Secret Knowledge

[Michie]

Conspiracy Theories and Modern Day Gnosticism

The concept of “conspiracy theory” has been thrust to the forefront of our national conversation over the course of the last four years largely due to the presence of a president who demonstrated himself to be extremely susceptible to the influence of what had previously been considered a bit of a freakshow phenomenon restricted to a minority fringe among most Americans. Donald Trump brought the concept to prime time, and in the process exposed a broad vulnerability to conspiracy theory within the American populace and particularly within the conservative Christian church in America. In fact a recent poll found that 15% of Americans (yikes!) and 25% of conservative evangelicals (double yikes!!) currently believe the central tenets of QAnon (15% Of Americans Believe QAnon Theory, Poll Says ). And 15% of Americans currently believe that “true American patriots may have to resort to violence” to save the country. That should scare the bejesus out of anyone who cares about truth and should be yet another high-volume wake-up call to the church that some serious rebuke and correction is direly needed (unfortunately, so many church leaders are caught up at the forefront of this phenomenon that the rebuke and correction may have to come from the grass roots of the church in many cases or simply by lay people of sound mind and heart voting with their feet).

For my part, I care deeply about “true knowledge” whether that knowledge is known to a few or to many. Unfortunately, much of the “secret knowledge” in circulation at any given point in time is false or misleading, such that the possessors of such “secret knowledge” are also purveyors of things that are opposed to truth and reality. As a Christian follower of the One who is “the way, the truth, and the life” and who is “faithful and true”, it is distressing to see so many who profess to follow Jesus so deeply invested in various conspiracy theories to such a degree that it would appear that their commitment to “secret knowledge” takes precedence over their commitment to Christ.

The temptations associated with “secret knowledge” have apparently been present among humans since the very beginning. In the Biblical origin story of the human race and the human fall into sin, Adam and Eve fall prey to this temptation when the serpent (later revealed to be Satan) claims that disobeying God’s command would give access to the “knowledge of good and evil” that God was purportedly withholding unfairly from mankind. The “forbidden fruit” depicted in this ancient story was at least in part the fruit of promised access into the inner circle of Divine knowledge. In the story, Eve notes “that the tree was to be desired to make one wise” in response to Satan’s sales pitch, “God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” From that time of beginnings to the present time, humans of all stripes have ever craved and been drawn to the temptations of having access to “secret knowledge” only known to an elite and favored few. As the old saying goes, “knowledge is power”, and possessing the upper hand of power over and against others has been a principal pursuit of many throughout human history. And of course, we all like to think we know something that nobody else knows — just seems to be an aspect of our nature in the present age that gives each of us some amount of perverse, selfish, prideful pleasure in our supposed superiority.

Continued below.

https://douggee.medium.com/secret-knowledge-15f5fde4a9c2

 

[AlexB23]

Conspiracy Theories and Modern Day Gnosticism

The concept of “conspiracy theory” has been thrust to the forefront of our national conversation over the course of the last four years largely due to the presence of a president who demonstrated himself to be extremely susceptible to the influence of what had previously been considered a bit of a freakshow phenomenon restricted to a minority fringe among most Americans. Donald Trump brought the concept to prime time, and in the process exposed a broad vulnerability to conspiracy theory within the American populace and particularly within the conservative Christian church in America. In fact a recent poll found that 15% of Americans (yikes!) and 25% of conservative evangelicals (double yikes!!) currently believe the central tenets of QAnon (15% Of Americans Believe QAnon Theory, Poll Says ). And 15% of Americans currently believe that “true American patriots may have to resort to violence” to save the country. That should scare the bejesus out of anyone who cares about truth and should be yet another high-volume wake-up call to the church that some serious rebuke and correction is direly needed (unfortunately, so many church leaders are caught up at the forefront of this phenomenon that the rebuke and correction may have to come from the grass roots of the church in many cases or simply by lay people of sound mind and heart voting with their feet).

