Seven Thunders of Revelations

[walt2000]

Here is a partical clue for anyone. If it makes no sence to you, then that is what is to be.
Job 9:9
He is the Maker of the Bear and Orion, the Pleiades and the constellations of the south.

Job 38:31
"Can you bind the beautiful Pleiades? Can you loose the cords of Orion?

Amos 5:8
(he who made the Pleiades and Orion, who turns blackness into dawn and darkens day into night, who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out over the face of the land— the LORD is his name-

Revelation 1:16
In his right hand he held seven stars, and out of his mouth came a sharp double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.

Revelation 1:20
The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

Revelation 2:1
[ To the church in Ephesus ] "To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: These are the words of him who holds the seven stars in his right hand and walks among the seven golden lampstands:

Revelation 3:1
[ To the Church in Sardis ] "To the angel of the church in Sardis write:These are the words of him who holds the seven spirits of God and the seven stars. I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead.

Proverbs 9
1 Wisdom has built her house; she has hewn out its seven pillars.

Ecclesiastes 11
1 Cast your bread upon the waters, for after many days you will find it again.
2 Give portions to seven, yes to eight, for you do not know what disaster may come upon the land.

Zechriah 3:8 " 'Listen, O high priest (of Yahshua) Joshua and your associates seated before you, who are men symbolic of things to come: I am going to bring my servant, the Branch. 9 See, the stone I have set in front of Joshua! There are seven eyes on that one stone, and I will engrave an inscription on it,' says the LORD Almighty, 'and I will remove the sin of this land in a single day.

Zechriah 4:10 "Who despises the day of small things? Men will rejoice when they see the plumb line in the hand of Zerubbabel. "(These seven are the eyes of the LORD, which range throughout the earth.)"
11 Then I asked the angel, "What are these two olive trees on the right and the left of the lampstand?"

This is all very well, but it brakes the rule in Rev.22/18
walt2000

 

[shuntmama]

This is all very well, but it brakes the rule in Rev.22/18
walt2000

It breaks your rule Walt. God's rule is that you can not add or take away from any of THE WORD OF GOD.

Revelation 22

18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. 21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.



This book, this book is the WHOLE WORD OF GOD. The Book as a whole. Not just the book of Revelation, but the Whole Bible.From start to finish.



Genesis 1

1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Revelation 22
21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.



You cannot add or take away anything from the Word of God.

Deuteronomy 4

2Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Love in Christ, sarah

 

[shuntmama]

Gen 1:1 ¶ In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Jhn 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jhn 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

Pro 8:22 ¶ The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
Pro 8:24 When [there were] no depths, I was brought forth; when [there were] no fountains abounding with water.
Pro 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
Pro 8:26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
Pro 8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I [was] there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
Pro 8:28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
Pro 8:29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

Pro 8:30 Then I was by him, [as] one brought up [with him]: and I was daily [his] delight, rejoicing always before him;
Pro 8:31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights [were] with the sons of men.
Pro 8:32 ¶ Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed [are they that] keep my ways.
Pro 8:33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
Pro 8:34 Blessed [is] the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
Pro 8:35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
Pro 8:36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.





Love in Christ, sarah

 

[walt2000]

It breaks your rule Walt. God's rule is that you can not add or take away from any of THE WORD OF GOD.

Revelation 22

18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. 21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.



This book, this book is the WHOLE WORD OF GOD. The Book as a whole. Not just the book of Revelation, but the Whole Bible.From start to finish.



Genesis 1

1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Revelation 22
21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.



You cannot add or take away anything from the Word of God.

