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true.Again ... when someone goes outside His Written Word .... they should carefully compare that with it ... this was Ms. Whites continuous belief and stated this many many times ... and is solid biblical advice.
I don't feel bad about debunking your failed accusations either.I don't feel one bit sorry for exposing them or bringing this up.
you're loosing in the polls and the battle of preception. when it matters. preception is influence.I don't feel bad about debunking your failed accusations either.
I see this as a win-win.
Could be "Bent" to say "Jonah was a false prophet" if one took that statement far enough out of context.I found this.
"4. If they do make predictions, they must come to pass as spoken (Jeremiah 28:9; Deuteronomy 18:22)."
A Biblical Guide to Understanding Prophets
There’s no one-size-fits-all description for what every prophet is like or what they’re called to do. Here’s how God can use ordinary people to do powerfulwww.adventist.org
There is a thing or two in the Bible about it Jer 18 -- and no SDA statement opposing Jeremiah 18 - as it turns out.Is there anything on the official website about conditional prophecies? I haven't found anything yet.
Have you looked recently?? as of now it is 50% yes you were debunked and 33% no you were not.you're loosing in the polls
and the battle of preception. when it matters. preception is influence.
It's not everybody else's fault that the people who support Ellen White support her they're not victims it's their fault.
(feel free to edit your statement to make it legible)
BTW -- You are the one with this "all--ellen-white-all-the-time" topic thread , not the SDAs here -- did you forget??
Your thread sure looks "all-ellen-white-all-the-time" to me - and it has your name on it.it stands on it's own. Since this is the first Thread in over 10 years on the topic your statement is baseless.
bob, you have not factored in that you and SB already believers. The poll is not directed to you. We know that you are not going to change your mind so your votes are null. you can nullify my vote if you wish. that would make you behind. those who have never believed are less likely to believe.Have you looked recently?? as of now it is 50% yes you were debunked and 33% no you were not.
you don't believe in Sola scriptura, you believe in Sola scriptura + EGW. You actually believe in EGW + Sola scriptura. Because you consult her to interpret scripture. You can't defend your position without consulting egw.
Now as to the accusation, of having to have a discussion about EG white all the time. This is just false. This is shifting the blame and the responsibility. EG whites claim an additional source of authority but don't tell people that. when we catch them consulting that authority over the Bible they scream that we want to talk about her all the time. That is dishonest. They will get called on that every time. They don't want to play fair Bob, they want a free pass. That is not going to happen. They will play by the same rules as everybody else. And that is that or they will be called on it.
As far as wanting to talk about EG White. I have made it a purpose not to talk about her unless it's brought up or it someone is affecting the text with her. Since EG White'ers bring her up all the time, it may appear to you that l talk to about her all the time. But I don't, it's only when they bring her up.
Except for this weekend, This is the first time I have Actually posted on Ellen White in over a decade.
Actually this information about the frontal lobe of the brain was discovered in the 1800s. A guy working on building one of the canals in New Yoek state was tamping a powder charge down with a steel bar and inadvertently hit it too hard and set off the dynamite. The bar was driven upwards thrpugh the frontal lobe of his brain and when he had physically healed his character had completely changed. He went from being a sober man, a loving husband and devoted father to someone who was addicted to gambling and no longer cared to support his family and an alcoholic who left his family behind and moved to South America and eventually drank himself to death.FAILED accusation #9
#9 MRS. WHITE SAID THAT WE HAVE ANIMAL ORGANS IN OUR BRAINS AND THE WEARING OF WIGS WOULD CAUSE INSANITY
Just as the words "gay" and "nice" have changed their meaning over time - so also the use of the term "animal" is different today than when Ellen White used the term - and we all know it
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She uses the term for basic-biology vs the higher moral powers of the brain. The higher nature.
From: 2014Researchers Find Human Conscience: Part of Brain Differentiating Right and Wrong - LifeNews.com
I have long argued that the difference in humans is moral in nature, not merely biological. But that doesn’t mean that some or all of what makes us unique doesn’t arise out of unique biological differences between us and all other known life. Scientists have apparently discovered a region in the...www.lifenews.com“This is about the brain’s connection to morality. This means that the Oxford scientists, without apparently realising what they’ve done, have located the conscience.“One, it’s called the lateral frontal pole. Two, it’s unique to humans – they ran tests on monkeys in the course of the research at Oxford and, nope, they don’t have it. Three, it’s the size of “a large Brussels sprout”. And four, it’s a leap beyond current scientific knowledge into realms that can only be described as spooky.”
