Sex is popular

[Johnnz]

I have browsed through the threads on a several sections of this forum. the most frequently viewed threads are ones on sexual matters - homosexuality, pornography, naturism, sexal values outside of marriage. These are the most frequently viewed threads by a very large margin.

This suggests:

1 Sex is a major issue for Christians, especially the unmarried

2 There are many sexual issues on which the church is not providing adequate information for young people

3 Many Christians do not feel confident about raising many issues of sexuality with church leaders and parents

4. There is a lot of guilt, (both real and false) around sexual matters, many are confused about what to believe, and many Christians have difficulty in discovering clear biblical principles for many araes of human sexuality.

5 Young people are less willing to conform to old dictums just because someone said so, and are prepared to open up sexual issues that the older leadership and parent generation of Christians have closed down. eg public nudity.

Am I a completely misreading the posts, or do you agree?

John
NZ

 

[Nexus`]

I'd have to agree with ya there.

The Modesty Police (TM) won't stop until we're all wearing chasity belts locked by padlocks.

 

[Lifesaver]

Since we live in times when lust is a most proeminent sin, it is expectable that most threads will revolve around sexual matters, with members trying to change what was always believed regarding them.

And what's more interesting, it seems that a lot of people's MAJOR problem with Christianity has something to do with sexual morality.

 

[The Funk Professor]

Well, we non-Christians don't appreciate Christians telling us what to do with our bodies, especially when it comes to sex.

If some Christians just didn't have to apply their morality to EVERYONE, there wouldn't be this problem. Live and let live.....

 

[Magisterium]

Well, we non-Christians don't appreciate Christians telling us what to do with our bodies, especially when it comes to sex.

If some Christians just didn't have to apply their morality to EVERYONE, there wouldn't be this problem. Live and let live.....

To tell you the truth, it's every Christian's duty to live and proclaim the tenets of their faith. It's odd to me that people who shout in favor of "free speech" become oddly irate when a christian speaks in opposition of what they understand to be sinful behavior. For years, Christians have allowed non-Christians to disparage the faith and it's understandings quite patiently. However, when Christians now speak out and bring some much needed plurality to the discussion of morals, suddenly certain views need to be kept silent.

Speaking out for what is believed is just as much a right of Christians as non-Christians is it not? I can tell you that homosexuality, abortion, euthanasia, and same sex marriage are all intrinsically evil and sinful. Because you do not agree, doesn't diminish my right to proclaim it.

 

[Risen Tree]

Well, we non-Christians don't appreciate Christians telling us what to do with our bodies, especially when it comes to sex.

If some Christians just didn't have to apply their morality to EVERYONE, there wouldn't be this problem. Live and let live.....

It varies from Christian to Christian, honestly. Some believe that there are some clear-cut standards for sexual purity; others believe in these standards but keep them to themselves; and still other Christians believe that just about anything goes as long as it is consensual.

 

[fragmentsofdreams]

To tell you the truth, it's every Christian's duty to live and proclaim the tenets of their faith. It's odd to me that people who shout in favor of "free speech" become oddly irate when a christian speaks in opposition of what they understand to be sinful behavior. For years, Christians have allowed non-Christians to disparage the faith and it's understandings quite patiently. However, when Christians now speak out and bring some much needed plurality to the discussion of morals, suddenly certain views need to be kept silent.

Speaking out for what is believed is just as much a right of Christians as non-Christians is it not? I can tell you that homosexuality, abortion, euthanasia, and same sex marriage are all intrinsically evil and sinful. Because you do not agree, doesn't diminish my right to proclaim it.

Free speech does not mean that people need to like what you have to say or listen to you. Also, there is a BIG difference between speaking out and coercing compliance.

 

[USincognito]

Well, we non-Christians don't appreciate Christians telling us what to do with our bodies, especially when it comes to sex.

If some Christians just didn't have to apply their morality to EVERYONE, there wouldn't be this problem. Live and let live.....

I can't figure out if you're painting with a broad brush or not, but if you are, please stop. There is a wide variety of opinion amongst believers and non-believers on this forum. Don't confuse the Moral Majority with "all Christians."

 

[hugoguttman]

There is one point missing in your list:
Christian people dominated by flesh and not by spirit.
A lot of christian people will agree on having sex before marring. A lot of christian people will agree on divorce. A lot of christian people will agree on abort, a lot of christians will agree on war...that´s the way it is..

 

[Magisterium]

Free speech does not mean that people need to like what you have to say or listen to you. Also, there is a BIG difference between speaking out and coercing compliance.

