Seven Seals -- Not in Chronological Order

Watchman_2 · Mar 5, 2011

The 7 seals are not given in chronolgical order! That's why the term 'seal' is used. There is no particular chronological order in removing seals to a scroll.

The seals, chronologically, are as follow:

Listed ------ In Time
1 -------------- 6
2 -------------- 3
3 -------------- 4
4 -------------- 2
5 -------------- 1
6 -------------- 7
7 -------------- 5

Any eschatology, which is based upon the seals being given in chronological order, is fatally flawed.

1st Seal
The key to understanding lies in the number of the beast [Satan] being 666 in Rev. 13:18, which stands for 6th seal, 6th trumpet, and 6th vial. In reviewing the seals, one sees that Satan [Antichrist], the rider on the white horse in 6:2, is the first one listed; but, it is listed as "one of the seals" -- not the "first one". Hence, there is dispositive proof that the seals are not given in chronological order. The 1st seal is the 6th seal chronologically.

To determine the chronological order of the other 6 seals, one simply needs to correlate them relative to Satan's seal.

6th Seal
This seal is the great day of the Lamb's wrath, which takes place after the seal identifying Satan [1st seal, which is the 6th chronologically]. It is the 7th seal chronologically.

7th Seal
This seal comes at the point of silence in heaven for one-half hour. In reading Rev. 17:12, the 10 kings have power given by Satan for one hour. Hence, the release of these 10 kings [Rev. 13:1] has to take place prior to this seventh seal. The seventh seal is one half hour later.

This 7th Seal marks the unleashing of the trumpets. The first 5 trumpets precede Satan's trumpet. Hence, the 7th seal has to take place prior to the seal identifying Satan's appearance [1st seal, which is the 6th seal chronologically]. The 7th seal is the 5th seal chronolgically.

4th Seal
This seal marks the casting out of heaven of Satan and his fallen angels, of which some will be the 10 kings of Rev. 13:1. It marks the beginning of the hour of silence in heaven. It has to take place prior to the 7th seal [5th chronolgically], as the 7th seal is after about one-half hour of silence in heaven. The 4th seal is the 2nd seal chronologically.

5th Seal
This seal marks the plea of the martyred saints for the endtime to commence. They are told to wait. Those martyred have received their salvation upon death of the flesh. This seal represents the time of teaching -- the church age, including the sealing of the 144,000 in Rev. 7:3-8. The sealing of the 144,000 takes place prior to the casting out of Satan and the fallen angels [2nd seal chronologically]. Hence, the 5th seal is the first seal in time.

3rd Seal
This seal marks the time of the protection of God's elect. Hence, this seal would have to take place after Satan and the fallen angels have been cast out of heaven. It also represents the one-world currency in which no one is allowed to buy or sell without taking the mark of the beast.

It will take sometime after the 10 kings take control of all world gov't before all economic power can be enforced. Hence, this seal comes after the second seal listed. The 3rd seal is the 4th seal chronologically.

2nd Seal
This seal marks the beginning of world peace, which only takes place when Satan's 10 kings take power over all world gov't. Hence, this seal has to take place after Satan and his angels are cast out of heaven. The first order of business, by edict, from these 10 kings will be world peace. World peace logically precedes the introduction of world currency and, hence, precedes the 3rd seal [4th chronologically]. The 2nd seal is the 3rd chronologically.

LovedofHim · Mar 5, 2011

LOL! "Satan's seal"??? Now you're just making stuff up.

The seals were numbered by God and are sent out in the order He numbered them.

For example, the first four seals are described as horsemen/riders. In scripture, they are always sent out together consecutively. After war comes famine. After famine comes pestilence and death by wild beasts ('cause they are hungry).

There is a way to tell, besides their numbers that God assigned to each one, that they are in chronological order.

For example, the white robes are given in the 5th seal. Wrath begins in the 6th seal. The church is standing in heaven wearing white robes prior to wrath because we are not appointed to suffer wrath.
The 6th seal says that's when the Day of wrath begins and then the 7th seal shows the wrath of God being poured out in the form of a cast-down devil forcing people to choose where they will spend eternity, trumpets and bowls.

The seals on the scroll are definitely in the order that God numbered them for the reasons I've given and much more.

ivebeenshown · Mar 5, 2011

LovedofHim said:
The seals were numbered by God and are sent out in the order He numbered them.

