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I agree with post #18...The Abraham-Isaac account is fore-shadowing the plan of the TRI-UNE GOD from eternity: the voluntary "substitutionary atonement" of Jesus the God-Man whose Holy blood was shed on a cruel and unjust Cross FOR all sins FOR all men FOR all time.
In the OT, a blood sacrifice was required once a year (yom kippur) to cover the sins of Israel, Isaac's descendants. SEE:Exodus 20
In the NT, Jesus the God-Man voluntarily became the blood sacrifice to bind the NEW COVENANT. His "TRUE MAN" agonized in the Garden of Gethsemane:
Matthew 26
38 ...“My soul is deeply grieved, to the point of death; ...”
Mark 14
35 And He went a little beyond them, and fell to the ground and began to pray
that if it were possible, the hour (of self sacrifice) might pass Him by.
36 And He was saying, “Abba! Father! All things are possible for You;
remove this cup (of death) from Me; yet not what I will, but what You will.”
Luke 22
43 Now an angel from heaven appeared to Him, strengthening Him.
44 And being in agony He was praying very fervently;
and His sweat became like drops of blood, falling down upon the ground.
We must give up what we thought to be the very promise of God, in order to have a greater view of what this promise is as it pertains to us, and our relationship with God.
This idea is so incredible to me, thank you so much for adding it. It's amazing just how short-sighted we can be, isn't it? That even when we think we're looking at what God has promised, we are still looking at it from our selfish point of view. There is no bounds to how hard we must listen, how often we must make sure we aren't swerving off into our own ways, even when those are closer and closer to what God wants.
That was the passage of scripture read in synagogues all over the world yesterday.So, I'm doing a devotional bible study, and I'm reading the passage about how God tells Abraham to sacrifice his son Issac, and then stops him at the last moment.
Had to be. Abraham was about 100 years old when Isaac was born, and this was about 20 years later. Could not a 20 year old young man easily overpower a 120 year old geezer? Even after carrying a huge load of wood for the fire up a mountain?But how do you think Issac felt? Do you think he understood? Abraham did not tell him what would be done. When the boy asked where the animal to be sacrificed was, he told him that the lord would provide. And when that didn't happen, he was bound, and the knife was raised to kill him before God intervened. Do you think he understood? Do you think this act impacted him in any way, or was to work in his heart too?
Isaac is symbolic of Jesus (the Lamb of God) as Abraham is symbolic of God the Father in this event. Just as Jesus was resigned to be a sacrifice, I believe Isaac also had the same trust in Abraham, his father, as Jesus had in God the Father. I don't see Isaac struggling to save himself from being killed. Just as God knew the faith of Abraham, He knew the faith of Isaac, and knew He could use these two to act out this demonstration of faith, that symbolized the sacrifice and provision God would make for the world.So, I'm doing a devotional bible study, and I'm reading the passage about how God tells Abraham to sacrifice his son Issac, and then stops him at the last moment.
I understand the significance to Abraham. He needed to understand his priorities, that even the gifts God gave him could not come before God. He also needed to know and trust that God would still provide, that God would either intervene or bring the boy back. He needed to not fear, even in a moment of likely extreme fear and perceived loss. I get all of that.
But how do you think Issac felt? Do you think he understood? Abraham did not tell him what would be done. When the boy asked where the animal to be sacrificed was, he told him that the lord would provide. And when that didn't happen, he was bound, and the knife was raised to kill him before God intervened. Do you think he understood? Do you think this act impacted him in any way, or was to work in his heart too? I'd like a little more insight on how you think God works in the people who seem to be 'used' in the old testament. Like, the nations overthrown when the Israelites took the Holy Land back, or the places God destroyed, like Sodom and Gomorrah. God is of universal love, but there are people who seem to be hurt or destroyed when God shows his love to another group sometimes. Why is this, or how is God working in the people who seem to be getting the short end of the stick?
Why is this, or how is God working in the people who seem to be getting the short end of the stick?
THis is directly opposed to all Scripture.I agree wholeheartedly. While their life may be done on earth, after they die they still have the chance to repent. So long as they are not stubborn, life is still an option for them
God destroys people when He wants to.
He is also perfectly righteous and just in all that He does. (no "short end" no lack of justice , no unrighteousness at all involved in their due judgment)
What those people who are destroyed think doesn't matter (as written: here one day, gone the next, forever) . They died because of their unbelief. (even some/ multitudes today) are ALREADY dead (though still walking around us) because of their unbelief, and will soon be destroyed. It doesn't matter what they think.
Before creating the world and the universe and any humans,He did not want us to suffer in sin.
a being who destroys wantonly and without regard for mankind is wrong.
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