Deuteronomy 4

2Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Love in Christ, sarah

No I don't agree the rule is in Revelations Rev.22/18 and the books were not put together until just before the printing press .It was meant as a stand alone book. Until it was set together ,even The italics are not supposed to be added.The italics are braking the rule ,the numbering of Scripture ,and the space's between the scripture are against the rule.
Remember that is for Revelations only.The rest of the bible is helpful the way they put it together.Italics,numbers.and spaces.
It is just Revelations ,it is meant as a stand alone book.If the past Prophets were allowed to add ,and put in their own versions ,we would not be able to figure out the Seven Thunders.And then the eight Thunder.
If you look at Revelation, s it is consecutive and in order, not placed here and there ,to make a predetermined story,to make their own conclusion work ,the placement of the wording has to remain the way Christ gave it to john,all the things that line up, with each other ,in my chart ,would not line up ,and the meaning would be lost.see how the thunders repeat them selfs,The Key to understanding Revelations is that rule.Rev.22/18.Sarah you are brakeing that rule
walt2000

 

[shuntmama]

No I don't agree the rule is in Revelations Rev.22/18 and the books were not put together until just before the printing press .It was meant as a stand alone book. Until it was set together ,even The italics are not supposed to be added.The italics are braking the rule ,the numbering of Scripture ,and the space's between the scripture are against the rule.
Remember that is for Revelations only.The rest of the bible is helpful the way they put it together.Italics,numbers.and spaces.
It is just Revelations ,it is meant as a stand alone book.If the past Prophets were allowed to add ,and put in their own versions ,we would not be able to figure out the Seven Thunders.And then the eight Thunder.
If you look at Revelation, s it is consecutive and in order, not placed here and there ,to make a predetermined story,to make their own conclusion work ,the placement of the wording has to remain the way Christ gave it to john,all the things that line up, with each other ,in my chart ,would not line up ,and the meaning would be lost.see how the thunders repeat them selfs,The Key to understanding Revelations is that rule.Rev.22/18.Sarah you are brakeing that rule
walt2000

Walt,


Could you please explain to me just how I am breaking that rule.

I do not understand what you are trying to say.


Love in Christ, sarah

 

[walt2000]

You areGenesis 1

1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Revelation 22
21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.



You cannot add or take away anything from the Word of God.

Deuteronomy 4

2Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Love in Christ, sarah

you are mentioning De.4 ----Ge.1
Any thing that is not in Revelations ,is adding .That is breaking the rule in Rev.22/18, you have to interp. Rev. with the use of Revelations only.no other help will do.Rev. is telling you that to interpt. that book you can only use the book of Rev. to do it.I know, I had a hard time to understand that two.

Get a copy of Revelations and rip it out of the bible,Get a small marker and black out all the words in italics,and any descriptive phrase's.
That is all you have to work with.Then look and compare the Seven Thunder to each other Whe Seven Thunder start with a White horse and end with a White Horse.
look at the way they repeat them self's.
The Seals.
The Trumpets.
The Witnesses.
The Earth.
The Word.
The Man.
The Divine.
That is Your Seven Thunders.Repeating them self's.I did all the work for you ,compair my chart.
Google my name ,walt2000 revelations
walt2000 seven thunders ,You will even get some thing if you just google walt2000

 

[walt2000]

 

[shuntmama]

Walt,


If you don't mind me asking, how did you come to this understanding?


I have never heard Revelation taught this way before,


Thank you,


Love in Christ, sarah

 

[walt2000]

Walt,


If you don't mind me asking, how did you come to this understanding?


I have never heard Revelation taught this way before,





It would be to confusing ,Just take my chart ,If you were closer I could tell you, It is a bit of the hand of God .and lengthy.walt2000

 

[GuardianShua]

This is all very well, but it brakes the rule in Rev.22/18
walt2000

Revelation 22:18. I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

 

[GuardianShua]

Revelation 6
The Seals
1. I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come!" 2. I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

The Three Theories about who the rider is.
#1. Jesus.
#2. Michael.
#3. Man of Sin.

Revelation 19
11. I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.

A white horse symbolizes "victory." Throughout history people who were victorious in battle were afterward paraded on a white horse. Did you notice that the rider in Revelation 6 has only one crown. Could that be a Crown of Life?

 

[walt2000]

The true interp.of Revelations is out there ,I have opened the little scroll.There is really not much more I can do .The ones that will see it,will ,it will be opened up,the ones that refuse to see it ,it will remain closed.
It is up to the holy spirit to take the next step.walt2000

 

[walt2000]

Revelation 6
The Seals
1. I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come!" 2. I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

The Three Theories about who the rider is.
#1. Jesus.
#2. Michael.
#3. Man of Sin.

