Scooter Libby Has Sentence Commuted

[Ginny]

run for your liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiives.

It's Rodney King all over again.

 

[nightflight]

I just wonder how many more hits the American people can take before a revolt occurs?

Wasn't last November's election supposed to be the "revolt"?

 

[Arnold_Philips]

Well, Bush does love his criminal pals.

 

[MachZer0]

Even if they don't shut up, I will never understand how people cannot differentiate lying about a bj versus lying about national security.

Actually, the law can't make that differentiation either

 

[MachZer0]

Once again, Bush has demonstrated that he has the courage to do not that which is popular, but that which is right.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

Wasn't last November's election supposed to be the "revolt"?

No - it was a sound rejection of a failed president's failed policies.

revolution.

It's the astounding hypocrisy and arrogance of the whole administration that make me think people will probably not tolerate too much more from him. People might start taking it to the streets.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

Once again, Bush has demonstrated that he has the courage to do not that which is popular, but that which is right.

Oh - it must logically follow, in your mind, that the impeachment against President Clinton, while popular, was wrong.

Thank you!

 

[nightflight]

No - it was a sound rejection of a failed president's failed policies.

revolution.

It's the astounding hypocrisy and arrogance of the whole administration that make me think people will probably not tolerate too much more from him. People might start taking it to the streets.

Yes, I can see it now! A sea of pony-tails and earrings, even on some of the girls!

 

[ChaliceThunder]

Yes, I can see it now! A sea of pony-tails and earrings, even on some of the girls!

I'm talking about the over 60% of this nation who have had it with Bush and his war...which is exactly WHAT this whole case involves.

 

[oldbetang]

Well at least people will have to shut up now about Clinton lying under oath. Right?

Well, we were told that lying under oath is no big deal.

 

[JoyJuice]

Well, we were told that lying under oath is no big deal.

Actually it is a big deal, but the contexts in which the lies were spun are night and day given Clinton and Libby.

It's a head scratcher when the "rule of law" and "national security ' crowd goes wild when a perjurer who had a direct hand in outing an agent who was on the front lines of our national security is given a pass.

 

[oldbetang]

Actually it is a big deal, but the contexts in which the lies were spun are night and day given Clinton and Libby.

It's a head scratcher when the "rule of law" and "national security ' crowd goes wild when a perjurer who had a direct hand in outing an agent who was on the front lines of our national security is given a pass.

You seem to be confused. Libby never had a hand in outing an agent. The individual responsible for outing Plame was Richard Armitage. Libby was never even accused of being the leaker.

BTW, it is interesting to note that you don't consider sexual harrassment to be a big deal.

 

[JoyJuice]

You seem to be confused. Libby never had a hand in outing an agent. The individual responsible for outing Plame was Richard Armitage. Libby was never even accused of being the leaker.

Well no, not confused at all. In fact it is noted and well known that he did in fact leak to Judy Miller. Who leaked first is actually quite irrelevant. Just because a first person leaked does not excuse subsequent leaks.

BTW, it is interesting to note that you don't consider sexual harrassment to be a big deal.

In fact I do, but actually he lied about his tryst with Monica which in reality had nothing to do with the sexual harrassment case.

 

[oldbetang]

Well no, not confused at all. In fact it is noted and well known that he did in fact leak to Judy Miller.

If that is the case then why was he never charged?

In fact I do, but actually he lied about his tryst with Monica which in reality had nothing to do with the sexual harrassment case.

Clinton lied in a deposition he made [SIZE=-1]in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit against him. That is the reality. You can't spin that away.
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[MachZer0]

You seem to be confused. Libby never had a hand in outing an agent. The individual responsible for outing Plame was Richard Armitage. Libby was never even accused of being the leaker.

More importantly, Armitrage was never charged with the leak because it cannot be established that a crime was committed.

 

[JoyJuice]

If that is the case then why was he never charged?

You know, I just can't believe this question is constantly asked, answered, but yet asked again. I am going to say this one more time. As Fitzy pointed out with his intentional throwing at the batter example, the law here expressly says that the leaker has to have the intent of specifically knowing and purposely outing the agent which is a very hard criterian to prove. It is clear with the Whitehouse cold calling reporters to discredit Wilson by mention of his wife, it simply wasn't an accident by one individual. There was clear collusion that's why it neve stopped with Armitage, that's why Fitzy said there's a cloud over the office of President Cheney. So that is why he never charged anyone because as he pointed out with all the lying going on, it was hard to make that case. So he chose not to file charges.

Clinton lied in a deposition he made [SIZE=-1]in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit against him. That is the reality. You can't spin that away.[/SIZE]

Okay

 

[Flashlight]

I think this is great news and a start to hopefully being fully exonerated for this supposed crime. To my unlawyered mind freedom of speech means exactly that. We have the right to lie and obstruct investigations by our words.

 

[JoyJuice]

I think this is great news and a start to hopefully being fully exonerated for this supposed crime. To my unlawyered mind freedom of speech means exactly that. We have the right to lie and obstruct investigations by our words.

 

[Smileyill]

I'd guess Bush didn't really want to, but the pressure got to him. Maybe they threatened to reveal some of the crimes he committed. As for not giving a full pardon, well if I remember correctly, that means Libby may still appeal. Though I doubt the SC will touch this case.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Bush is just testing the waters. The full pardon will come later.

Then comes the issue of whether Scooter would accept the pardon, and the admission of guilt that comes with it.