Secular Music

[jarshwoo]

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[Angel4Truth]

Do you watch TV? Does everything you watch glorify God? Do you wear clothing that glorifies God and never wear anything just because you like it ? Most musicians ive met play for the love of music itself , not any different than someone who loves taking photos and might become a photographer , etc..

Is everything that you do designed only to glorify God and you do nothing because you happen to enjoy it other than that?

 

[Antoninus Verus]

Music was invented to praise God and over the years man has corrupted it to praise men and worldly things, the desires of the flesh and not the sprit of God.

You know...not everything is purpose driven. Not EVERYTHING in life has to have a purpose behind it. You can live your life in a pragmatic fashion, but thattl be a dull life. Music is to be enjoyed, its not for any specific purpose, music of any kind is for human enjoyment. Allthough I WILL admit, Polka DOES seem like something only the devil himself could concoct

 

[Aaiden]

I've just recently been apart of another thread on this issue. To condem secular music is to condem 90% of our lives. From the clothes we wear, to the food we eat. What we do to glorify God is determined by our path with Him. And that path is different for every person. I drink Coke... not to glorify God but becuase I like it. Heck I drink water... not to glorify God but because I need it. We should thank God for this these but not EVERY aspect of our lives can be used to glorify Him. Morever, music is differnt for everyone. Yes some use it to further themselves, but for some it is intensly spiritual and many "secular" artists are Christian. A good number of them started out in church choirs or as gospel artists. It boggles me to continually see this issue pop up. But I guess I'll have to get used to it

 

[Clem is Me]

There is no question that secular music will send you to hell. No doubt at all. Everyone who loves Jesus will stop listening to it and start praying right now!

 

[Aaiden]

There is no question that secular music will send you to hell. No doubt at all. Everyone who loves Jesus will stop listening to it and start praying right now!

Please tell me that is sarcasm.

 

[Clem is Me]

Not at all. Secular music, secular food, secular textile products. It's all designed to get you to hell. Subtly, sublimely. Inevitably. You don't want to believe it, but it's true.

 

[Aaiden]

And everything you partake in isn't secular? And why are you agnostic? Do you have anything to base your opinion off of? In fact the computer your using right now is secular. By your own words your going to hell.

Thoughts?

 

[Lyric's Dad]

I personally love to listen to Christian music. I also love to listen to country music. I don't see an issue. If what you are listening to is directly contrary to what Jesus says or is blasphemous, I would say you should not but we can partake in things that are not directly Christian in nature and still be in worship of God.

 

[Clem is Me]

Yep. I accept it, though. I doubt God's very existance, so whether or not I am using secular products and living secular lifestyles is moot. If I ever find God then all this garbage will have to go. Grow food in a garden dedicated to God, wear clothing produced by textiles from good Chrsitian industry - if I can find them. If not I would have to suffer the indignity of wearing secular clothing until I can make some with what God provides. I would have to trust that God in his mercy will understand. But I would not seek it out for my own pleasure.

 

[Aaiden]

Yep. I accept it, though. I doubt God's very existance, so whether or not I am using secular products and living secular lifestyles is moot. If I ever find God then all this garbage will have to go. Grow food in a garden dedicated to God, wear clothing produced by textiles from good Chrsitian industry - if I can find them. If not I would have to suffer the indignity of wearing secular clothing until I can make some with what God provides. I would have to trust that God in his mercy will understand. But I would not seek it out for my own pleasure.

Let me get this straight... you say that listening to secular music will send us to hell, however you "doubt God's very existance"? You have discredited yourself and what you say.

 

[xMinionX]

Let me get this straight... you say that listening to secular music will send us to hell, however you "doubt God's very existance"? You have discredited yourself and what you say.

Oh man....

 

[WhoeverLovesGod01]

i see non-secular music for sale in a church (most memorable was "holy hip hop") and that makes me wonder about your 'secular-music-is-for-the-money' theory.

 

[Lokisdottir]

Here are a few terms to ponder.

Moral: Promoting virtue, rightness, goodness.

Immoral: Conflicting with moral behavior; bad, wrong, evil.

Amoral: Having no sense of morality or immorality -- literally, not knowing the difference between right and wrong.

Nonmoral: Falling outside the scope of morality altogether.

Music is nonmoral.

 

[Lokisdottir]

To give a better example (sorry for the double post)...

A car is nonmoral. The act of driving it is nonmoral. However, the car, and the act of driving it, can be used for moral and immoral purposes. (A moral example would be to help someone who's stranded by the side of the road. An immoral example, of course, would be to hit somebody.)

Similarly, music is nonmoral. The act of performing it or listening to it is nonmoral. However, it could be argued that both acts could be used for moral or immoral purposes.

 

[ScottishJohn]

A car can be immoral - I think having a huge car with a massive engine going 6 miles to the gallon, just to take the kids to school and do the shopping is immoral!

Music, well, my own opinion is that it depends what the music means to you. If it becomes the central point of your life - you ignore friends family work and so on in the persuit of music, then perhaps it is a problem, but if you enjoy it, listento it to relax, or eith friends, if you play it for fun, then I think it can be a really positive thing. I'm not sure if this is a serious discussion, but anyway, here is a serious answer!

 

[Clem is Me]

Let me get this straight... you say that listening to secular music will send us to hell, however you "doubt God's very existance"? You have discredited yourself and what you say.

Not at all. Just because I don't believe does not mean I don't understand.

 

[MoodyBlue]

There is no question that secular music will send you to hell. No doubt at all. Everyone who loves Jesus will stop listening to it and start praying right now!

There is just not enough sarcasm in the world.

 

[Clem is Me]

There is just not enough sarcasm in the world.

I dissagree. I believe there is exactly the amount of sarcasm necessary.

 

[12volt_man]

Secular music- not of the church.

If the intent of secular artists is to make money to glorify themselves and not their creator in heaven through music then how is it morally correct?

Music was invented to praise God and over the years man has corrupted it to praise men and worldly things, the desires of the flesh and not the sprit of God.

Lucifer was the top angel in heaven and he was in charge of music and praise. He is obviously behind the history of secular music from the beginning of time. How do you think he will be able to decieve people the most?

I am not here to tell people what to listen to but just asking how secular music is morally correct if it doesn't praise God. If someone sings a happy song that glorifies themselves or something of the world and not the Holy Trinity then how can it be justified as morally correct?

Just a question. I am not here to create strife.

I'm still not sure how you came to the idea that anything "secular" is bad.

How are you defining "secular"?