet we're told not to ask questions."

I don't know how many videos I've watched now, where someone "deconverts" because they had questions they wanted to ask their pastor, but was told to SHUSH.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Do you care if you become an animal… ?

How tiresome. We ARE animals. But I suspect you mean some kind of amoral savage, rudderless without any guidance from a god or religion or philosophy, yeah?

 

[JohnEmmett]

But I suspect you mean

I mean becoming stuck in the animal realm


For countless lives…

 

[AV1611VET]

Right, because whales evolved from land animals.

I know the doctrine.

I just thought it was something you might have missed mentioning, when you said:

"Fossils indicate that big sea creatures were around before any significant land animals."

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

In all seriousness -- and kudos to you for not saying it -- I have to give you credit for not saying what I thought surely was coming.

To wit, "... yet we're told not to ask questions."

I don't know how many videos I've watched now, where someone "deconverts" because they had questions they wanted to ask their pastor, but was told to SHUSH.

It happened. I was told not to learn "wrong" things or question things that went against the doctrine. Evolution for one. When I deconverted I felt free to actually explore and learn what the science actually said instead of the caricature presented by pastors and youth ministers.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

I mean becoming stuck in the animal realm


For countless lives

Um, okay.

 

[AV1611VET]

We ARE animals.

And, as animals, should some be expected to go feral at times? or are we somehow exempt from that negative aspect of animalia?

 

[JohnEmmett]

Um, okay.

…

 

[AV1611VET]

In all seriousness -- and kudos to you for not saying it -- I have to give you credit for not saying what I thought surely was coming.

To wit, "... yet we're told not to ask questions."

It happened.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

I know the doctrine.

I just thought it was something you might have missed mentioning, when you said:

"Fossils indicate that big sea creatures were around before any significant land animals."

I did not say that. Not sure why you put it in quotes. And the size isnt the issue. It's the structure and physical traits of the animals.

 

[AV1611VET]

Already you cannot appreciate the truth.

That man doesn't have a soul, yet somehow keeps coming back to work out his karma?

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Already you cannot appreciate the truth


Neither can a dog

Again, I'm feeling like this is an insult. Why do you keep doing that?

The "truth?"

 

[JohnEmmett]

That man doesn't have a soul, yet somehow keeps coming back to work out his karma?

No soul is not the teaching