Sexual union abolished in Heaven? I have questions.

[Albion]

So you are saying that we will still be married---if we're married on earth--providing, of course, that your spouse is also saved. No one else can be married as no one is given in marriage. So, according to you, there is going to be a small group of people who are still married to each other because both spouses were saved--Is that right??

I don't know that I can agree that this will be a small group, considering that most Christians do marry and that there have been more Christians in history than members of any other religion. However, there is every reason to believe that we will be ourselves in heaven and this presumes that we will recognize others as the persons who lived on Earth. The idea of your spouse knowing you in heaven is not a far-fetched idea.

But my main point was just to indicate that this whole issue rests upon one verse and that verse does not actually say "No one will be married in heaven." Read closely or carefully, the meaning seems to be that no marrying will occur.

group are the only ones who will be doing the horizontal mambo and having children

No, there's no reason to assume that, and there are several good reasons to dismiss it as a possibility.

 

[Hieronymus]

Does anyone know why there will no longer be any sexual unions in Heaven? I've got questions because I know that we will still be able to eat food.

No flesh and hormones in heaven, not hor(mon)y but harmony.

 

[mmksparbud]

Well, that didn't tell me what you think is going to happen here.
Nobody ever said we will not know each other in heaven--we're not going to be an island unto ourselves. There will be close companionships, why not? As I said, sex and intimacy are not the same thing, one can have one without the other. The point is--what is the purpose of marriage---what is it you think will be going on? you didn't answer. You just say the statement says no giving in marriage---so what does that mean to you? What about all the questions your point of view brings up?? The question put to Jesus was which of the 7 husbands the woman had would be her spouse in heaven---all 7 were her legitimate husbands--are you proposing that all those single people have no one while there will be some with several spouses?? Are you saying Jesus never answered their question? Cause he flatly said "
"Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
They were wrong to even as the question. You also did not answer the question about how are the angels in heaven in relation to marriage? For how they are, is how we will be---according to Jesus.

 

[Albion]

Well, that didn't tell me what you think is going to happen here.
Nobody ever said we will not know each other in heaven--we're not going to be an island unto ourselves. There will be close companionships, why not?

Then "There you go!" (as they say).

We have reason to believe that our spouses will still be our spouses in heaven.

As I said, sex and intimacy are not the same thing, one can have one without the other. The point is--what is the purpose of marriage---what is it you think will be going on? you didn't answer.

I think that there is plenty to marriage other than children and the "horizontal mambo." This shouldn't need to be explained.

You just say the statement says no giving in marriage---so what does that mean to you?

See the above.

What about all the questions your point of view brings up?? The question put to Jesus was which of the 7 husbands the woman had would be her spouse in heaven---all 7 were her legitimate husbands--are you proposing that all those single people have no one while there will be some with several spouses?? Are you saying Jesus never answered their question? Cause he flatly said "Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
They were wrong to even as the question. You also did not answer the question about how are the angels in heaven in relation to marriage? For how they are, is how we will be---according to Jesus.

I assumed that you would understand that being like angels means non-physical and that means, for example, not producing children. As for your other questions, my answer is that these are not explained in that passage or elsewhere, nor should we expect that everything about the afterlife has to be explained in detail to us in this life or that we are capable of understanding it if it were. John 20:30-31.

 

[mmksparbud]

Then "There you go!" (as they say).

We have reason to believe that our spouses will still be our spouses in heaven.


I think that there is plenty to marriage other than children and the "horizontal mambo." This shouldn't need to be explained.


See the above.


I assumed that you would understand that being like angels means non-physical and that means, for example, not producing children. As for your other questions, my answer is that these are not explained in that passage or elsewhere, nor should we expect that everything about the afterlife has to be explained in detail to us in this life or that we are capable of understanding it if it were. John 20:30-31.

