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Do you have one? Have you ever had one?

I have one and it makes me soooo ashamed. I'm in my 50s and this gal is 18. She helps out with the worship team playing her violin. She's pretty,feminine,a true Christian,attending a Christian college.

The first time I saw her I had this love-awe pit in my stomach. Don't think of me as stupid or silly--I'm wise enough to know that nothing real could become of this. And I can hear you ladies now-raining recriminations upon me. When she was off to school it was nice ie I could simmer down ie these feelings that are SO stupid and irrational.

But someone must suffer the same way. It's intense,like I want to grab her and take her away (not REALLY)!
So far I've come up with this:

1 I've been without a relationship for a long time now (about 5 years,post divorce).

2 She reminds me of me at that age--driven,college,whole life before her,happy in Christian service,chance to get a GOOD marriage and do it right,involved in a fulfilling career. I want to share with her,hold her close, more than the sexual ideas.

Tell me your ideas,BEYOND the lust angle--I got that one. I hate this feeling,such a distraction.
 

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iambren ... I have definitely noticed when there is a time of no relationships or even a time of no sex that a hunger grows in a lot of people till they can't deny it any longer. So they have to do something about it. Its that place where we see in someone that they feel desperate in their look for someone. Which often turns others away from them. This was part of what was going on with B when I meet her a year ago on the singles cruise. I talked to the host on the singles cruise and she recognized it right away.
I see a lot of Christian advice for those divorced to stay single and deal with personal issues, to understand the reasons for their divorce and to get close to God. All those are valid reasons, but I also think in a few years it will set them up for a possible dangerous situation of feeling a strong need for a mate and them not being in the best frame of mind. I think that also fits in with Paul's comments about if a person(single) marries its not a sin.
I probably would have ended up where you are bren if I'd listened to the standard advice being given. But I new I needed to learn to communicate and I knew I wasn't going to learn that being a single guy! So I've been engaged with the ladies since my divorce 7 yrs ago. Its been one of the most blessed time in my life. I'm so glad I didn't listen to the advice out there.
 
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Do you have one? Have you ever had one?

I have one and it makes me soooo ashamed. I'm in my 50s and this gal is 18. She helps out with the worship team playing her violin. She's pretty,feminine,a true Christian,attending a Christian college.

The first time I saw her I had this love-awe pit in my stomach. Don't think of me as stupid or silly--I'm wise enough to know that nothing real could become of this. And I can hear you ladies now-raining recriminations upon me. When she was off to school it was nice ie I could simmer down ie these feelings that are SO stupid and irrational.

But someone must suffer the same way. It's intense,like I want to grab her and take her away (not REALLY)!
So far I've come up with this:

1 I've been without a relationship for a long time now (about 5 years,post divorce).

2 She reminds me of me at that age--driven,college,whole life before her,happy in Christian service,chance to get a GOOD marriage and do it right,involved in a fulfilling career. I want to share with her,hold her close, more than the sexual ideas.

Tell me your ideas,BEYOND the lust angle--I got that one. I hate this feeling,such a distraction.

Heres some thoughts of mine concerning your situation :

1. You've been given a sexual nature by the Creator and just because a person goes thru a divorce, looses both arms and legs , turns 60 , etc... it always remains. It is encumbant upon us however, to treat this nature of sexuality in a responsible manner which means lust-control , doing all you can to avoid certain situations where it could be easily fueled like provocative TV shows and movies , constantly being filled with the H.S. for power to overcome and to live your life in a pleasing Godly way. Sadly because you are not married any longer, you cannot use your sexuality in order to show love, appreciation , commitment to someone .... but you can show those things in other effective ways. Remembver, just because we've been given a sexual nature and just because our culture is supercharged being sexually illicit , we can still govern our actions and even thoughts according to scripture. Is it difficult for someone whos onece enjoyed a sex life being married ? Yes, it is...but its good to reme3mber that the sexual nature is just one of your natures given you and its meant for a very narrow specific purpose . That is in the context of marriage to be honoring to yourself, others, and most of all, your loving Creator.

2. When you look at this 18 year old sexy Christian Gal, see if you can defuse the lust situation by substituting something in its place...like.... praying for her Christian life, asking God to show her what he wants her to do for a career and spiritual service to him, that she is someones precious daughter , that you have the responsibility to encourage her if given the chance. All of this will help defuse her sexual appeal to you and get your thoughts inline.