Revelation 19
11. I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.

A white horse symbolizes "victory." Throughout history people who were victorious in battle were afterward paraded on a white horse. Did you notice that the rider in Revelation 6 has only one crown. Could that be a Crown of Life?

In other words these people that made up these theory's are guessing,and do not know to much on the subject.
A theory is an opinion,every body seems to have an opinion , What I am giving you is hard and proved fact.And with out getting out of Revelations to prove it.Revelations 22/18.
walt2000

 

[walt2000]

Walt,


If you don't mind me asking, how did you come to this understanding?


I have never heard Revelation taught this way before,





It would be to confusing ,Just take my chart ,If you were closer I could tell you, It is a bit of the hand of God .and lengthy.

Do you believe in the working of the holy spirit?35 years of it .walt2000

 

[walt2000]

Things which are ,and things which are hereafter.walt2000

 

[walt2000]

Things Which are hereafter..walt2000

 

[shuntmama]

Do you believe in the working of the holy spirit?35 years of it .walt2000

Yes I do believe that the Holy Spirit works.


1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


But I do not understand your charts.

1 Corinthians 14:33
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.


Now this is what I can understand very clearly.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=40&version=9&context=chapter



Love in Christ, sarah

 

[walt2000]

Yes I do believe that the Holy Spirit works.


1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


But I do not understand your charts.

1 Corinthians 14:33
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.


Now this is what I can understand very clearly.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=40&version=9&context=chapter



Love in Christ, sarah

Not every body has that power ,give it a chance,It may not be for you.Ask and maybe?? It took me around forty years. Leave it alone.
And see if Christ wants to tell you.In fact, if I were you ,I would leave it alone .It was an obsession that I could have done with out.But if you are suppose to know, you will. walt2000

 

[walt2000]

Yes I do believe that the Holy Spirit works.


1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


But I do not understand your charts.

1 Corinthians 14:33
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.


Now this is what I can understand very clearly.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=40&version=9&context=chapter



Love in Christ, sarah

This is why Rev.22/18 is put in.you are working against the rule,
that Christ inserted ,this only mixes the true intent ,and mixes up the way Revelations is layed down, so The Seven Thunders will be hidden for another 2000 years .You have to keep it in Revelations and Revelations only.You are just reading the bible not interpeting Revelations.walt2000

 

[walt2000]

THE SEVEN THUNDERS​

In the SEVEN SEALS,THUNDER
No.1. we start with WHITE HORSE WINNER are Shown where the seals are .The horses are the four spirits that roam the earth.Then a Great Earth Quake (war).Look to
Thunder No.7 same place same war
In the
THE SEVEN TRUMPETS
2 THUNDER, just AFTER the great war ,the witnesses happen , in brackets ,to emphasize that area, of the scenario of events.The last great effort of Gods people (the sealed).​

The WITNESSES THUNDER ,
TRINITY,are the sealed amplified.To show Gods people from the WHITE HORSE ( the First advent )to the(Second advent) SECOND WHITE HORSE​

The EARTH THUNDER are the events that happen on this earth .In relation with the THREE BEASTS THAT ROAM .
1.THE EARTH
.The Beast that we made of the holy spirit
2.THE SEA
.Beast that comes out of the countries.nations,and tongues
3 THE THREE ANGEL MESSENGER.
( The WORD THUNDER) The WORD THUNDER is an amplification of Preaching to the world, and the Babylon that incurious.Then the wine press to separate the true Christians and Jews from the pulp. To get into Heaven​

The MAN THUNDER THUNDER No.6
The seven vials that is poured on mankind ,The blessed, are spared ,and then Heaven The DIVINE THUNDER. The confusion that starts off with,with the harlot ,that makes war on his Church,The separation of His people ,(that wine press that is the same wine press that is in the Word thunder) Then the WHITE HORSE WINNER ,in heaven.​

Then things which John seen in Heaven
walt2000​