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If I remember correctly, this was only in circumstances when they couldn't get to the Temple.--i.e., very rare occasions, not every Friday nite binges.
DT 14:22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the LORD your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the LORD your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the LORD your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the LORD will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the LORD your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.
DJ you might want to try some self editing before you post. Go back and read what was said and then decide if your post is appropriate.[/COLOR]
Which translation is this? There is no "fermented drink" in the KJV.
DJ you might want to try some self editing before you post. Go back and read what was said and then decide if your post is appropriate.
Deut 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household, {desireth: Heb. asketh of thee} KJV
Sorry, I thought you might be one of those who thinks that KJV is God's translation, and anything else isn't right.
I personally prefer the RSV, what do you think about that one?
Dr. Bacchiocchi deals with this passage in his book Wine in the Bible (1989!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!): pages 225-234. He states that "shekar" (the Hebrew word) refers to a date beverage, not beer (he cites one of the scholars who worked on the NIV, the ISBE, Cheyne and Black's Encyclopedia Biblica). The English words "sugar" and "cider" are derived from the Hebrew word "shekar." This tells you that the word does not refer to an alcoholic beverage, but to a sugary drink.
djconklin said:Note that none of these verses even implies that it is porper [sic] to engage in the regular consumption of "strong drink" (probably had even less alcohol content than beer) on a regular basis. In fact, some even condemn it. The weight of the evidence shows that one is not to drink "strong drink." One is not to build a case on an anomaly (single verse). This is especially true when one digs even just a little bit and finds out that one is dead wrong!
On these issues of Hebrew... can't we ask a Jew?
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The English term cider in most countries other than the United States refers to an alcoholic beverage. This doesn't support your assertion that the Hebrew word shekar refers to a non-alcoholic drink.
Gill's commentary on Deut. 14:26 says this in regard to "strong drink":or for wine, or for strong drink; to drink with his food, whether wine or any other liquor; the Targum of Jonathan is, wine new or old, which he chose; but the latter, strong drink, Aben Ezra says, was a liquor made of honey and of dates, of wheat and of barley:
These don't provide much of a case for the claim that shekar does not mean alcoholic drink.
Originally Posted by djconklin
Note that none of these verses even implies that it is porper [sic] to engage in the regular consumption of "strong drink" (probably had even less alcohol content than beer) on a regular basis. In fact, some even condemn it. The weight of the evidence shows that one is not to drink "strong drink." One is not to build a case on an anomaly (single verse). This is especially true when one digs even just a little bit and finds out that one is dead wrong!
The weight of the evidence shows that one is not to get drunk on strong drink and that certain people were completely prohibited from indulging in it.
One should not build a case on what one believes is the meaning of a Hebrew word in a single verse (Deut. 14:26) without considering its usage in the rest of the OT.
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