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Seek first the Kingdom of God

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In Matthew 6:33 Jesus teaches that we seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, but there is a sect of Christians calling themselves "saved" or "born again" that claim they are in kingdom of God while the rest are in the kingdom of satan.
My question to these Christians is does this verse apply to them? If they say they are in the kingdom of God this implies they do not need to search it.
 
Originally posted by spiritualscientist
In Matthew 6:33 Jesus teaches that we seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, but there is a sect of Christians calling themselves "saved" or "born again" that claim they are in kingdom of God while the rest are in the kingdom of satan.
My question to these Christians is does this verse apply to them? If they say they are in the kingdom of God this implies they do not need to search it.

If you were told to seek first your relationship with God, would you say that because you already have one you don't need to seek it?  Obviously what is meant is in the way of choices.  So I would say that this verse of course applies to everyone.

 
 
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Originally posted by GlenG
If you were told to seek first your relationship with God, would you say that because you already have one you don't need to seek it?  Obviously what is meant is in the way of choices.  So I would say that this verse of course applies to everyone.

 

What do you mean  "in the way of choices"? Are you one of the "born again" christians?
 
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Originally posted by spiritualscientist
In Matthew 6:33 Jesus teaches that we seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, but there is a sect of Christians calling themselves "saved" or "born again" that claim they are in kingdom of God while the rest are in the kingdom of satan.
My question to these Christians is does this verse apply to them? If they say they are in the kingdom of God this implies they do not need to search it.

We sought and we found! We are in the kingdom of God because the kingdom of God is within us.

Don't just read one verse from that passage, read them all! In fact, read the whole book and it will make sense to you. The kingdom is not something that is coming in the future, it is both in the future and in the here-and-now.
 
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Originally posted by lambslove
We sought and we found! We are in the kingdom of God because the kingdom of God is within us.

Don't just read one verse from that passage, read them all! In fact, read the whole book and it will make sense to you. The kingdom is not something that is coming in the future, it is both in the future and in the here-and-now.

So you are saying that verse is not applicable to you and that you have stopped seraching for the kingdom of God?

And who said the book does not make sense to me? You "born agains" are quick to make baseless conclusions. You should stop thinking that the way you interpret the bible is correct and others are wrong.
 
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I live in the kingdom of God.

And who said the book does not make sense to me? You "born agains" are quick to make baseless conclusions. You only think the way you interpret the bible is correct and others are wrong. Can't you people come out of this narrow minded shell?

You come here with a chip on you shoulder to teach us a lesson about your view of the Bible and you call US narrow-minded? :D
 
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Originally posted by lambslove
I live in the kingdom of God.



You come here with a chip on you shoulder to teach us a lesson about your view of the Bible and you call US narrow-minded? :D

Do you know the meaning of seek the Kingdom of God?

Seek the Kingdom of God is a continous process. It never stops until death.
 
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What's your basis for that belief?

It's not Biblical!

Here's a few of the things the Bible says about the kingdom of God:

"The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel." Mr 1:15

And He said to them, "To you it has been given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God; but to those who are outside, all things come in parables, Mr 4:11 (Jesus certainly thought those people were already in the kigdom of God!)

But when Jesus saw it, He was greatly displeased and said to them, "Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of God. Mr 10:14 (Present tense. Kids are already IN the kingdom of God.)

Now when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, He said to him, "You are not far from the kingdom of God." Mr 12:34 (the kingdom is attainable in this life)

But if I cast out demons with the finger of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. Lu 11:20

And my favorite:
"For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you." Lu 17:21
 
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Originally posted by lambslove
What's your basis for that belief?

It's not Biblical!

Here's a few of the things the Bible says about the kingdom of God:

"The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel." Mr 1:15

And He said to them, "To you it has been given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God; but to those who are outside, all things come in parables, Mr 4:11 (Jesus certainly thought those people were already in the kigdom of God!)

But when Jesus saw it, He was greatly displeased and said to them, "Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of God. Mr 10:14 (Present tense. Kids are already IN the kingdom of God.)

