Self Harm

[forSaviour]

Book of Matthew 26:51 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear. 26:52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

 

[forSaviour]

Book of Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. .

 

[Argent]

You obvisously have not dealt with anyone who has a mental disorder, which cutting is.

Also, how horrible of you to condemn these kids who are trying to reach out.

It can be construed as a selfish act only because it is for their benefit and their's alone. HOWEVER, there is a very real and important issue that is the base for the behavior. It is vital to discover this and fix that problem.

I couldn't agree with you more.

 

[TwinCrier]

It seems that many are overlooking the obvious cause: demons. While I agree insanity may well be the cause, it is Satan's ideal to have people destroyed. In the bible demon possessed people always inflicted self harm. Demons haven't gone on vacation for the 21st century.

Matthew 17:14-21 And when they were come to the multitude, there came to him a certain man, kneeling down to him, and saying, Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water. And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him. Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me. And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour. Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

 

[forSaviour]

Book of Ephesians 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

 

[KarrieTex]

It seems that many are overlooking the obvious cause: demons. While I agree insanity may well be the cause, it is Satan's ideal to have people destroyed. In the bible demon possessed people always inflicted self harm. Demons haven't gone on vacation for the 21st century.

Matthew 17:14-21 And when they were come to the multitude, there came to him a certain man, kneeling down to him, and saying, Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water. And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him. Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me. And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour. Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

I don't agree with you at all.

Not only is it very possible that it is not demons, it is not INSANITY.

The attitude that you carry is backwards and is highly dangerous for those who are depressed on that level. Cutting is due to deep depression among other things.

I am highly sickened this is coming from a person out of the Christian community.

 

[forSaviour]

Book of Genesis 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

 

[forSaviour]

Book of Genesis 29:14 And Laban said to him, Surely thou art my bone and my flesh. And he abode with him the space of a month. .

 

[spiersdodgerblue]

I don't agree with you at all.

Not only is it very possible that it is not demons, it is not INSANITY.

The attitude that you carry is backwards and is highly dangerous for those who are depressed on that level. Cutting is due to deep depression among other things.

I am highly sickened this is coming from a person out of the Christian community.

I could not agree with you more!

People need to educate themselves with a loving open heart or not speak on the subject...it's cruel and I hope no-one is reading this who is suffering now with this!

 

[Argent]

It seems that many are overlooking the obvious cause: demons. While I agree insanity may well be the cause, it is Satan's ideal to have people destroyed. In the bible demon possessed people always inflicted self harm. Demons haven't gone on vacation for the 21st century.

Matthew 17:14-21 And when they were come to the multitude, there came to him a certain man, kneeling down to him, and saying, Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water. And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him. Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me. And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour. Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

I very, very rarely disagree with you. The issue of Self-Injury (SI), Self-Harm (SH) and Suicide are all different, and in as much as I agree that demons have not gone vacation in the 21st century, the above behaviors have been very successfully treated with Psychiatric therapy and especially Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT) with SI.

I'm not saying there isn't demonic influence in the behavior of many people, even Christians, but not all self-destructive behavior is the result of demons.

 

[mikeworld]

People r in a a destruction path unless they r touched by the lord. i believe.

 

[Taylor43]

I very, very rarely disagree with you. The issue of Self-Injury (SI), Self-Harm (SH) and Suicide are all different, and in as much as I agree that demons have not gone vacation in the 21st century, the above behaviors have been very successfully treated with Psychiatric therapy and especially Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT) with SI.

I'm not saying there isn't demonic influence in the behavior of many people, even Christians, but not all self-destructive behavior is the result of demons.

I agree people need help and are hurting themselve they need to be reached out and not be judged.

 

[JuneMcCormick]

People r in a a destruction path unless they r touched by the lord. i believe.

But what about those who claim to be in touch with the Lord and still cut?

 

[KarrieTex]

But what about those who claim to be in touch with the Lord and still cut?

And? You don't seem to understand that this is something that is deep emotional and mental disorders. God can be in their lives and they still fight this disease/disorder.

He also uses doctors et al as a tool for His healing.

I am still amazed at this heartless attitude and plain ignorance you have about mental disorders.

 

[Argent]

People r in a a destruction path unless they r touched by the lord. i believe.

For Bible believing Christians, this goes without saying.

