Sean Penn's Speech

[SughaNSpice]

I wish I could find the thread that was going on a while ago. It wasn’t my argument, so I can’t remember things exactly, but several Christian posters showed that the word arsenokoites which is translated as homosexual doesn’t mean homosexual as we understand it today, but those who use male prositutes. It condemns as specific homosexual act, but not the orientation or the majotity of relationships. I think we can both agree that prostitution isn’t a good thing.

If I am reading my notes on those posts right it isn’t even about male prostitution. Something about the gender tense of word itself indicates it is good old fashioned male on female prostitution

 

[SughaNSpice]

At the risk of appearing to be anti-same sex marriage I must point out that all rights are voted on. Our Constitution and the Bill of Rights were voted on. Every amendment to the constitution since the Bill of Rights also had to be voted upon. Universally held Rights do not just pop up to be recognized.

The supreme court doesn’t agree with you. They have ruled that the rights of a minority cannot be voted away

 

[KCKID]

No mention of loving monogamous relationships in the Bible except man and woman

And those are pretty few

Does the Bible reference even ONE 'loving' monogamous relationship?

It would appear that the emphasis we of today put on 'love and marriage' was very different some 2000-odd years ago. In fact, that some Christians seem to be so desirous of applying the culture and traditions of those days to we of 2009 is absolutely senseless.

 

[KCKID]

If I am reading my notes on those posts right it isn’t even about male prostitution. Something about the gender tense of word itself indicates it is good old fashioned male on female prostitution

So, the point you are making is that NO ONE appears to be 100% clear as to what certain scriptures are referring to? I agree and this is why I call out those who use such ambiguous texts with such self-righteous authority as to condemn thousands and thousands of innocent people to some equally ambiguous 'eternal punishment'.

Is this REALLY what Christianity is meant to be? I think not.

 

[Beanieboy]

I wish I could find the thread that was going on a while ago. It wasn’t my argument, so I can’t remember things exactly, but several Christian posters showed that the word arsenokoites which is translated as homosexual doesn’t mean homosexual as we understand it today, but those who use male prositutes.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh5.htm
http://www.geocities.com/westhollywood/heights/7608/levit.htm
http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-gay-christian

 

[Beanieboy]

So, the point you are making is that NO ONE appears to be 100% clear as to what certain scriptures are referring to? I agree and this is why I call out those who use such ambiguous texts with such self-righteous authority as to condemn thousands and thousands of innocent people to some equally ambiguous 'eternal punishment'.

Is this REALLY what Christianity is meant to be? I think not.

I think there are a couple of people here that are 100% sure what things mean. Should we consult them?
Magic 8 Ball...?

 

[Belk]

Does the Bible reference even ONE 'loving' monogamous relationship?

It would appear that the emphasis we of today put on 'love and marriage' was very different some 2000-odd years ago. In fact, that some Christians seem to be so desirous of applying the culture and traditions of those days to we of 2009 is absolutely senseless.

I know. It's really hard to resist the temptation to offer them 2 goats for their 12 year old daughter to see how upset they would get.

 

[KCKID]

I know. It's really hard to resist the temptation to offer them 2 goats for their 12 year old daughter to see how upset they would get.

 

[SughaNSpice]

I know. It's really hard to resist the temptation to offer them 2 goats for their 12 year old daughter to see how upset they would get.

12 years old? Isn’t two goats a bit high to be paying for an old maid like that?

 

[Belk]

12 years old? Isn’t two goats a bit high to be paying for an old maid like that?

Well, you have to take inflation into account.

 

[LightHorseman]

For you perhaps, but as you don’t seem to believe the medical and scientific evidence I don’t think it matters for you anyway. For me I don’t need outside Biblical evidence anyway.

He says that now, but I bet he's wearing mixed fibre garments and takes antibiotics when he's sick.