Now when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, He said to him, "You are not far from the kingdom of God." Mr 12:34 (the kingdom is attainable in this life)

But if I cast out demons with the finger of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. Lu 11:20

And my favorite:
"For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you." Lu 17:21

It is also said you must humble yourself like a child to enter the Kingdom of God. When born again go boasting around that they are in the Kingdom of God and the rest are in the kingdom of satan, surely they lack humility. They are also judgemental. It is only God that takes His Kingdom. As long as you are on earth where the ruler is satan you cannot be in the kingdom of God. Your spirit is the only that can enter the kingdom of God. It is not for you to use your physical mind (when writing to me) and using physical things (computer) to tell me you are in the kingdom of God. Obviously thats a lie.

The kingdom of God is a divine place and a place of total humiltiy.
 
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Bless you Now in the WORD of GOD!
Matt. 6: 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

932, Kingdom = royal power, kingship, dominion, rule not to be confused with an actual kingdom but rather the right or authority to rule over a kingdom
a.of the royal power of Jesus as the triumphant Messiah
b.of the royal power and dignity conferred on Christians in the Messiah's kingdom
2.a kingdom, the territory subject to the rule of a king
3.used in the N.T. to refer to the reign of the Messiah
So with these definitions the Understanding for the WORD of GOD would be : Seek you first (to 4413, first in time or place [Before any other thing] the (923, dominion, rule) of (to 3004, Logos, Creator [WORD] and His (1342, holiness, purity) and all (everything) will be added (4369, increased) unto you!
SO if ‘anyone’ Hasn’t sought His HOLINESS and purity for the Living WORD to RULE and reign OVER that ‘anyone’ FIRST then the anyone is NOT seeking FIRST the RULE and reign of GOD and not following His order / instruction for ‘anyone’ to be in His kingdom/ rule. And since that ‘anyone’ has NOT the WORD ruling the life of that ‘anyone’ then they are do NOT have Him as LORD! They are living their ‘own’ lives without the rule of His HOLINESS reigning in their lives, meaning they are NOT yet His and NOT yet ‘saved,’ delivered from His wrath as : For God's wrath and indignation are revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who in their wickedness repress and hinder the truth and make it inoperative. All means ALL not just ‘everyone’ else’s unholiness but ALL ungodliness, all inclusive! Romans 1: 18
SO in Order for anyone to be ‘saved’ or ‘born again’ and they have NOT found His rule via righteousness/ holiness that they are NOT ‘saved’ or ‘born again,’ The FALSE assumption that a person can ‘still walk in the flesh’ as GOD said: So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8: 8
and have Jesus Christ as their LORD/ RULER is a lie, unto themselves and to all ‘they’ proclaim to be Christians to! Unless the WORD rules over ALL of you, thinking and actions than you would NOT be FILLED with the Spirit but only pretending to be FILLED (which means ALL the way filled lacking nothing as the 120 were at Pentecost)
So its examination time!
Please allow the following scripture to examine the word “saved,” We will examine by the WORD!
1. 2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether you be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know you not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except you be reprobates
Now answer me this, does this soul examination versecover your “saved” situation as ‘saved’ the word itself is a present tense claim that can be eternal!
~~~1.The Spirit of Holiness stated:
2. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh (the godless human nature) with its passions and appetites and desires. Galatians 5: 24, TAB
Praise His name and nature by the power of the WORD of GOD I have crucified
( PAST TENSE verb that commutates ‘Have extinguished’) the flesh with its affections and lusts (kjv)

What about this next soul examination verse… Where do you claim “saved” according the written WORD of GOD?
3.But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, you have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. Romans 6: 22
Yes as you noticed the Spirit of Holiness stated: FREE FROM SIN! Then we become servants of GOD (holy service of the WORD) with our fruit unto HOLINESS and the END / Result …everlasting life with Him
Or this soul searching WORD from the Creator of the godly!

The Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:. 2 Peter 2 Yep GOD said rescue/ DELIEVER the godly out of temptation meaning the UNGODLY go into temptation and sin and the godly DO NOT go into temptation unto sin! That’ s what the WORD of GOD said and if there be any other verses that seem to contradict that statement for sin, or to stay in sin, than the translation is muffed and NOT the WORD of GOD which cannot lie and let every man/ woman who does not agree with the truth of His righteousness be silenced forever! First His righteousness for Him to RULE!

If ‘anyone’ does not believe that GOD can made them holy as He is HOLY, than they need to find the REAL WORD of GOD who WILL set you free! Not part free, which is NOT being FREE but still in bondage because my Ruler said: Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, Whosoever who commits sin is the slave of sin. Whosoever means: 3956, individually each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything collectively some of all types EVERYONE who commits sin is a servant of sin!
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