Indeed.

Watchman_2 · Mar 6, 2011

LovedofHim said:
LOL! "Satan's seal"??? Now you're just making stuff up.

It refers to the seal in which Satan, the Antichrist, is reavealed. That would be the rider on the white horse -- Rev. 6:2.

The seals were numbered by God and are sent out in the order He numbered them.

No they are not! See OP.

For example, the first four seals are described as horsemen/riders. In scripture, they are always sent out together consecutively. After war comes famine. After famine comes pestilence and death by wild beasts ('cause they are hungry).

Nope. See OP.

There is a way to tell, besides their numbers that God assigned to each one, that they are in chronological order.

For example, the white robes are given in the 5th seal. Wrath begins in the 6th seal. The church is standing in heaven wearing white robes prior to wrath because we are not appointed to suffer wrath.

Nope. The church never makes the first resurrection. Only individuals make it. See Rev. 20:4. The 6th seal is the last one in time -- those hiding are Rapturists, who worshipped Satan and then find out, upon Christ's return, what they did. They are hiding in shame!

When do those that have been martyred for the Lord's name receive their white robes?? Why are they asked to wait for the Lord to avenge them?? Therein lies your fatal flaw.

See Luke 16. People are judged at death [Heb. 9:27] and placed on one side of the gulf or the other. Those on the Abrahamic side of the gulf have made the first resurrection. Those on the hell side have souls that remain mortal. Those that pass the test in their flesh existence have their white robes already.

If no one received their white robes [saved at first resurrection] until the Lord returns, there would be no saints for Christ to bring with him [1 Thes. 4:13-17]. Since Christ does bring the saints with Him, then they already received their salvation [first resurrection] and white robes.

The 5th seal commenced upon Christ's crucifixion. It represents the church age.

The 6th seal says that's when the Day of wrath begins and then the 7th seal shows the wrath of God being poured out in the form of a cast-down devil forcing people to choose where they will spend eternity, trumpets and bowls.

Wrong! The devil is cast out ahead of the Lord's tribulation. See Rev. 12, 2 Thes. 2, Mat. 24, etc.

The seals on the scroll are definitely in the order that God numbered them for the reasons I've given and much more.

See OP. The seals are not in chronological order.

Watchman_2 · Mar 6, 2011

ivebeenshown said:
Indeed.

There is nothing in the Bible manuscipts that locks one into the meaning that the numbering, after the first one opened, are in chronological order. The numbering for the seals only means they are in the order in which the Lamb opened them.

There is no particular chronological order in which a scroll has to be unsealed.

1whirlwind · Mar 6, 2011

Watchman_2 said:
The 7 seals are not given in chronolgical order! That's why the term 'seal' is used. There is no particular chronological order in removing seals to a scroll.

1st Seal
The key to understanding lies in the number of the beast [Satan] being 666 in Rev. 13:18, which stands for 6th seal, 6th trumpet, and 6th vial. In reviewing the seals, one sees that Satan [Antichrist], the rider on the white horse in 6:2, is the first one listed; but, it is listed as "one of the seals" -- not the "first one". Hence, there is dispositive proof that the seals are not given in chronological order. The 1st seal is the 6th seal chronologically.

To determine the chronological order of the other 6 seals, one simply needs to correlate them relative to Satan's seal.

6th Seal
This seal is the great day of the Lamb's wrath, which takes place after the seal identifying Satan [1st seal, which is the 6th chronologically]. It is the 7th seal chronologically.

I agree that the seals are not given in order. I agree that the rider on the first horse is Satan. I agree that the "one of the seals" is the sixth seal.

I disagree with the rest! How can you write that the 6th seal is "the great day of the Lamb's wrath" when you just wrote the 6th seal is the time of Satan? Satan comes to deceive (which is why he is disguised as the rider on the white horse) and as shown....he arrives before the true Savior.

Not long ago I wrote the following OP on the topic of the seals, I'm sorry about it's length but it explains what I believe the seals represent.....

The Seals of Revelation

A Seal is a secret, a stamp for preservation. The Seals are given to prepare our minds for what will happen. To some it will remain a secret but to others...He opens the knowledge, tells the secret. It is sealed in our minds. The seals given below are not telling us the event is happening but is telling us what will happen once the trumpets sound and none of the trumpets have sounded at any time during the telling of the seals.

The Trumpets are sounded to execute an order to action....to charge.

