Seven Thunders of Revelations

[walt2000]

WELL,ANY BODY HAVE ANY GOOD REASON WHY EVERY THING LINES UP IN THE CHART I GAVE YOU? all scripture is in order, and not me placing them in order ,to make my point.
Find your question vertically, in the Seven Thunders,and then find your answer horizontally .
walt2000It is a gemartria --------------------------------------------------------no.27027 is
0 = a space no. that can be discarded

The two no.are basic to light and creation put the no.s together you get a palindrome-27072
and we have the lowest number evenly divisible by each other.well in gemartria of the old test the number 27 is the number of light.
The Hebrew word for light adds p to 207 and multiplies to 12 since zeros are merely place holders it can be written in gemartria as 27.The same Hebrew word is sometimes translated Sun.The same Hebrew meaning to illuminate ,
now 72 =
New test word for seeds from Greek meaning ,that from life springs ,it bas the no.720 ,The title ,Lord God in Heaven also adds up to 72
he is from that life springs.

So-------------------------------------------------------------christ is the -- 27=light of the world
and.----------------------------------------------------------72=lord god in heaven
light = lord god in heaven prophesy,also= revelations.
Walt2000The making of the chart you may just as well just print them as given.It is a sequential use, of scripture.
As for its use .The vertical lines tell the events ,the horizontal lines explain the event.
If you have a particular question ?Find out where it is vertically on the chart then read the answer horizontally.Thunders 1,2,3,4,5,6,7
There are seven stories told from seven vantage points .it is a seven dimensional look in to the future of one event ,the church on earth.and it's redemption in heaven,The more you look at it the more you will see.Look at it All Then read my posts it explains each of the vertical lines.
then Goggle
walt2000 revelations
That will explain the interior parts of the charts,There is no sense repeating every thing when it is all in front of you.walt2000

 

[walt2000]

Yes I do believe that the Holy Spirit works.


1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


But I do not understand your charts.

1 Corinthians 14:33
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.


Now this is what I can understand very clearly.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=40&version=9&context=chapter



Love in Christ, sarah

But I do not understand your charts.you must be trying to hard It is self explanatory.
Isaiah 40 you understand ?You got it half way ,anyway.keep at it It took me thirty five years so don't expect it over night.

You have one witness ,-----------Jew.
Other witness coming ,-------------Christian.
-------------------------------------------
Don't touch the -------------oil and the wine
Thunder no.three.--(see Chart)-----walt2000

 

[walt2000]

The true interp.of Revelations is out there ,I have opened the little scroll.There is really not much more I can do .The ones that will see it,will ,it will be opened up,the ones that refuse to see it ,it will remain closed.
It is up to the holy spirit to take the next step.walt2000

 

[shuntmama]

The true interp.of Revelations is out there ,I have opened the little scroll.There is really not much more I can do .The ones that will see it,will ,it will be opened up,the ones that refuse to see it ,it will remain closed.
It is up to the holy spirit to take the next step.walt2000

Revelation 6


1And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
5And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
6And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
7And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
8And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
9And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
12And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?






Love in Christ, sarah

 

[walt2000]

Revelation 6


1And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
5And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
6And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
7And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
8And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
9And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
12And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Love in Christ, sarah

That is the first Thunder The Seals.
one letter to EPHESUS .Six Thunders to Go.
and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. Jewish and Cristian promised protection.

The next two Thunders are together .

Thunder no.2 ,The trumpets(SMYRNA) letter no.two, Life ,2= union with Christ
with emphases the
The witness's(3 rd. Thunder).(PERGAMAS) letter no.3, Forgiveness.3 trinity in Christ.
walt2000

 

[walt2000]

Thunder no.4 ,EARTH,THYTIRA promised power.Re.12-15.is shared with ,
Thunder no.5.,SARDIS promised clothed in White,Three angel messengers ,with emphases on THE WORD,Rev.14/6-15/5.Word Of God.
These are the only Thunders that are shared ,showing emphases on two subjects.
THUNDER 2 is shared with 3,
and THUNDER 4 is shared with 5.
walt2000

 

[walt2000]

Thunder no. 6 is MAN,PHILADELPHIA,promised protiction.Re.15/6-16.

Thunder no.7 is LAODICEA ,promised a throne,Mystery Babylon the great harlot.Re.17-20.
walt2000

 

[walt2000]

You know what people are doing,Their turning Revelations in to a big laugh.
Their taking Christs word and making it into a point of ridicule.walt2000

The true interp.of Revelations is out there ,I have opened the little scroll.There is really not much more I can do .The ones that will see it,will ,it will be opened up,the ones that refuse to see it ,it will remain closed.
It is up to the holy spirit to take the next step.walt2000

 

[walt2000]

Germatria
For 44



44 president of the U.S.A in Germatria = 4 + 4 = 8 = Germatria number for a new beginning
4 + 4 = 8 or 4 x 4 = 16
8 + 8 = 16 a new beginning with emphasis
1 + 6 = 7 Christs perfect no.
8 + 8= A New Beginning.with Christ with emphasis



4 = Earth + 4 + Earth = 8 = a new beginning .
Let's watch This Guy
40 = test no.Period, number of Trial. On Earth
4 = on Earth
2 x Earth = 8 = 4 with emphasis
Interesting ?



