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Originally posted by fieldsofwind
Posted by strathyboy: "And on a side note, why should you care only for the needs of your friends? Should you love your enemy, or blow him up? I think that's the point people are trying to make here: that loving one's enemy seems to be blatantly contradictory to war."
Loving one's enemies does not mean that one should allow them to rape, pillage, and kill the citizens of one's country or another's country just because they feel like invading. (Or flying planes into buildings, etc.)
Originally posted by fieldsofwind
The perfect example of this is how God loves all (including his angels of the past, I presume!) and yet His justice is very prevalent concerning men and angels. Justice is not absent intertwined with love. You may not understand it, but think of it this way: If I see a man being beaten in an alley, and yet do nothing to stop his attackers with whatever means necessary, then how much do I really care about that victim?
Originally posted by fieldsofwind
Also, those cops should just let the criminals roam the streets because they are suppose to love them, no? See, and I guarantee that the cop that shows up at your door will have a side-arm with him. He won't come with a box of chocolates.
Originally posted by coastie
It's amazing how topics regarding the US government always turn into US vs. Iraq.
Originally posted by strathyboy
My apologies. Since part of this discussion was on the present day, and any draft today would likely be for a war in the middle east, I simply used those as examples to try to demonstrate my point.
The two who served in Europe were both of the opinion that while the British troops were valiant soldiers, Bernard Montgomery was bumbling fool who couldn't fight his way out of a paper sack.
My father had high regard for the Australians in India, but lesser regard for the British.
Considering the state of public education in the United States these days, the average American is unlikely to know that World War II happened.
None. At the time, if you recall, there were only 48 stars.
I submit that battles such as Peleliu, where the United States incurred more than 10,000 casualties in less than two and a half months (on a tiny island 7 miles long and 2 miles wide), Okinawa, where 36 American ships were sunk by kamikazes and 400 more were damaged, and 9,724 U.S. sailors were killed or wounded---while advances on shore were measured in yards per day, say otherwise.
And those war crimes might be...????
Rather than tougher, much, much more lenient. The Treaty of Versailles was a master stroke of stupidity on a gigantic scale. Germany never should have been required to carry the full cost of WWI, and they certanly never should have had the economic retraints placed on them that they did. The resulting hardship virtually guaranteed that the next generation of Germans were more than willing to listen to the first nut who promised to improve their lot---and that nut just happened to be a little Austrian Gefreiter with a funny mustache.
As for America's "negligible contribution" in World War II, we'll have to agree to disagree about that.
Originally posted by chickenman
I don't understand why you'd automatically obey the government of your country if it told you to go and fight for it in a war.
I think every citizen has the right to question whether the war is just or neccessary - i'm not suggesting that war isn't ever neccessary - and I agree that you should help to defend your country - but unquestioning patriotism is a dangerous mindset that hitler exploited to instigate WWII. If you were a german in the 1930s, would you have objected to fighting in the war the german government started?
Many historians have found him to be too cautious and too methodical; the long, drawn-out, costly, and eventually ineffectual Operation Market-Garden in 1944 was Monty's brainchild, and it was not much....oddly, to give him his due, it was the exact opposite of his brilliant campaign at El Alamein. By and large, however, his style of strategic management would have caused more casualties and lengthened the war considerably. That is my opinion, and the opinion of various other historians; your mileage may vary.Monty was loved and respected by his men, and he showed himself to be a cautious, methodical and positively brilliant commander. Historians have found little fault with him, and I certainly have no quarrel with the man.
If Rommel had been given free reign, there is no doubt he would have caused some damage. Hitler (who was almost as poor a strategist as Montgomery) insisted on micro-managing things from Berlin, however, and therein lay his mistake. In my own humble opinion, the most brilliant strategist in the entire war was undoubtably Isoruku Yamamoto; the man was a naval genius, a Japanese Nelson.BTW, just for the record, the man I admire most out of all the WWII commanders, is Rommel. If Hitler had not weakened him by starving him of supplies and equipment, I believe that the Germans would never have lost Africa. In his own theatre, Rommel was arguably the most dangerous man of WWII.
The war, of course, ended in 1945; the United States then consisted of 48 States and ergo 48 stars. The 49th and 50th stars were added in 1960 with the admission of the Territories of Alaska and Hawaii as full-fledged States.Nope, I don't recall. I'm not familiar with the finer points of US history, so you have the clear advantage here. Thanks for the correction.
You're correct. I wrote a rather lengthy paper on this when I was in college. Some pertinent points:Hiroshima & Nagasaki. (But I accept that you don't see them as war crimes.)
Oh, I'm not ired at all. I may disagree with you, but that doesn't mean I'm angry, or anything close to it.But I thank you for the discussion, and I apologise for having roused your ire.
It is the government which grants all of these rights, and it is the government which has the power to repeal any or all of them at its own discretion.
Originally posted by eldermike
The very purpose of the 2'nd amendment.
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