 

[Argent]

And? You don't seem to understand that this is something that is deep emotional and mental disorders. God can be in their lives and they still fight this disease/disorder.

He also uses doctors et al as a tool for His healing.

I am still amazed at this heartless attitude and plain ignorance you have about mental disorders.

Again, I couldn't agree with you more!

June McCormick, there is plenty of info on the internet regarding SI, SH and Suicide. Why not spend some time education yourself on such behaviors, pray for the sufferers and the people who care about them, and then spend some time in self-reflection. I think you might see some judgementalism in the outcome.

 

[fuzzymel]

self harm is a horrible thing to go through especially as a Christian. People call you selfish and no one actually wants to help.

So many people seem to think that because you are a Christian you cannot suffer from depression.

People who called me selfish just made me feel worse and made me harm myself even more. I felt terrible because 'Christians dont get depressed' so why was I depressed. Thankfully not all Christians have that view and those that know the truth helped me through it.

 

[MyFaithIsInHIM]

I was just cruising around the Baptist forum here for reasons other than this thread...but it caught my attention. Why? Because I use to self harm. Trust me, I have the scars I have to look at daily to remind me. I am a Christian. I self harmed when I was a Christian. Was I trying to kill myself...no...I had pain that I didn't know how to deal with, I had issues from my life that were so twisted up inside that I felt totally out of control. Self harm for the most part is not someone trying to get attention, in fact most people who do self harm go to great lengths to hide the fact that they do it. As Christians shouldn't we be reaching out, showing love, showing God's love, showing support? I am blessed in the fact that I have not self harmed in about two years. Praise the Lord!!!! Not everyone is so blessed. I had mixed emotions when reading this thread...for the ones who think someone is selfish, please don't...there is nothing worse then living in the cycle of self harm. For those who see it as a cry for help, maybe a cry that someone can not verbally express, I say the world is blessed to have you think that way. I wish the Christians around me at the time would have been supportive and not judgmental. But we can not change the past, we can only learn from it and see how to shape our future. Ok, back to browsing the forum looking for what the answer I came looking for lol

 

[Anichai]

Yeh well. See. I would be dead if I was not Christian. I was an atheist. I never really afflicted harm upon my body but my mind and soul were shattered. The thoughts that went through my head were scary and I sort of went from a suicidal atheist to a curious theist. I wanted to find God. So I looked. Searched. And sort of went in a 360 degree circle. I had left (my catholicised) Jesus behind. The catholic church makes it sooo boring. Leaves you so unhappy and the best answer I ever got was "Don't ask questions!" I went from that to a stressed atheistic adolescent feeding my flesh and neglecting the crumbling spirit. I was an atheist, not because it was right, but because I wanted to be. I wanted no God. No rules. The easy way out. Over time I guess I started to consider the heavens. How stupid the big bang fraud is. How evolution is a fairy tale for adults and slowly I became fearful for my soul. I was led to the Lord by my cousin Adam and I knew right way that this was where I belonged. Every question I had was answered with a more than satisfactory answer. I questioned the bible's history and geology. A world flood? How ridiculous. Nope. After looking into it. The overwhelming evidence presents a Global Flood as the only possible way the world could look the way it is. And so I set out to show people the door, so that, in their own time and at their own pace, they might enter into the Kingdom of God. I go to a really Catholic school in a country where Catholic and Christian are polar opposites. But I suppose, a doctor dwells with the sick, right? I'm in fifth year. RE isn't that fun any more :/ Everyone knows about my beliefs. I don't I've ever done a 'Peter' and denied Jesus when someone asked "Are you a Protestant? Are you a hun? Why do you hate Jesus?" I have saved my brother and a classmate and many more are interested but are held back by the fear of persecution. Last year I did a presentation on Evolution and was the only one to get 50/50. Many in the class asked me interesting and good hard questions after it. I answered all of them as best I could. Some were easy. Some, I was ignorant of but I was happy that my class showed a massive interest and I am sure that I'd given them, even the teacher, a light of hope that there existed life after death. Me and my cousin are making a ministry based on Answers in Genesis called The Final Authority. We are working on a website and when we leave school and go to bible college we are aspiring to have museums and science centres dedicated to giving God the glory for His Creation.

 

[Anichai]

People r in a a destruction path unless they r touched by the lord. i believe.

Too true.