Sda Prop.

[asiyreh]

Hi guys I'm currently engaged in a debate with some right wing SDA's.
I can defend a Sunday position biblically. But I'm a bit lost on the history and church documents. Apparently the Church says she changed the Sabbath to Sunday any truth in this? I have some quotes if anyone interested.

And something about Constantine naming himself a Bishop?

 

[Tallguy88]

The Sabbath has not changed, it's still Saturday. Sunday is the Lord's Day, which we celebrate every week to commemorate His Resurrection, a sort of mini-Easter. Since the Old Covenant is no longer binding/has been superseded by the New Covenant, we are no longer bound to the Sabbath, but to Sunday.

Constantine never made himself a bishop. He wasn't even baptized until he was on his death bed.

Hope that helps.

 

[Rhamiel]

Hi guys I'm currently engaged in a debate with some right wing SDA's.
I can defend a Sunday position biblically. But I'm a bit lost on the history and church documents. Apparently the Church says she changed the Sabbath to Sunday any truth in this? I have some quotes if anyone interested.

And something about Constantine naming himself a Bishop?

the Sabbath thing? yeah kinda

like, from the Early Church on, Christians just decided to get together on Sunday

we can find references from A.D. 150 that says Christians worship on Sunday
their is no clear command to do this in scripture, but it was done by the entire Church from the beginning.

never heard that Constantine named himself a Bishop?

I think the best way to go about this is not to fall into the traps
do not debate persons
Constantine had good and bad to him
debate theology
the teachings of the Church predate Constantine
anything that the SDA would have problems with can be seen long before Constantine

 

[RileyG]

In Acts it always mentioned the disciples coming together to break bread (Celebration of the Eucharist), confess their faults and fellowship on the first day of the week. Agreed- Sabbath= Saturday Lord's Day= Sunday. We are not in the Old covenant anymore because Christ fulfilled the law...

Hope this helps.

ALSO- I will add some pagan traditions were "baptized" by Christians and later used, this is nothing to hide.

 

[Andres88]

I'd suggest you to read St. John Paul II's Dies Domini.

It's always curious to me why Jesus said that He's the master of the sabbath.