The Vials are shallow cups and when it is time they are dumped out, poured out, not slowly but all at once.

THE SEALS

Revelation 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of Him That sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.

What book is sealed?

Revelation 6:1-2 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, "come and see." And I saw, and behold, a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

It is the Lamb that opens the seals for He is the only One worthy to do so [Rev.5:5]. I want to point out that this IS NOT THE FIRST SEAL. The seals are numbered, second, third, etc. This is not listed as the first seal but is...."one of the seals." One of the seven...but not the first. Instead of the first seal the one the Lamb is opening is the sixth seal.

Both [6:1-2 and 6:12-14] are the same event......And I beheld when He had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the (full) moon became as blood; and the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

It is about Satan's time, his great tribulation. It is described first and it is the most important for us to know.

The order for this to happen will be executed when the "noise of thunder," or...the sixth trumpet sounds. The secret being told us, the seal being preserved in our minds, is that Satan will arrive at the sixth trump and he will come pretending to be Christ. Christ arrives at the seventh...we are to wait for Him.

6:3-4 And when He had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, "Come and see." And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

The great sword is God's Word. Satan speaks His Word but, as he did in the garden, twists the meaning. He takes "peace from the earth" by pretending to be Christ for Christ is our Peace. He will stand there pretending to be our Peace. That deception is what causes the killing, for it is spiritual killing. Those that are deceived will spiritually die for they will have taken the mark of the beast.

6:5-6 And when He had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, "Come and see." And I beheld, and lo, a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, "A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine."

This is in reference to buying and selling during his great tribulation. Buying and selling souls...wheat and barley! [Revelation 13:17] The oil and wine (symbolic of Christ and His elect) aren't harmed as they, the elect, know the truth and will not be deceived.

6:7-8 And when He had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, "Come and see." And I looked, and behold, a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

The "pale horse" is a "greenish horse." You will see the color green associated with Islam. Their leader is...death and hell - Satan. They kill with the sword (with the word...the false word of the Koran), with hunger (hunger for the true Word of God) and with death...spiritual death as they don't have Christ, and with the beasts of the earth....Those are not "lions and tigers and bears, Oh My," but are beastly humans...Satan's entourage.

6:9-11 And when He had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost Thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?" And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

They are those that through the ages have been "slain" for the testimony of Christ as will be the witnesses at the end of days. The witnesses are those being referred to as "fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed." However, one must determine if the killing is literally being slain or...is more being said?

6:12-14 And I beheld when He had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the (full) moon became as blood; and the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

This is the seal described above, the same as [6:1-2]. Satan's great tribulation.

7:1-3 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having, the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Saying, "Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads."

The "seal of the living God" is the seventh seal. The sealing of His servants speaks of....

Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

The tribes are His servants....

Isaiah 45:4 For Jacob My servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known Me.

8:1-2 And when He had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.

The half an hour is part of Satan's "hour of temptation." Only now are the trumpets given to the angels. The events haven't yet happened. We are just being informed on what will happen when the trumpet sounds. But, where is the first seal, the first secret?

Isaiah 8:15-16,18 And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken. Bind up the testimony, seal the law among My disciples." (18) Behold, I and the children whom the Lord hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the Lord of hosts, Which dwelleth in mount Zion.

John 3:33 He that hath received His testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are His. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

The first seal, the first secret is....His very elect. Those the "Lord knoweth." His disciples are His secret from the world and they will be used as signs and wonders. Perhaps it wasn't written of as "the first seal" because unlike the other six seals that don't happen until the trumpets sound....the very elect are sealed before that time. They aren't a future event.

Back to the beginning....what is the book that is sealed?

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ivebeenshown · Mar 6, 2011

Watchman_2 said:
There is nothing in the Bible manuscipts that locks one into the meaning that the numbering, after the first one opened, are in chronological order.

Well, my common sense and what I learned in elementary school sure fooled me. Now that I think of it, why should I ever interpret a passage that uses the terms 'first, second, third, fourth...' in that exact order as depicting a chronological sequence?

granpa · Mar 6, 2011

AFAIK, the seals are in chronological order.
the order in which they are given is important to understanding them.

1st rider given crown
Smyrna:I will give to thee the crown of the life.