3. If you are going thru times of intense struggle when you are in this girls presence, then, put some distance between you and her . Either choose to see her half as much and/or purposely avoid her when you are both in the same general location . No one has to know why you are doing this and chances are, no one will even catch on to it. But you will gain strength by being in control of the situation.

4. Don't be ashamed that you are attracted to this 18 year old who is some 36 years your junior because at 18 she is physically mature and eye catching to ANY typical Male . I would ask God to give you the ability to appreciate her outward beauty while you refocus on whatever is going on around you at the moment . This way, you will have a very limited focus on her physically.

5. Lastly, use this time of being alone without being in a relationship , to grow in your walk with Christ. Serve him more now that you have the time. Get into lots of Christian Groups so you get good fellowship. Be on the lookout for the chance to store up treasure in heaven since you've got the availability. Consider volunteering in para-church Ministry like Hospice or Soup Kitchen, etc....

6. Finally, don't dwell on the sexual . Dwell on other things that make up your life . Resign to the fact that the sexual was meant by God to be expressed only in marriage where the environment is a completely trusted and safe one , and its not meant to be used casually as our Culture brainwashes us with. Sexuality is a very sacred and honorable thing ..so, do all you can to maintain that Godly ideology and don't become like the Heathen who give God lip service but whos lifestyles are far from Gods approval.

Regards. David.
 
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iambren ... I have definitely noticed when there is a time of no relationships or even a time of no sex that a hunger grows in a lot of people till they can't deny it any longer. So they have to do something about it. Its that place where we see in someone that they feel desperate in their look for someone. Which often turns others away from them. This was part of what was going on with B when I meet her a year ago on the singles cruise. I talked to the host on the singles cruise and she recognized it right away.
I see a lot of Christian advice for those divorced to stay single and deal with personal issues, to understand the reasons for their divorce and to get close to God. All those are valid reasons, but I also think in a few years it will set them up for a possible dangerous situation of feeling a strong need for a mate and them not being in the best frame of mind. I think that also fits in with Paul's comments about if a person(single) marries its not a sin.
I probably would have ended up where you are bren if I'd listened to the standard advice being given. But I new I needed to learn to communicate and I knew I wasn't going to learn that being a single guy! So I've been engaged with the ladies since my divorce 7 yrs ago. Its been one of the most blessed time in my life. I'm so glad I didn't listen to the advice out there.

Yes,striving for relational legitimacy that fulfills the mis-directed. This gal has all the attributes I mentioned AND she strongly resembles my first love I had from 7-9th grade. It IS what I feel,what buttons are being pushed,and I DO feel silly, but like you I agree that it's a sign that my love is dying to flow into a real relationship.

I also wondered if other people had crushes.
 
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Heres some thoughts of mine concerning your situation :

1. You've been given a sexual nature by the Creator and just because a person goes thru a divorce, looses both arms and legs , turns 60 , etc... it always remains. It is encumbant upon us however, to treat this nature of sexuality in a responsible manner which means lust-control , doing all you can to avoid certain situations where it could be easily fueled like provocative TV shows and movies , constantly being filled with the H.S. for power to overcome and to live your life in a pleasing Godly way. Sadly because you are not married any longer, you cannot use your sexuality in order to show love, appreciation , commitment to someone .... but you can show those things in other effective ways. Remembver, just because we've been given a sexual nature and just because our culture is supercharged being sexually illicit , we can still govern our actions and even thoughts according to scripture. Is it difficult for someone whos onece enjoyed a sex life being married ? Yes, it is...but its good to reme3mber that the sexual nature is just one of your natures given you and its meant for a very narrow specific purpose . That is in the context of marriage to be honoring to yourself, others, and most of all, your loving Creator.

2. When you look at this 18 year old sexy Christian Gal, see if you can defuse the lust situation by substituting something in its place...like.... praying for her Christian life, asking God to show her what he wants her to do for a career and spiritual service to him, that she is someones precious daughter , that you have the responsibility to encourage her if given the chance. All of this will help defuse her sexual appeal to you and get your thoughts inline.

3. If you are going thru times of intense struggle when you are in this girls presence, then, put some distance between you and her . Either choose to see her half as much and/or purposely avoid her when you are both in the same general location . No one has to know why you are doing this and chances are, no one will even catch on to it. But you will gain strength by being in control of the situation.

4. Don't be ashamed that you are attracted to this 18 year old who is some 36 years your junior because at 18 she is physically mature and eye catching to ANY typical Male . I would ask God to give you the ability to appreciate her outward beauty while you refocus on whatever is going on around you at the moment . This way, you will have a very limited focus on her physically.

