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Scott Peterson Case

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wellab said:
approx 2568 murdered pregnant women in past 5 years.
Lori Hacking and Laci Peterson were but two of them.

Say a prayer for all the murdered, male and female, pregnant and not.
They are all God's children. And a special prayer for the innocent unborn murdered as well.
Stated as a percentage, 1 in 5 pregnant women who diies each year are murdered.
 
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AMDG said:
What concerns me is that there will probably be an appeal right or wrong. From what I heard, the jurors were almost deadlocked UNTIL the judge started dismissing jurors and replacing them, then all of a sudden there's a guilty verdict.

This is speculation on my part but I think the 1st juror that got outsted was an idiot by doing research the judge said was not to be done. I don't know which way she was leaning. The 2nd one ousted was the jury foreman, and I believe he wanted off because he was the one who was causing a hung jury. The two alternates that came in already had a leaning towards guilty, so that is why the deliberations on Friday were so short.

Again this is my speculation based on what I heard this week.
 
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marciadietrich said:
Disturbing stat wellab ... but sometimes we need to know these things to have an idea of what is happening to real people. The abortion statistics are so high they are nearly beyond comprehension.
Yes, you are right. Abortion kills more people than murder & the Iraq war combined. However, small however, the statistics on abortion show that the incidence is actually shrinking. Not by much, but little by little, fewer each day. That is a good thing.
 
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LADY DI said:
In light of what you all have been talking about--I remember the Defence trying to convince the jury that the baby was born after she died and therefore he was not responsible for his death. The Defence had a very weak case and was never able to prove that he didn't do it.
Yep, if the baby was born later, then she was alive because he was under surveillance.

But this I don't understand: if it's first degree murder for his wife, how could it not be for his son? Murdering his wife was going to cause the murder of his son unless he took care to make sure his son would live by doing a c-section and then he'd have to take him somewhere where his son could be taken care of.:confused:
 
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wellab said:
You are speaking of the Lori Hacking murder case.
Here's updates to that case.
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595080159,00.html
Thanks,I feel bad--my mind went blank, I couldn't remember her name.

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What I found eerie is that I was pleased he was found guilty, but at the same time I was upset because he has never shown any remorse for this. I mean he dyed his hair, sold a vehicle, put the house up for sale, and now I hear he tossed out the wedding photos. My goodness, this man is crazy. And cannot say anything better about his mistress, Amber Frey.
I was shocked he got 1st degree in the murder of his wife.
I don't understand why he didn't get 1st degree in the murder of his unborn son. If he meant to kill her, he meant to kill his son, he knew she was pregnant. What an oddity.
Well. according to Scott Peterson, he believed that it was actually Satanist who killed Laci and when they found out where he was on the day she disapeared--well they dumped her body where he was fishing--so he ( Scott ) would be the one the police would go after. That's goes to show you how crazy he really is--who would believe a story like that???
 
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onesheep said:
Yep, if the baby was born later, then she was alive because he was under surveillance.

But this I don't understand: if it's first degree murder for his wife, how could it not be for his son? Murdering his wife was going to cause the murder of his son unless he took care to make sure his son would live by doing a c-section and then he'd have to take him somewhere where his son could be taken care of.:confused:
It's because of intent- his target was his wife and she just so happened to be pregnant so the baby dies too but I think the evidence showed that his intent was to equally get rid of them both, not just her.

But just a note- the defense never has to prove anyone did the crime; they only have to prove reasonable doubt. That is why his attorney was throwing out the most ridiculous scenarios trying to create doubt in at least one jurors mind. The age of the baby fell apart because of his own expert witness not being able to say that the baby was indeed full term.
 
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Shelb5 said:
It's because of intent- his target was his wife and she just so happened to be pregnant so the baby dies too but I think the evidence showed that his intent was to equally get rid of them both, not just her.
Well that was my point. His intent was to do away with the baby as well. Otherwise he would have either waited until she had the baby or done something to try and save the baby. He did neither so his intent was clearly to kill his son as well.

I guess I didn't make myself clear. :blush:
 
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I am grateful that they passed the "Unborn Victims of Violence" act. I think anyone committing a partial birth abortion should be charged under the statute immediately. After all, those babies are at the same point in their development- what makes it any different?

Premature babies can survive at younger & younger gestational ages. When will our society wake up and protect infants who are viable?

Life begins at conception. Personally, I'd like to see all abortions made illegal with the only exception being to save the life of the mother. I know that a lot of people disagree with my view, but I am FLOORED that anyone could sanction the killing of a child once they are viable. You can't say the baby isn't alive, so HOW is that anything but murder?

It makes me so sad...
 
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