2nd rider with great sword
Pergamos: These things saith he who is having the sharp two-edged sword:

3rd
Thyatira

4th rider named death and hades
Sardis:I have known thy works, and that thou hast the name that thou dost live, and thou art dead;

Manasseh_ · Mar 6, 2011

Watchman_2 said:
There is nothing in the Bible manuscipts that locks one into the meaning that the numbering, after the first one opened, are in chronological order. The numbering for the seals only means they are in the order in which the Lamb opened them.

There is no particular chronological order in which a scroll has to be unsealed.

Your scripture says otherwise.

If you're are proposing there is no order then you are also proposing at the same time that the seals are randomly placed. God does not randomly give major points of prophecy in his written word, God is not the author of confusion.

To understand Revelation 6 it's vital that we read Christ's Olivet prophecy first, Matt 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21. You can place 2 computer bibles side by side , I used Matt 24 to compare with Rev 6

A few quick points first...................
In reading the Olivet Prophecy we first find that the apostles came to Christ PRIVATELY, Mark shows that it wasn't all the apostles but only four that came to him privately asking about the end times........Peter , Andrew, James and John.

Christ did give the Olivet prophecy in order of how events would unfold, one event following another event..........what's important about this is the fact that JOHN was one of those that came to him privately..........to imply there is no order to the seals being opened would also imply that John was first given the events in order then years later given a random order of the same events.

Comparing the 2 accounts shows that the seals are in order of events that lead up to Christ's second coming.........just a few here as an example.

First thing Christ says in Olivet discourse
Take heed that no man deceive you, false Christs, false prophets

First seal , white horse rider, false christianity, a counterfeit rider to the white horse rider of Rev 19 (Christ)

Next Christ tells his apostles.........Wars and Rumors of Wars among nations

Second seal , red horse rider War

Anyone can read further and find the 2 are synonymous with each other, each seal matches each event of Christ's prophecy....the Olivet Discourse is an overview of Rev 6

One more thing to notice , it's Christ who does the revealing in both instances, first in his earthly ministry then as the only one worthy to open the seals in light of this fact it would give rise to the question , why would Christ first give the events in order then randomly give the same events to John in Rev 6, what would be the motive in that ?

The seals are in chronological order of how and when the final end time events would unfold, they are in order and there is a reason that they were given in the order that they were given.

1whirlwind · Mar 6, 2011

ivebeenshown said:
Well, my common sense and what I learned in elementary school sure fooled me. Now that I think of it, why should I ever interpret a passage that uses the terms 'first, second, third, fourth...' in that exact order as depicting a chronological sequence?

That is the point...you won't find "first seal" written:

Revelation 6:1-2 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, "come and see." And I saw, and behold, a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

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granpa · Mar 6, 2011

he said 'false apostles' not 'false Christs'.

ivebeenshown · Mar 6, 2011

1whirlwind said:
That is the point...you won't find "first seal" written:

Revelation 6:1-2 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, "come and see." And I saw, and behold, a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Revelation 6
1 I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come!” 2 I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

New International Version (©1984)
When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Come!"
New Living Translation (©2007)
When the Lamb broke the second seal, I heard the second living being say, "Come!"
English Standard Version (©2001)
When he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!”
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
When He broke the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come."
International Standard Version (©2008)
When the lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Go!"
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
When the lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Go!"
King James Bible
And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
American King James Version
And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
American Standard Version
And when he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, Come.
Bible in Basic English
And when the second stamp was undone, the voice of the second beast came to my ears, saying, Come and see.
Douay-Rheims Bible
And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature, saying: Come, and see.
Darby Bible Translation
And when it opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, Come and see.
English Revised Version
And when he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, Come.
Webster's Bible Translation
And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second living being say, Come and see.
Weymouth New Testament
And when the Lamb broke the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Come."
World English Bible
When he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come!"
Young's Literal Translation
And when he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, 'Come and behold!'

Translation arguments aside, a scroll is something which was rolled up and sealed with a spot of wax at certain intervals. You can't unroll and break the seventh seal without having unrolled and broken seals 1-6.

granpa · Mar 6, 2011

I dont think it was an actual scroll.
It was a device with buttons and displays on its surface

Choose Wisely · Mar 6, 2011

1whirlwind said:
That is the point...you won't find "first seal" written:

Revelation 6:1-2 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, "come and see." And I saw, and behold, a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

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I woke up hungry. I grabbed one of the boxes of cereal and ate. It was Cheerios.