I think you in the U.S.A.will like the no.7



4 x 4 = 16 = 1 no. of God --- 6 = Man
6 + 1 = 7 no. of Christ perfect no.
1 = God , 2 = union , 4 = earth ,6 = man ,7 = Christ , 8 = a new beginning.
God union Earth man Christ new beginning = 28
28
2 + 8 = 10 = 1 God ,toss the 0
10 = Perfection of divine order.
2 x 8 = 16 = 1 God and x 6 = man
I just can not get a bad number.



Heaven forbid I should be a prophet
(Just kidding)
This has nothing to do, ( At least that I know of ) any latter day predictions.
Just an interesting no.For the U.S.A. Perez.
walt2000​

 

[chosenpath]

Bless your heart Walt2000 you are exuberantly immersed in the word of God. Please Walt2000 be careful. Refer to:

Matthew 24:36
"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.

Matthew 24:44
"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

Romans 13:8-12
Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, ["You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal,"] ["You shall not bear false witness,"] ["You shall not covet,"] and if [there is] any other commandment, are [all] summed up in this saying, namely, ["You shall love your neighbor as yourself."] Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love [is] the fulfillment of the law. And [do] this, knowing the time, that now [it is] high time to awake out of sleep; for now our salvation [is] nearer than when we [first] believed. The night is far spent, the day is at hand. Therefore let us cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armor of light.

I hope and pray we are invitied to the wedding feast. Amen!!!

 

[walt2000]

Germatria
For 44​

44 president of the U.S.A in Germatria = 4 + 4 = 8 = Germatria number for a new beginning
4 + 4 = 8 or 4 x 4 = 16
8 + 8 = 16 a new beginning with emphasis
1 + 6 = 7 Christs perfect no.
8 + 8= A New Beginning.with Christ with emphasis​

4 = Earth + 4 + Earth = 8 = a new beginning .
Let's watch This Guy
40 = test no.Period, number of Trial. On Earth
4 = on Earth
2 x Earth = 8 = 4 with emphasis
Interesting ?​

I think you in the U.S.A.will like the no.7​

4 x 4 = 16 = 1 no. of God --- 6 = Man
6 + 1 = 7 no. of Christ perfect no.
1 = God , 2 = union , 4 = earth ,6 = man ,7 = Christ , 8 = a new beginning.
God union Earth man Christ new beginning = 28
28
2 + 8 = 10 = 1 God ,toss the 0
10 = Perfection of divine order.
2 x 8 = 16 = 1 God and x 6 = man
I just can not get a bad number.​

Heaven forbid I should be a prophet
(Just kidding)
This has nothing to do, ( At least that I know of ) any latter day predictions.
Just an interesting no.For the U.S.A. Perez.
http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/documents/The%20Significance%20of%20Numbers%20in%20Scripture.htm

walt2000​

 

[walt2000]

I broke Revelations Seven Thunders ,now Interpret them.
Seven letter's to the seven church's,individually.walt2000​

 

[light_eclipseca]

Well, it seems to me that if Christ's intention was to seal these things the seven thunders said, he did not want anyone but John to hear them.

Not that he couldn't reveal it to you; but, in stating that you know what the Seven thunders said, you are implicitly adding to the prophecy of Revelation or God is, and either God's wrath will be poured out on you should you not repent of this adding, or God will commend you for speaking forth his word as his prophet.

Here is the dilemma I'm trying to think around:

If this was revealed to you, then it should be on the same level as Scripture, for it is God's word and you would be considered a prophet. If this is the case, then you have not added to the book, thereby bringing any curses on yourself; rather God has added to it, and the canon of Scripture is open.

If this was not revealed to you, then you are a false prophet, and are condemned by the curse of the book, and will be judged with the same judgements as the false gods of the world, including the lake of fire.

I'm not concerned with the truth value of the things you are stating, as I could not know if what you have is prophecy or not. What I am concerned with is whether or not is would be moral to believe you or not.

I will look at the worst case scenarios

However, the consequences are not so horrible if I do not believe you, for the Apostle Peter states in 2 Peter 1:1-4 "Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Savior Jesus Christ: Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, According as his divine power has given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who has called us to glory and virtue: By which are given unto us exceedingly great and precious promises: that by these you might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust."