5. Lastly, use this time of being alone without being in a relationship , to grow in your walk with Christ. Serve him more now that you have the time. Get into lots of Christian Groups so you get good fellowship. Be on the lookout for the chance to store up treasure in heaven since you've got the availability. Consider volunteering in para-church Ministry like Hospice or Soup Kitchen, etc....

6. Finally, don't dwell on the sexual . Dwell on other things that make up your life . Resign to the fact that the sexual was meant by God to be expressed only in marriage where the environment is a completely trusted and safe one , and its not meant to be used casually as our Culture brainwashes us with. Sexuality is a very sacred and honorable thing ..so, do all you can to maintain that Godly ideology and don't become like the Heathen who give God lip service but whos lifestyles are far from Gods approval.

Regards. David.


David,I am in a similar situation. In the U.S. Navy,I was trained as a Clinical Laboratory Scientist (CLS). The job I have now .In the Navy,98% of the lab personnel were men,no lust problem there! But,in the civilan world, abot 98% of the lab personnel are women. In a hospital, most of the nurses are women .In the lab that in work in now ,most of the employees are women! Out of the 50 CLS', ,that are at my current place of work, only two are men, myself included. Therefore,I am seeing women all of the time.

Sometimes,I feel like a chicken-hawk that is trapped in a barn full of chicken coops.
But,when I am doing my plays for my church ,and secular plays,I do not have the time to be obsessed with women. I am subconciously and consciously thinking about my blocking(where I need to be at on stage at a certain time),my lines,and my lyrics(if I am singing).
I usually lose weight when I am performing because I am thinking about my character and not thinking about food.
But,I did stopped going to massage parlors,even though I crave the touch of a woman now and then. I used to think that the only way that I can get a woman to touch me is to go to a massage parlour. That is a lie!
At some Meet-Up groups(Dayhiker may know some,also) these women touch me for free! These women are not hookers,and I do not have to pay them to touch me. At these meet ups we massage each other .Sexual touching is not allowed, nor is it encouraged. We only say positive things to each other. One woman told me,"I bet you heat is as soft as your silk shirt!" Another woman told me,"S.....you are a......gift!" Now,if I had been told positive things like that by women when I was in my 20's,I would have had a positive attitude ,and would have attracted women who were my type.
Sadly to say,in my experiences,women who are not believers,are more loving towards me than Christian women are. I see more kindness,more gentleness, more affection,more,acceptance,and more "JESUS" in non-christian single women,than I do in Christian single women. It is supposed to be the other way around. Especially if I am to be......equally yoked!
 
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Do you have one? Have you ever had one?

I have one and it makes me soooo ashamed. I'm in my 50s and this gal is 18. She helps out with the worship team playing her violin. She's pretty,feminine,a true Christian,attending a Christian college.

The first time I saw her I had this love-awe pit in my stomach. Don't think of me as stupid or silly--I'm wise enough to know that nothing real could become of this. And I can hear you ladies now-raining recriminations upon me. When she was off to school it was nice ie I could simmer down ie these feelings that are SO stupid and irrational.

But someone must suffer the same way. It's intense,like I want to grab her and take her away (not REALLY)!
So far I've come up with this:

1 I've been without a relationship for a long time now (about 5 years,post divorce).

2 She reminds me of me at that age--driven,college,whole life before her,happy in Christian service,chance to get a GOOD marriage and do it right,involved in a fulfilling career. I want to share with her,hold her close, more than the sexual ideas.

Tell me your ideas,BEYOND the lust angle--I got that one. I hate this feeling,such a distraction.


I feel you are enjoying these feelings even though you say you hate them, I suggest you pray about it. Remember, if you think lustful thoughts, you are already guilty of the act, desist from it and repent. Feed your mind with the word of God. You can get a wife to help balance your sexual emotions and for companionship. God bless.
 
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iambren ... good to see your ready for a new love in your life. I've felt for some time that you need to move on a find a new love. I'm sure you have thought of what you would like in your next love relationship, but I think its really healthy to know and keep that in mind as you look.
I've found it a let a lady I meet early on know what I'm looking for in a comment that just kind of a for your information this is where I'm at and not with the attitude of if your not this get out of my way, that I have have some really good conversations with a lady even if we know its not going to work out to go on date.
 
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Do you like her because of her age, or despite it? I get the impression that it's the latter, which although obsessions are rarely good, is understandable. Not that one might not lead to the other, of course. For instance, you might feel attracted to her and then see whatever her traits happen to be as more attractive.