I grabbed the second box and opened it. It was Capt Crunch.

I grabbed the third box and opened it. It was Frosted Flakes.

Now put the boxes in order of how they were opened. Remember, the first box was described as "one of the boxes"

This is too complex. Since the first box is described as one of the boxes I think it was opened second or third. I'm not sure though. Any ideas?

ivebeenshown · Mar 6, 2011

granpa said:
I dont think it was an actual scroll.
It was a device with buttons and displays on its surface

"And the Lord Jesus, frustrated with his iPad, threatened to sue Apple before pulling out his smartphone and accessing the seven scroll files on his mobile fileshare."

1whirlwind · Mar 6, 2011

ivebeenshown said:
Revelation 6
1 I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, Come! 2 I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

New International Version (©1984)
When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Come!"
New Living Translation (©2007)
When the Lamb broke the second seal, I heard the second living being say, "Come!"
English Standard Version (©2001)
When he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, Come!
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
When He broke the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come."
International Standard Version (©2008)
When the lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Go!"
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
When the lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Go!"
King James Bible
And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
American King James Version
And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
American Standard Version
And when he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, Come.
Bible in Basic English
And when the second stamp was undone, the voice of the second beast came to my ears, saying, Come and see.
Douay-Rheims Bible
And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature, saying: Come, and see.
Darby Bible Translation
And when it opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, Come and see.
English Revised Version
And when he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, Come.
Webster's Bible Translation
And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second living being say, Come and see.
Weymouth New Testament
And when the Lamb broke the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Come."
World English Bible
When he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come!"
Young's Literal Translation
And when he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, 'Come and behold!'

Translation arguments aside, a scroll is something which was rolled up and sealed with a spot of wax at certain intervals. You can't unroll and break the seventh seal without having unrolled and broken seals 1-6.

I'm not sure why you found it necessary to quote all the above verses about the second seal when we are discussing the first one written. I have no problem with them. I do have a problem with your translation of "Revelation 6 1 I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals "

It isn't the "first of the seven," but is..."one of the seals," and that is an important distinction.

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granpa · Mar 6, 2011

ivebeenshown said:
"And the Lord Jesus, frustrated with his iPad, threatened to sue Apple before pulling out his smartphone and accessing the seven scroll files on his mobile fileshare."

LOL
you think God doesnt have technology?

He created us didnt he.
I'd say thats pretty high tech.

(I guess you believe the angels just lie around on clouds all day playing harps)

1whirlwind · Mar 6, 2011

Choose Wisely said:
I woke up hungry. I grabbed one of the boxes of cereal and ate. It was Cheerios.

I grabbed the second box and opened it. It was Capt Crunch.

I grabbed the third box and opened it. It was Frosted Flakes.

Now put the boxes in order of how they were opened. Remember, the first box was described as "one of the boxes"

This is too complex. Since the first box is described as one of the boxes I think it was opened second or third. I'm not sure though. Any ideas?

Do you not question why it wasn't listed as "the first seal" when all the others were given as "second, third, fourth?" Instead it is "one of." Why?

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Choose Wisely · Mar 6, 2011

Choose Wisely said:
I woke up hungry. I grabbed one of the boxes of cereal and ate. It was Cheerios.

I grabbed the second box and opened it. It was Capt Crunch.

I grabbed the third box and opened it. It was Frosted Flakes.

Now put the boxes in order of how they were opened. Remember, the first box was described as "one of the boxes"

This is too complex. Since the first box is described as one of the boxes I think it was opened second or third. I'm not sure though. Any ideas?

OK, I'm making progress on this. I think the 1st box was opened last. Notice that it says the box was eaten from. There would be no reason to open the other boxes if he had already eaten. Box 2 and 3 were clearly opened before box 1.

So we know that the 1st box was opened 3rd. I'm still confused about the order of the 2nd and 3rd boxes. Can anyone go to the Greek for clarification?

1whirlwind · Mar 6, 2011

Choose Wisely said:
OK, I'm making progress on this. I think the 1st box was opened last. Notice that it says the box was eaten from. There would be no reason to open the other boxes if he had already eaten. Box 2 and 3 were clearly opened before box 1.

So we know that the 1st box was opened 3rd. I'm still confused about the order of the 2nd and 3rd boxes. Can anyone go to the Greek for clarification?

Some of us choose to learn when presented with something they had not previously noticed. Others don't.

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