Secularists lay siege to Europe, Italian bishop says

[Electric Skeptic]

The sooner secularists take over Europe and everywhere else, the better.

 

[Voegelin]

The sooner secularists take over Europe and everywhere else, the better.

They had eastern Europe for over 4 decades. Didn't turn out so good.

The secular welfare state in the EU might be OK for some alive today but the majority of those people sure aren't concerned about raising future generations. Parts of the EU are about to experience the greatest population decrease since the Black Death (providing the the pending and current geriatic generations don't import more Muslims and others from outside to care for them).

 

[Electric Skeptic]

They had eastern Europe for over 4 decades. Didn't turn out so good.

The church had all of Europe for centuries. Didn't turn out so good.

 

[stelow]

And I guess this is your argument for not calling priests and the pope, Father? Welp, I guess everyone of us is guilty then for calling our dads, dad.

No everyone does not call their dads Holy Father that name is a direct reference to God.

Catholicism must be satanism because we have a respectful title for our clergy.

With love,
Simon

You said it not me.

 

[Brennin]

Rome, May. 16, 2007 (CWNews.com) . . .Bishop Giuseppe Betori paid homage to St. Ubaldo, a 12th-century bishop who had "fortified the city against a siege." Today, the bishop said, the Christian people face a new challenge, in the form of political forces that are "attempting to storm our cities, undermine their peaceful order, and bring turbulence into their lives." Those forces, he said, are the secularists and nihilists whose efforts undermine respect for the sanctity of life and the bonds of marriage . . .


http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=51176

I agree.

 

[Brennin]

The sooner secularists take over Europe and everywhere else, the better.

Not just no, heck no.

 

[Nithavela]

Europe is already secular, with the exception of the vatican. Church and state are seperated and one does not interefere with the other where it is not really neccessary.

The only major conflict in western europe is motivated by christianity, the North Ireland conflict, so don't tell me that europes peace and stability are endangered by secularism. At least in germany, nobody cares about the religion of our political leaders.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

Europe is already secular, with the exception of the vatican. Church and state are seperated and one does not interefere with the other where it is not really neccessary.

The only major conflict in western europe is motivated by christianity, the North Ireland conflict, so don't tell me that europes peace and stability are endangered by secularism. At least in germany, nobody cares about the religion of our political leaders.

Seconded. Europe is already secularized for all practical means and purposes, and seems to be doing very well. I don't really see the danger.

 

[levi501]

The sooner secularists take over Europe and everywhere else, the better.

... is worth repeating.

 

[levi501]

If you can't support your position rationally without appealing to hocus pocus then your beliefs shouldn't be imposed on others.
That's secularism. To be in favor of anything else is to support a corrupt state.

 

[Futuwwa]

Secularists taking over Europe? Bloody Hell, taking over Europe is what we Muslims are supposed to do

 

[MrGoodBytes]

Secularists taking over Europe? Bloody Hell, taking over Europe is what we Muslims are supposed to do

Let's meet in the middle.

 

[Futuwwa]

Can we have Germany, Germanic Scandinavia and the UK? You'll get the rest

 

[uberd00b]

Europe is already secular, with the exception of the vatican.

Agreed. I can only speak of my personal experience in the UK, but over here there is never any mention of religion in my day to day life. I never meet anyone who is vocal about their beliefs or attends any religious rituals regularly.

When I attended high school some thirteen years ago there were perhaps 2 kids in school who could be described as Christian. This proportion has continued throughout my life.

Religion is a non-issue over here, and we're doing just fine.