You are correct. It does not mean that you have to listen or like it. But you must allow me to say it.

As for the difference between speaking out and coercing compliance, you are right again. However, in no way short of hypnotism, can merely speaking be reasonably called coercing compliance.

 

[somasoma77]

Sex is a force of unity and one can feel the oneness with another. This feeling shouldn't be taught as bad or a sin, but as a tool to learn and see that responsibility, decision-making and optimism all flow together in a unity with one universal consciousness, where God is an obvious reality. One benefits tremendously physically, mentally and spiritually, when a deep awareness of unity is established because the habit of being positive is acquired, and God is no longer a closed concept, but an infinite vast always present consciousness. I hope we all learn to see one God beyond the myriad forms so we are not tricked into thinking that there are more than one God. That God condems people for uniting or desiring to unite. My God is better than your god insinuates that there is more than one God. This statement is false and a misuse of belief. Let us all unite in one God.

 

[artybloke]

5 Young people are less willing to conform to old dictums just because someone said so, and are prepared to open up sexual issues that the older leadership and parent generation of Christians have closed down. eg public nudity

Oh, I do hope that's true. If it is, hallelujah! I do hope young people these days don't have the hang-ups that a few years of fundamentalism gave me.

Since we live in times when lust is a most proeminent sin

What, more prominent than corporate greed? More prominent than war-mongering? More prominent than bigotry and self-righteousness?

 

[The Funk Professor]

I can't figure out if you're painting with a broad brush or not, but if you are, please stop. There is a wide variety of opinion amongst believers and non-believers on this forum. Don't confuse the Moral Majority with "all Christians."

Note that I never use the phrase "all Christians" but specifically refer to "some Christians." I know the so-called moral majority isn't actually the majority..

 

[Lifesaver]

What, more prominent than corporate greed? More prominent than war-mongering? More prominent than bigotry and self-righteousness?

Yes, way more!
Even those who don't uphold violence as the solution to everything, as well as those who do, usually commit many lustful sins unashamedly.
Bigots and politically correct ones, both usually have no problem with anything sexual "as long as it is consensual".
From the ones who never seem to get enough and want always more, putting their comfort above God, to the hippies and marxists who despise property and those who have it, in all segments and political positions sexual immorality has become the norm.

Extra-marital sex, contraception, adultery, orgies. Little by little nothing is seen as wrong anymore.

 

[USincognito]

Note that I never use the phrase "all Christians" but specifically refer to "some Christians." I know the so-called moral majority isn't actually the majority..

Cool. That's why I, clumsily, prefaced my comments. I sometimes get concerned by the comments I see from some of my newbie fellow atheist members of the forum.

And welcome aboard the board btw.

 

[crashedman]

Extra-marital sex, contraception, adultery, orgies. Little by little nothing is seen as wrong anymore.

Extra-marital sex is not essentially wrong as long as it is consensual, and protrection is used. Didn't King David and Solomonm have sex with women other than their wives?

As for adultery: I cannot approve of such behaviour. This is doing something without your partner knowing about it, which is definitely wrong and a punishable offence.


Crashedman

 

[w81minit]

Free speech does not mean that people need to like what you have to say or listen to you. Also, there is a BIG difference between speaking out and coercing compliance.

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So there are Christians in your bedroom forcing you to stop your sexual activity?
I think statistics bear out that the Christian in your bedroom is probably participating willingly.

 

[fashionably_lonely]

I think the stigma needs to be removed that thinks that Christians, especially females, don't want, or think about sex. Personally, I'm waiting but after that marriage ceremony, anything goes. I think Christians should learn to embrace their sexuality, not fear it. Not saying go out and fornicate, but definitely be in tune with what you want and be honest about it. I think sex is one of the greatest gifts God gave us on this earth and I plan to have alot of it! You'd be amazed how even that statement is regarded as "pigish" or "worldly" among my Christian friends. Sad, really. What do you think, Adam and Eve had a whole garden to themselves and they were picking flowers all the time? not even.

 

[Ave Maria]

It varies from Christian to Christian, honestly. Some believe that there are some clear-cut standards for sexual purity; others believe in these standards but keep them to themselves; and still other Christians believe that just about anything goes as long as it is consensual.

I think I find myself in the second group, personally.

I belong to another group. I believe that if the Bible clearly makes a stand about something such as when it says homosexuality is a sin, then homosexuality is a sin and should be avoided by Christians. But when the area is not clear cut like pre-marital sex, well, then it's up to me to make the decisions through prayer and Bible study.

 

[green123]

JESUS SMOKES POT!

SEX IS GOD!