Serious question as it relates to religion

[Harry3142]

ok, now I feel good about these answers. I appreciate it very much.

Also, everything has been resolved to my satisfaction at work. I was informed that I would not be fired for doing the right thing. He said it would be ridiculous to do that. As added protection, I plan on removing my uniform prior to leaving property if the even should ever arise, simply to protect my employer. I may get written up, but I won't get fired.

Are you trained in anything beyond basic first aid and CPR? When I took a course in basic first aid the instructor warned us that it would only help with relatively minor injuries. If the injuries you attempt to alleviate are considered major, as is the case in many car accidents, then you should have the advanced first aid certificate at the very least in order not to inadvertently do more harm than good.

Back in 1998 I was 'T-boned' by a driver who ran the red light. To have looked at me after the accident you would have thought that my injuries were relatively minor. But all the ribs on my right side were broken, both bones in my left leg above the ankle were broken, my right lung was useless, my sternum was fractured, and every internal organ in my body had been damaged. If anyone who was not specifically trained in how to both recognize and deal with people in my situation had gotten hold of me, even if they had been well-meaning, the endresult of their efforts could have very well been my injuries being aggravated.

Fortunately, a deputy sheriff arrived almost immediately and called for the paramedics. In the mean time, he allowed no one to even touch me. When the paramedics got there they removed me from the car by using very specific maneuvers in order not to injure me further. I was then transported to the hospital, where I was in surgical ICU for the first 24 hours. But had I been 'rescued' by those who were not qualified to deal with a situation such as mine the chances are good that my injuries would have been compounded through their ignorance of proper procedure.

 

[ebia]

Are you trained in anything beyond basic first aid and CPR? When I took a course in basic first aid the instructor warned us that it would only help with relatively minor injuries. If the injuries you attempt to alleviate are considered major, as is the case in many car accidents, then you should have the advanced first aid certificate at the very least in order not to inadvertently do more harm than good.

Back in 1998 I was 'T-boned' by a driver who ran the red light. To have looked at me after the accident you would have thought that my injuries were relatively minor. But all the ribs on my right side were broken, both bones in my left leg above the ankle were broken, my right lung was useless, my sternum was fractured, and every internal organ in my body had been damaged. If anyone who was not specifically trained in how to both recognize and deal with people in my situation had gotten hold of me, even if they had been well-meaning, the endresult of their efforts could have very well been my injuries being aggravated.

Fortunately, a deputy sheriff arrived almost immediately and called for the paramedics. In the mean time, he allowed no one to even touch me. When the paramedics got there they removed me from the car by using very specific maneuvers in order not to injure me further. I was then transported to the hospital, where I was in surgical ICU for the first 24 hours. But had I been 'rescued' by those who were not qualified to deal with a situation such as mine the chances are good that my injuries would have been compounded through their ignorance of proper procedure.

It depends. If the person is not breathing then doing nothing means certain death. Part of the point of a good 1st aid course is when to act and when to just monitor.

 

[hwyangel]

I believe it depends on WWJD.

 

[jathtech]

I've got an extensive back ground in emergency aid training. I've been trained in the military for combat lifesaving multiple times and levels, boy scouts for all of the above, and even my current job has gotten me trained and certified for CPR and first aid.

As for not moving people in certain situations, that's pretty much the first thing you learn. Pretty much the only thing you're supposed to do it stop the bleeding if you can. If they are unconscious, keep their airway cleared. If the aren't breathing, try to give them rescue breaths from their current position if you can. If the have no pulse, move them carefully, but quickly, to a position where you can preform CPR. Have people with other relatively minor in comparison, injuries sit in a safe place and have someone monitor them. Don't give them water.

There are dozens of other things to know, but really, I'm not training to do open heart surgery, only get them from the accident to the emergency responders.

Back in October, I responded to a pedestrian accident on my way home. The person who was hit by the car was face down in the street. I felt for a pulse and for breathing, but could not find any. I decided to move him cause he was dead if I didn't anyway. Flipped him over to give him CPR.

Unfortunately, I arrived on the scene after he'd been down for about 4 minutes, and he both bled out, and suffocated.

I was told by everyone I had talked to that I did the right thing by flipping him over even though every bone in his body was broken.

That was a sad day.

 

[jathtech]

I believe it depends on WWJD.

That isn't quite a good answer for that situation, because Jesus would simply lay his hand on the dudes forehead and he'd stand up healed... Or he'd wash him in a pond and he'd be fine. Or he'd pick up the severed arm and stick it back on... We can't exactly do that can we?

 

[Yarddog]

As a truck driver Im required to maintain my speed and my lane, no exceptions, federal law. Last year I was driving down a two lane road and a little girl came hopping into the road from behind a car where her parents were changing a flat tire. I removed the plane mirror from an oncoming truck, and part of the fender. I was fired but the girl is alive.

Not to derail this thread but what federal law requires a truck driver to maintain speed and lane, with no exceptions? I used to have my CDLs and hadn't heard of that and my Brother-in-law is a owner operator and he doesn't know the "no exception" law.

I can't find any law stating that at the US DOT site.

 

[hwyangel]

That isn't quite a good answer for that situation, because Jesus would simply lay his hand on the dudes forehead and he'd stand up healed... Or he'd wash him in a pond and he'd be fine. Or he'd pick up the severed arm and stick it back on... We can't exactly do that can we?

The parable of the Good Samaritan is a parable told by Jesus.
The parable's meaning exemplifyings the ethics of Jesus, which have won nearly universal praise, even from those outside the Church.

 

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[hwyangel]

"Move into your intended path or direction only after you are assured you will not conflict with other traffic:"

References: FMCSR Part 383.110; 383.111; 383.113. D1.

If a pedestrian illegaly, unexpectedly, and dangerously enters the flow of traffic they are legally considered to be at fault. If I swerve to avoid them and cause damage or injury to others then I am at fault. Section 28-791. (State laws) Pedestrians subject to traffic rules ...

http://www.pagnet.org/programs/tran...ns/statepedestrianlaws/tabid/489/default.aspx

I may have over simplified my comment. I post on my cell phone and between loads.

 

[jpcedotal]

I would always help. If it was a set-up or if it cost me my job, so be it.

 

[seeingeyes]

ok, so here's the deal, I don't care what anyone else has to say about this subject unless they are a practicing pastor, bishop, or some other form of church leader who has done many years of spiritual teaching.

Ok, I am none of those. I am just a chick that God hit upside the head with His Spirit.

So I'll just post what seems to be a relevant passage:

"At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”
He answered, “Haven’t you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests. Or haven’t you read in the Law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple desecrate the day and yet are innocent? I tell you that one greater than the temple is here. If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the innocent. For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”
Going on from that place, he went into their synagogue, and a man with a shriveled hand was there. Looking for a reason to accuse Jesus, they asked him, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”
He said to them, “If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.” Then he said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” So he stretched it out and it was completely restored, just as sound as the other."


And of course the last sentence in that passage is: "But the Pharisees went out and plotted how they might kill Jesus."(Matt 10)


So to do good is good, and also, no good deed goes unpunished.


Peace

 

[seeingeyes]

Oops, I didn't read all the way through...

Glad it worked out for ya.

 

[Blessedj01]

Still, pretty good answer for a chick who got hit upside the head.

 

[seeingeyes]

Still, pretty good answer for a chick who got hit upside the head.

Why thank you.