That is exactly right--a lot more to marriage than sex and children---however, that is the reason for the legal institution of it, It protects the wife and children. Without sex and children, there is no need of any such requirement for 2 people to have a close relationship. And again--does that woman have 7 spouses in heaven?? And others have none? Or are we all going to be as the angels---close friends. And what is wrong with that? Why does a legal marriage contract have to exist where none is needed? Why does "not giving in marriage" mean that no one will get married but those who are married will remain so instead of simply there is no marriage? We will be just one big happy family--why does that bother some people?? A marriage contract excludes others from that concept of 2 people being one---if we are all one in God, then what exactly is the problem?? Not to mention that the contract only said until death. And this way--no one has to leave their mother and father to be together and before God there is neither male nor female anyway. Whatever God takes away, He replaces with something much better.

 

[Albion]

That is exactly right--a lot more to marriage than sex and children---however, that is the reason for the legal institution of it, It protects the wife and children. Without sex and children, there is no need of any such requirement for 2 people to have a close relationship.

I can't agree with that, and I've never heard a cleric or theologian advocate your side of that issue, either. FWIW, the Form for the Solemnization of Matrimony clearly states that there are three causes for which Matrimony was instituted: 1. for children, 2. for "a remedy against sin and to avoid fornication," and 3. "It was ordained for the mutual society, help, and comfort, that the one ought to have of the other...."

That's my view of the matter also.

 

[mmksparbud]

Well, nothing is stated about children, there is no problem with sin, for sin shall not rise again, and we will all have the comfort and happiness of the other in mind anyway--so still no need of it.

 

[creator]

There can be no sex outside of marriage--God has said so. It is sin--so if you are not married, then you are not able to have sex and remain sinless.

Perhaps you missed my post (#12, above)...?

The state of all in heaven is married. In the present age, marriage is a ceremonial law that looks forward to that state. While sex outside of marriage may presently be sin by God's decree, in the new heavens and new earth, there will be no one "outside of marriage" and so the present restrictions and limitations of marriage as we know it will be lifted.

 

[mmksparbud]

We will all be spiritually, symbolically married to God---not each other.

Rom_8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rev_19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

Isa_54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

Jer_31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

 

[Light of the East]

Does anyone know why there will no longer be any sexual unions in Heaven? I've got questions because I know that we will still be able to eat food.

You might find this interesting:

Will There Be Sex In Heaven?

 

[StrugglingWithLife]

Why doesn't sex and marriage unions exist in heaven? I think that's cruel I'm saying this as someone who hasn't found true love, why do so many Christians take love and sex for granted?

 

[sdowney717]

Matthew 22:24-33New King James Version (NKJV)
24 saying: “Teacher, Moses said that if a man dies, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife and raise up offspring for his brother. 25 Now there were with us seven brothers. The first died after he had married, and having no offspring, left his wife to his brother. 26 Likewise the second also, and the third, even to the seventh. 27 Last of all the woman died also. 28 Therefore, in the resurrection, whose wife of the seven will she be? For they all had her.”

29 Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven. 31 But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God, saying, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’?God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.” 33 And when the multitudes heard this, they were astonished at His teaching.

In the resurrection we shall all be changed, the bodies we have now we will not have then.
Key to understanding this is study what happens to us in the resurrection to come, so understand the scriptures, and we need to understand God's power to transform-conform us all to the image of Christ.

 

[Bluesh1ft]

Let me throw something in to the conversation. In Genesis 6:2 "the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose."

If Sons of God are Angels, then how does this work? It could be Fallen Angels... but would they still be called "Sons of God"?

 

[KWCrazy]

I am pretty confident that if we are still married in heaven then there wild BE NO sex in Heaven.

 

[StrugglingWithLife]

Sorry for whining or complaining on here so often.

 

[Tree of Life]

No reproduction in heaven, so no need for sex I suppose.

Interestingly in Isaiah's account of the NH/NE there appears to be reproduction: Isaiah 65:17-25

 

[hedrick]

Interestingly in Isaiah's account of the NH/NE there appears to be reproduction: Isaiah 65:17-25

Also death, which is a more serious discrepancy. Either Isaiah and Jesus are talking about different things or they have significantly different visions of what is coming.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Does anyone know why there will no longer be any sexual unions in Heaven? I've got questions because I know that we will still be able to eat food.

The food and wine will be so good, you won't miss it.