For my part, I care deeply about “true knowledge” whether that knowledge is known to a few or to many. Unfortunately, much of the “secret knowledge” in circulation at any given point in time is false or misleading, such that the possessors of such “secret knowledge” are also purveyors of things that are opposed to truth and reality. As a Christian follower of the One who is “the way, the truth, and the life” and who is “faithful and true”, it is distressing to see so many who profess to follow Jesus so deeply invested in various conspiracy theories to such a degree that it would appear that their commitment to “secret knowledge” takes precedence over their commitment to Christ.

The temptations associated with “secret knowledge” have apparently been present among humans since the very beginning. In the Biblical origin story of the human race and the human fall into sin, Adam and Eve fall prey to this temptation when the serpent (later revealed to be Satan) claims that disobeying God’s command would give access to the “knowledge of good and evil” that God was purportedly withholding unfairly from mankind. The “forbidden fruit” depicted in this ancient story was at least in part the fruit of promised access into the inner circle of Divine knowledge. In the story, Eve notes “that the tree was to be desired to make one wise” in response to Satan’s sales pitch, “God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” From that time of beginnings to the present time, humans of all stripes have ever craved and been drawn to the temptations of having access to “secret knowledge” only known to an elite and favored few. As the old saying goes, “knowledge is power”, and possessing the upper hand of power over and against others has been a principal pursuit of many throughout human history. And of course, we all like to think we know something that nobody else knows — just seems to be an aspect of our nature in the present age that gives each of us some amount of perverse, selfish, prideful pleasure in our supposed superiority.

Continued below.

https://douggee.medium.com/secret-knowledge-15f5fde4a9c2

Yikes on trikes man. I am surprised that 15% of our country falls for these conspiracy theories. In a hypothetical state of 10 million people (well, Michigan has 10M, as of the 2020 census), that means 1.5 million people in MI would fall for these conspiracy theories. Also, @Michie , I recommend that we both back out of this thread before conspiracy nuts begin attacking our posts.


Here is a summary of the article below, for those who do not have 20 minutes of time:

Doug Gee's article discusses the concept of "conspiracy theory" and its prominent presence in the national conversation over the past four years, specifically under former President Donald Trump's administration. According to Gee, Trump amplified and legitimized conspiracy theories, exposing a significant number of Americans who are susceptible to such beliefs, especially within the conservative Christian church. Gee cites a poll indicating that 15% of Americans and 25% of conservative evangelicals believe in the main tenets of QAnon, a right-wing conspiracy theory. Furthermore, 15% of Americans believe that "true American patriots may have to resort to violence" to protect the nation.

Gee highlights the historical connection between humans and the desire for "secret knowledge," drawing examples from various religions and belief systems, including Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and atheism. Within Christianity, Gee examines the emergence of Gnosticism in the second century AD and traces potential signs of it in earlier writings of St. Paul and St. John. While acknowledging the importance of mysteries in the New Testament, Gee emphasizes that they must be interpreted in the appropriate context.

He proceeds to analyze factors that might increase the likelihood of falling prey to conspiracy theories within Christianity, such as the fascination with symbols and codes in the Book of Revelation, the impact of Hal Lindsey's bestselling book, and the proliferation of speculative end-times scenarios. Additionally, Gee addresses the issue of spiritual warfare and the construction of elaborate narratives involving angels and demons.

External threats to Christianity, such as alleged discoveries of lost gospels and alternative interpretations of the Bible, further fuel suspicion and mistrust towards secular sources, making followers more inclined to accept dubious information if presented by trusted figures within their communities. Anti-science sentiments among Christians, mainly rooted in disagreement surrounding evolution and the age of the Earth, intensify resistance to engaging with intellectual pursuits and hinder acceptance of empirical evidence related to topics like climate change.

Consequently, Christians increasingly gravitate towards isolated groups with shared beliefs, nurturing environments where conspiracy theories flourish. Gee identifies this trend as a contemporary version of "gnostic" heresy and calls for intervention from within the church to help free people from deception. Addressing younger readers, Gee concludes by providing a recommended reading list focused on reconciling science and religion, hoping to encourage deeper exploration of these themes.

 

[Michie]

Thank you Alex.

 

[AlexB23]

Thank you Alex.