Therefore, since the God has already given us all things pertaining to life and godliness during the time of Peter the Apostle, I am not endangering my soul by rejecting what you say, as I already have all things pertaining to life and godliness (which is contained in the Word of God).

Therefore, if I reject what you say and you are correct, then I am still safe as I am still considered godly as I have everything which pertains to godliness and life.

If I reject what you say and you are wrong, then I have done well, and am still considered godly.

If I accept what you say and you are correct, then I am not benefiting from it in terms of godliness, as all things pertaining to godliness have already been given. I would still be considered godly.

If I accept what you say and you are not correct, then I have bought into heresy which has added to this prophecy and if I add to it, then God's judgement will be added to me according to the curse of the prophecy.

What should I do?

If I do not believe, then I am godly whether you are right or wrong.

If I believe then I am only godly if you are correct.

Therefore, I should not believe you in order to stay safe and godly, whether or not you speak the truth.

This is not to undermine truth, I'm just stating that if this is revelation, then one should be careful to be safely in the Word of God.

Because you see, if the voice told John to seal the words, then no one would have a record of what the Seven Thunders actually say. They are merely in there to let us know there are things that God will do that are none of our business. If he meant for John to merely encypt what the Seven thunders said in the book, this would be a form of writing what they said down, and this would mean that John disobeyed God.

In fact, if you look in the Bible for the word "thunders" (in the plural), it is not what the Seven Thunders say that is important; rather it is where else they are mentioned that is important. It seems to me that Revelation to the anti-type of the great Exodus of God's people out of Egypt and his pouring out of his wrath upon the gods of Egypt and those who would not allow Israel to leave and worship God who they belonged to. So God sent seven plagues to Egypt. And God poured out Seven plagues upon the Earth for men were rebellious to Him in Revelation.

The thunders are mentioned in the Exodus account and in the Revelation account only, and are not mentioned elsewhere. They are a sign of God's wrath being poured out. Though I believe according to Divine Scripture that God was successful in causing John not to write or encrypt what they said.

Of course, I could just be misunderstanding what you are saying. Maybe you are not claiming to be revealing what the Seven Thunders said? I don't know. I wonder if this is sound reasoning though, if you were stating that?

 

[walt2000]

Well, it seems to me that if Christ's intention was to seal these things the seven thunders said, he did not want anyone but John to hear them.

Not that he couldn't reveal it to you; but, in stating that you know what the Seven thunders said, you are implicitly adding to the prophecy of Revelation or God is, and either God's wrath will be poured out on you should you not repent of this adding, or God will commend you for speaking forth his word as his prophet.

Here is the dilemma I'm trying to think around:

If this was revealed to you, then it should be on the same level as Scripture, for it is God's word and you would be considered a prophet. If this is the case, then you have not added to the book, thereby bringing any curses on yourself; rather God has added to it, and the canon of Scripture is open.

If this was not revealed to you, then you are a false prophet, and are condemned by the curse of the book, and will be judged with the same judgements as the false gods of the world, including the lake of fire.

I'm not concerned with the truth value of the things you are stating, as I could not know if what you have is prophecy or not. What I am concerned with is whether or not is would be moral to believe you or not.

I will look at the worst case scenarios

However, the consequences are not so horrible if I do not believe you, for the Apostle Peter states in 2 Peter 1:1-4 "Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Savior Jesus Christ: Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, According as his divine power has given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who has called us to glory and virtue: By which are given unto us exceedingly great and precious promises: that by these you might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust."

Therefore, since the God has already given us all things pertaining to life and godliness during the time of Peter the Apostle, I am not endangering my soul by rejecting what you say, as I already have all things pertaining to life and godliness (which is contained in the Word of God).

Therefore, if I reject what you say and you are correct, then I am still safe as I am still considered godly as I have everything which pertains to godliness and life.

If I reject what you say and you are wrong, then I have done well, and am still considered godly.

If I accept what you say and you are correct, then I am not benefiting from it in terms of godliness, as all things pertaining to godliness have already been given. I would still be considered godly.

If I accept what you say and you are not correct, then I have bought into heresy which has added to this prophecy and if I add to it, then God's judgement will be added to me according to the curse of the prophecy.

What should I do?

If I do not believe, then I am godly whether you are right or wrong.

If I believe then I am only godly if you are correct.

Therefore, I should not believe you in order to stay safe and godly, whether or not you speak the truth.

This is not to undermine truth, I'm just stating that if this is revelation, then one should be careful to be safely in the Word of God.

Because you see, if the voice told John to seal the words, then no one would have a record of what the Seven Thunders actually say. They are merely in there to let us know there are things that God will do that are none of our business. If he meant for John to merely encypt what the Seven thunders said in the book, this would be a form of writing what they said down, and this would mean that John disobeyed God.

