Shape-shifting Dinosaurs

[AV1611VET]

Here is an excellent video on shape-shifting dinosaurs by Jack Horner:

He basically points out that what scientists think are different dinosaur species, are actually one and the same, but at different stages of age.

For example, if you skip to 08:45 and start watching, he points out that what scientists think are three different dinosaurs: dracorex, stygimoloch, and pachycephalosarus, are actually one and the same, but at different ages.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

There were indication of this before Horner and the literature out after his 2009 paper seems to lean toward agreeing with him (that is moving toward consensus), so once again science self-corrects!

https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.318.5854.1236

Pachycephalosaurus

Once again one of the most famous dinosaurs of all time is actually‭ ‬represented by some of the most incomplete fossil material.‭ ‬To date

www.prehistoric-wildlife.com

Dinosaur Census Reveals Abundant Tyrannosaurus and Rare Ontogenetic Stages in the Upper Cretaceous Hell Creek Formation (Maastrichtian), Montana, USA

Background A dinosaur census recorded during the Hell Creek Project (1999–2009) incorporates multiple lines of evidence from geography, taphohistory, stratigraphy, phylogeny and ontogeny to investigate the relative abundance of large dinosaurs preserved in the Upper Cretaceous Hell Creek...

journals.plos.org

Integrating developmental biology and the fossil record of reptiles | The International Journal of Developmental Biology

Numerous new discoveries and new research techniques have influenced our understanding of reptile development from a palaeontological perspective. They suggest for example that transition from mineralized to leathery eggshells and from oviparity to viviparity appeared much more often in the...

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Cranial Pathologies in a Specimen of Pachycephalosaurus

Background A frontoparietal dome of a large pachycephalosaurid collected from the Upper Cretaceous Hell Creek Formation in 2001 is identified as Pachycephalosaurus wyomingensis. The specimen features two large oval depressions on the dorsal surface, accompanied by numerous circular pits on the...

journals.plos.org

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02724634.2012.679878

I like how you subtly try to separate Horner from "scientists." Horner is one of those nefarious scientist doing the actual science you detest. He "took a hike" and found evidence of something, wrote some papers with evidence and analysis and the rest of the scientific community said, "Yeah, you just might be right! We'll keep analyzing the fossils with this new info in mind."

Pretty sure he doesn't provide you any support for your "miracles erased evidence of the flood" conjecture or pretty much anything else you believe about the geological or paleontological history (or lack thereof) of Earth.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Dinosaurs Only 20,000 Years Old?

 

[JohnEmmett]

The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education…

Einstein

 

[Paulos23]

Dinosaurs Only 20,000 Years Old?

This is so bad....

Carbon 14 dating only goes back as far as 60,000 years, and given that the bones were found in a settlement/rock much older than that, that result should be ignored. When they date bones, they don't just use radiometric dating but other evidence as well, like the depth of the find, how many strata there are on top of it, etc.

Just relying on one radiometric dating that isn't even meant to measure that far back is not good practice.

 

[Paulos23]

The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education…

Einstein

If you are dealing with rote learning sure, but don't forget to use your mind to check if what your being told is true.

 

[JohnEmmett]

If you are dealing with rote learning sure,

I predicted you would know better than to accept the truth

 

[JohnEmmett]

This is so bad....

I like how science is always against itself

 

[Paulos23]

I predicted you would know better than to accept the truth

Not when it doesn't line up with other facts.

Look, I am all for crazy discoveries. But the more wild the discovery, the more it needs to be scrutinized and tested. Just taking one bad test and claiming that Dinosaur bones are not that old is bad. Repeating the test with better equipment, a different team, and experts in the field of radiation dating, and you might have something.

The thing is, things like this tend to get reported before they are retested and confirmed. This is so far out there that I am willing to say this is bunk until it gets retested.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Repeating the test with better equipment, a different team, and experts in the field of radiation dating, and you might have something.

they did repeat the test with a different team

 

[Paulos23]

I like how science is always against itself

Science is always testing and confirming itself. Sometimes gaps or things that where missed show up. That is how we expand our knowledge.

 

[JohnEmmett]

That is how we expand our knowledge.

…

 

[AV1611VET]

Not when it doesn't line up with other facts.

Look, I am all for crazy discoveries. But the more wild the discovery, the more it needs to be scrutinized and tested. Just taking one bad test and claiming that Dinosaur bones are not that old is bad. Repeating the test with better equipment, a different team, and experts in the field of radiation dating, and you might have something.

The thing is, things like this tend to get reported before they are retested and confirmed. This is so far out there that I am willing to say this is bunk until it gets retested.

Yellow science, supported by yellow journalism?

 

[Paulos23]

they did repeat the test with a different team

You have more than just a youtube link? Because I can't find another report on it.

 

[JohnEmmett]

You have more than just a youtube link? Because I can't find another report on it.

https://newgeology.us/presentation48.html

 

[AV1611VET]

Pretty sure he doesn't provide you any support for your "miracles erased evidence of the flood" conjecture ...

Interesting word choice.

You couldn't say "cleaned up," could you?

You used "erased" instead.

And you did that right after saying:

I like how you subtly try to separate Horner from "scientists."

 

[Lost4words]

Superb video AV! Very informative indeed. The speaker was awesome.

Yea, could very well have been as he stated but, i know for a fact that us Corgi's are unique!!!

 

[Paulos23]

https://newgeology.us/presentation48.html

Your link shows they were scolded by their peers for doing the tests. And the fact they haven't convinced other scientists tells me that something is fishy with their data. A large part of science is consensus, which they don't have here. Their methodology is poor, which is enough to get their results ignored by the scientific community.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And they don't have that here.

 

[AV1611VET]

Superb video AV! Very informative indeed. The speaker was awesome.

Yea, could very well have been as he stated but, i know for a fact that us Corgi's are unique!!!

 

[JohnEmmett]

Your link shows they were scolded by their peers for doing the tests.

that’s what happens in science, don’t you know