You are welcome. Just tryin' to save people time, as a lot of articles get uploaded to CF by many folks here, and not everyone has time to read them.

 

[Michie]

You are welcome. Just tryin' to save people time, as a lot of articles get uploaded to CF by many folks here, and not everyone has time to read them.

Very true. What really gets me though is the comments when they have not read them at all. Lol! Anyway, thanks for the help.

 

[AlexB23]

Very true. What really gets me though is the comments when they have not read them at all. Lol! Anyway, thanks for the help.

Agreed. That is why I am starting to use the politics subforum less and less here, cos nobody reads anymore.

 

[imsaneru]

I have read the article and there are so many different things one could discuss , so where does one start?

 

[imsaneru]

Ok then lets stay with Alex summary , but we need to start at the begining.
I'll be as short as I can with no vids.

As we all know JFK was going after the deep state then BANG! they shot him , fast forward to Ronald Reagan who was next in line to take down the deep state , and BANG! they shot him too but he didn't die , so he just pulled his head in and sat quiet and just did his time.

Fast forward again to Donald Trump , only this time I need to explain some things.
Q is the good guys in the military and was there in the days of JFK , and it was Q/military who asked Trump if he would run for President to help them take down the deep state , he agreed and he became President. His four years as President wasn't wasted , he got the dirt on all the bad guys and they knew it , and have been going after him ever since.

Then of course the pandemic broke out and people began to wake up to what was really going , it became obvious that the MSM was now an arm of the deep state , they set out to destroy Trump and discredit anyone who disagreed with their narrative. They also began to control free speech through platforms like FB ect.
So an online community began along with alternative media where people could speak freely again. Mike Flynn wrote a book on this called fifth generation warfare , you can check it out online.

Any way Trump and his team figured out a way to communicate to his followers without the deep state knowing anything, they began what we know as Q drops , at first people were a little confused but then a couple of fellas figured it out , one is an American ex soldier named Derek Johnson who was able to put it together , you can check him out online too.
Derek had figured out that the Q drop numbers were not dates as some had thought , but were executive orders or some thing like that from the American law of war manual.

What i'm trying to say is , Q is not a crack pot conspiracy or a letter being shown by tin foil hat lunatics , that's just the MSM version of it.
Hope to get into some more of the other stuff later.

 

[imsaneru]

I said that I wouldn't put any vids up but I have to put this one here because it's part of this Secret knowledge thing that I would like to discuss later.
The vid goes for an hour and a half , and its about this man Simon Parkes and his interaction with what he believes are aliens. This man is pro Trump and is part of the online freedom community , he is also good mates with Charlie Ward another pro Trump supporter who claims he's often on the phone to Mike Flynn.

Anyway here is the vid.
New Simon Parkes 2023 Awake

 

[imsaneru]

So if you saw the vid you would have heard him talk about the so called alien offering him secret knowledge which he agreed to.
Anyway this belief in aliens living here and mixing with humans is across the board , and one guy even states that christians are going to have to re write their bible because it's not accurate , and suggests we look up Paul Wallis.

So I looked up Paul Wallis and yeah it looks bad.
Anyway . for me there are two scriptures that come to mind.
The apostle Paul talking about doctrines of demons , and Daniels vision of "They shall mingle themselves with the seed of men".

So when Donald Trump is president again , they say these so called aliens are going to be revealed to us.
Sad part is much of the world will go along with this deception , and why wouldn't they ,cures for cancer , new technology etc.

How much of the christian world will go along with this?.......well it tells you in the bible.

 

[imsaneru]

Looks like it's becoming MS already. Don't forget , Tucker Carlson is also on the Trump team.

Tucker Carlson says UFOs are piloted by 'spiritual entities' with bases 'under the ocean and the ground'​

Fox News vet Tucker Carlson: UFOs are piloted by 'spiritual entities'

 

[imsaneru]

It looks like you Americans have two choices come November.
Don't vote Trump and go into the WEFs NWO and live in fifteen minute cities, eat bugs and become part of their depopulation agenda.
Or vote for Trump and get to hang out with aliens , which we know will actually be demons. Hmmm......choices choices....