In fact, if you look in the Bible for the word "thunders" (in the plural), it is not what the Seven Thunders say that is important; rather it is where else they are mentioned that is important. It seems to me that Revelation to the anti-type of the great Exodus of God's people out of Egypt and his pouring out of his wrath upon the gods of Egypt and those who would not allow Israel to leave and worship God who they belonged to. So God sent seven plagues to Egypt. And God poured out Seven plagues upon the Earth for men were rebellious to Him in Revelation.

The thunders are mentioned in the Exodus account and in the Revelation account only, and are not mentioned elsewhere. They are a sign of God's wrath being poured out. Though I believe according to Divine Scripture that God was successful in causing John not to write or encrypt what they said.

Of course, I could just be misunderstanding what you are saying. Maybe you are not claiming to be revealing what the Seven Thunders said? I don't know. I wonder if this is sound reasoning though, if you were stating that?

All I can say is what was reveled to me do a Google on my walt2000
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walt2000 the revelations of Christ
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walt2000

Personally I would leave it alone if I were you ,it just caused me thirty five ,more like forty years of being bothered ,and having to be put on sleeping pills .It is not worth it.walt2000

 

[walt2000]

Sorry, this is the revealing. The holy spirit ,Christ ,God and I are opening this up to you ,the little scroll Dan. ,eze.,John ate sweet in the mouth and soured in the stomach .

Of course, I could just be misunderstanding what you are saying. Maybe you are not claiming to be revealing what the Seven Thunders said? I don't know. I wonder if this is sound reasoning though, if you were stating that?

That is what I am saying .The Seven Thunders are reveled.


walt2000

Now we Take each letter individually and interpret them. Seven letters = Seven thunders = Seven candle sticks = Seven church's. walt2000​

 

[walt2000]

Then the blue line the eighth Thunder....White Horse to White Horse .walt2000​

 

[walt2000]

Matthew 24:44
"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect,walt2000

I hope this obsession is not a hint of end-time ,It means a lot of death ,with some joy!!

 

[walt2000]

Bless your heart Walt2000 you are exuberantly immersed in the word of God. Please Walt2000 be careful. Refer to:

Matthew 24:36
"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.

Matthew 24:44
"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

Romans 13:8-12
Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, ["You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal,"] ["You shall not bear false witness,"] ["You shall not covet,"] and if [there is] any other commandment, are [all] summed up in this saying, namely, ["You shall love your neighbor as yourself."] Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love [is] the fulfillment of the law. And [do] this, knowing the time, that now [it is] high time to awake out of sleep; for now our salvation [is] nearer than when we [first] believed. The night is far spent, the day is at hand. Therefore let us cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armor of light.

I hope and pray we are invited to the wedding feast. Amen!!!

1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified by his angel unto his servant John:

1:3 Blessed he that breadth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time at hand.

All are invited few are chosen.walt2000

 

[dendau]

No one knows it's meaning, but perhaps the believers in the great tribulation will get it revealed, we try to count and mount but it will remain sealed up until the great tribulation.

But one little hint I will give you, let Scripture interpret itself.
There is one place in Old Testament that mentions a thunder storm and that is in Psalm 29

Psalm 29 is about a thunder storm that begins in the waters and moves in on the land, the word "voice" is repeated 7 times (7 thunderous voices) (v.3-9).

Perhaps this chapter can get your mind running wild in speculation and suggestions, it's much better using Scripture to interpret Scripture(1.Corinthians 2:13) than trying to use numbers, history and vain imaginations.

 

[walt2000]

(No one knows) it's meaning, but perhaps the believers in the great tribulation will get it revealed, we try to count and mount but it will remain sealed up until the great tribulation.
This is a wrong statement

But one little hint I will give you, let Scripture interpret itself.
There is one place in Old Testament that mentions a thunder storm and that is in Psalm 29
scripture proves the Prophets to be true.

Psalm 29 is about a thunder storm that begins in the waters and moves in on the land, the word "voice" is repeated 7 times (7 thunderous voices) (v.3-9).

Perhaps this chapter can get your mind running wild in speculation and suggestions, it's much better using Scripture to interpret Scripture(1.Corinthians 2:13) than trying to use numbers, history and vain imaginations.

The italics in Revelation are assumptions that mankind put in Revelations to so call clarify the word.And they go against Rev.22/18 and must be discarded

That isn't the way it worked for me .Mind you ,it is conformation ,I was compelled to toss the scripture.(And all the italics.in Revelations).
Old and new Test ,Take every thing as new ,Revelation, 10
and use Rev.22/18 as the law.
Now even you know the TRUE meaning to the scroll .Revelation.
Do You Think That Is Bold ,it is a fact .walt2000​

785Seventh-day Adventist Bible Prophecy fantasy Books​

these people haven't got a clue on the interpretation of Revelation.walt2000​