I bring this up because I recently met someone who is also 18, and I think what I like about her has more to do with being my type than anything else. It's tempting to overlook her age, but I don't see taking this beyond friendship. Both for her sake and mine. I've also had similar responses to older women who were otherwise my type. It's not that I have a particular thing for older women or younger women, but some of the women I click with just happen to be older or younger.
 
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Et tu,Kingsdotter?


I know the scripture you're referring to but looking at it from your angle it makes me think--"Well,I've already lusted after her,might as well take her". There seems to be a different quality in these types of crushes;like that it's not so much where they are on the beauty-scale but what iconic impact they represent.
 
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"I feel you are enjoying these feelings even though you say you hate them, I suggest you pray about it. "

THIS is good food for thought. It's not wrong to have feelings but thoughts are more under our control. The fact that feelings arise without thoughts(or beyond thoughts) is a reason to ruminate over where they are coming from. Random thoughts,dreams,like crushes can be our inner soul talking.

With this gal she is too young;the ages are not doable. My ex-wife was 12 years younger than me,never was an issue. Previous to her all my relationships were at my age or slightly older than me.

But there might be a point of what joy I can get from this crush. I take an antidepressant that largely kills the sex drive. My T-levels are low and I take a hormonal cream that doesn't help much. I'm older and also feel the effects of that. So I would have to admit that as troublesome as it is I DO enjoy the spark/jolt that it gives me--perhaps that is the very reason for it.
 
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"I feel you are enjoying these feelings even though you say you hate them, I suggest you pray about it. "

I would have to admit that as troublesome as it is I DO enjoy the spark/jolt that it gives me--perhaps that is the very reason for it.

Good of you to admit the trill you get from these feelings. The fact is, the age gap between you two is not doable. Why allow yourself enjoy these feelings when you know you will not marry her? My advice is, try to avoid her as much as you can, avoid looking her way whenever she is around, make a conscious effort to avoid lusting, come on I know you can do it Iambren, this gal is possibly younger than your daughter(I reckon you have one). God bless
 
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If the landscape of your soul is barren and lifeless it's nice to FEEL SOMETHING even if it comes with some pain. I do make attempts to avoid her--I never approach or talk to her,she tarried on the platform after church Sunday and it would have been EASY to go up and converse with her. She's attending my ex'es alma mater where I have attended many class reunions.

My only children are boys 14,16 but I get your point. I don't believe it is lust to be drawn to her,even sexually! Sexual feelings between singles is not sin,but naturally to be expected.

In bouncing this through my mind I've concluded that crushes are a lot like dreams. You don't take them THAT seriously but the neurons of the mind are putting something together to somehow speak to us. This crush feels good,to feel,a message that I need to wake up emotionally. I've gone too long without the physical/emotional enmeshment that a woman brings to me. God may allow powerful sexual dreams to wake the passion in us. Sex is not evil or bad and if left unattended it becomes a benign ugly growth that we drag around,it's righteous use ignored.
 
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How Often Do Men and Women Think about Sex?


This blog entry is by the lead author of this study, Dr. Terri D. Fisher, Professor of Psychology at The Ohio State University at Mansfield.

We collected data from a total of 283 students between the ages of 18 and 25 who kept track of one type of thought (about sex, food, or sleep) for a one week period. They were not allowed to tell anybody what type of thoughts they were recording. We added up the seven daily reports for each person and then divided by seven in order to get the average daily thought frequency. It was immediately apparent that both men and women were quite variable in the frequency with which they engaged in sexual thoughts. The tally counts reported by the men ranged from 1 to 388. The variation for the women was less extreme, but still quite large, ranging from 1 to 140. Because there was so much variation, it makes most sense to talk about the median scores (50th percentile), because medians are less influenced by extreme scores. We found that the median number of daily sexual thoughts for men was 18.6 and for women it was 9.9. In contrast, the average for men was 34.2 and for women it was 18.6. Statistical tests indicated that the number of thoughts about sex was not statistically larger than the number of thoughts about food and sleep. Men had more thoughts about all three of those areas than did women.


Maybe it is just more of a guy thing?
 
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For the past few years I've been obsessed with avoiding sex and interacting with women. I've been married three times, and I know where that stuff leads.

I'm still very heterosexual, and get very lonely, but I'm scared to death to get back into the culture of slamming doors, silent treatments, sex as a weapon, frustration, etc.
 
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Sex is a very good stress reliever for sure! A good massage works amazingly well for sure. Which I think ever couple should have training in as its so beneficial.

No wonder women are so stressed out, they should think about sex more often.
 
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