If your argument is that all of your biological brain is confined to the part responsible for morality, conscience , values of right vs wrong - feel free to keep digging that hole deeper.
What leads us to believe that Jonah was a true prophet, using the guidelines on the official SDA website?Could be "Bent" to say "Jonah was a false prophet" if one took that statement far enough out of context.
I guess we all knew that.
Okay, no statement on the official site explaining how to apply conditional prophecies to part 4 of their test.There is a thing or two in the Bible about it Jer 18 -- and no SDA statement opposing Jeremiah 18 - as it turns out.
Sola scriptura testing - and the fact that we accept Jeremiah 18 as inspired writing as it teaches about conditional prophecy.What leads us to believe that Jonah was a true prophet, using the guidelines on the official SDA website?
you clearly are talking about someone else, because I never attended Andrews University. your memory is faulty. You are here to support your buddy. you are just trying to fight. I did attend PUC & Union College. I hoId a degree in SDA Theology. I also have lived in Loma LInda, Collegdale, Keene, & Riverside. I was rasided on Auther Maxwell's, "The Bible Stories" and The "Bible in Living Sound". I can tell you what stripples are, fri chick, Special K loaf and HayStacks are. I can tell you what protecting the "edges of the Sabbath" mean. I can tell you what a Ruskett is.Hmmmm. Seems to me you and I had a discussion about SDA doctrines and you failed miserably. I provided a link to the SDA 28 fundamental beliefs and you failed to copy and paste out of it the proof of your assertions. Now you're back again with more baseless attacks. Then you claimed to have attended Andrews and knew all about SDA beliefs. You have nothing but the same kind of "evidence" this time too. If I was you I'd hang my head in shame at being caught in such obvious lies.
I just voted No in the poll.
I'm understanding the poll question this way:
Do you think that the response (post #3) to the original post (post #1 and the supporting post #2) has debunked the objections to EGW
The reason I voted No is that post #3 doesn't address the prophecy about Jerusalem not being built up, and it appears that prediction did not come come to pass as spoken.
It "appears" that you don't understand "the basics" about your topic "Which is not designed to convert or convince anyone in favor of Ellen White".bob, you have not factored in that you and SB already believers.
bob, simply giving an answer does not mean you have defeated the objection. You have to give a credible response to the objection. you have not. you have only demonstrated that you can rationalize a failuer and that is what everyone sees. it is clear to everyone else bob. The thing is you don't need her. the SDA chruch is 80% right, the other 20 percent that is wrong is locked into place by EGW. Get rid of her and we make the adjustment and never have to deal with this again.Ok --- sounds good.
how about this ( I will add this to one of my page 1 posts)
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Exposing failed accusation #1 in post: #56
Exposing failed accusation #2 in post: #3
Exposing failed accusation #3 in post: #3
Exposing failed accusation #4 in post: #3
Exposing failed accusation #5 in post: #5 #58
Exposing failed accusation #6 in post: #3 #16
Exposing failed accusation #7 in post: #3 #16
Exposing failed accusation #8 in post: #3 #40 – #8 is same as accusation #5 but with more detail
Exposing failed accusation #9 in post: #61
The details are what determine that and those details are available at the links. I am happy with the fact that everyone can read.bob, simply giving an answer does not mean you have defeated the objection.
else bob. The thing is you don't need her. the SDA chruch is 80% right,
Actually this information about the frontal lobe of the brain was discovered in the 1800s. A guy working on building one of the canals in New Yoek state was tamping a powder charge down with a steel bar and inadvertently hit it too hard and set off the dynamite. The bar was driven upwards thrpugh the frontal lobe of his brain and when he had physically healed his character had completely changed. He went from being a sober man, a loving husband and devoted father to someone who was addicted to gambling and no longer cared to support his family and an alcoholic who left his family behind and moved to South America and eventually drank himself to death.
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